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Big Green

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I mean by the strictest definition STS is also 'non-commercial' since every dime DC gets are donations. He isn't selling the game after all. So let's say the VH remake people start accepting donations to help them support to make said remake, but the game will still be free, then they wouldn't really be any different.
Nah, they have some kind of a law against it xdd. A lot of people asked them how to donate and they always refuse. Actually the guy that made violated princess was working on vh initialy, but then he got greedy and wanted to cash out, but other guys refused and kicked him out lol.

So yeah the difference is big between them and DC. One wants to milk to infinity having a patreon page and other donation sites, and vh devs don't. Still both are having abysmal production speed that's for sure.
 
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PayneToTheMax

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Nah, they have some kind of a law against it xdd. A lot of people asked them how to donate and they always refuse. Actually the guy that made violated princess was working on vh initialy, but then he got greedy and wanted to cash out, but other guys refused and kicked him out lol.

So yeah the difference is big between them and DC. One wants to milk to infinity having a patreon page and other donation sites, and vh devs don't. Still both are having abysmal production speed that's for sure.
Well, not like Violated Heroine would really fly on Patreon anyway. With all the monster and regular rape, as well as shotacon content.

At the very least, both VH and STS aren't Innocent Witches. So they got that going for themselves. They actually have some proper content.
 
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Count Morado

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What to do if the difficulty switch doesn't work?
There is no "difficulty switch."

If you mean you can only choose one mode to start the game - "preview" mode - for v21.0.0, that is because the minigames and the stats part of the tech update hasn't been migrated at this time. Hence, if you played without preview mode, you would not be able to advance because skills and money wouldn't be available.
 

rivers77

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If you happened to watch the stream today, does anyone know what the story is of the Debbie scene DC was drawing? I know the old art scene was used as the change angle for the H scene in Debbie's bed during the day and the same exact art was used for the change angle for the H scene in the MC's bed at night. Is this new art going to be used for both scenes again? Just in the Debbie's bed? Just in the MC bed at night? Personally, I think this was the worst art for Debbie's H scenes, because this change angle didn't match the scene in either instance. It was one of the things I was really hoping would be fixed when the artwork was updated. I appreciate any info anyone has.
 
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RoughlySpecific

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he has currently 30.038 subs on Patreon but there is 1$ option which i believe 95% of his subs use. It's still an insane income to get roughly 30k a month just by half-heartedly pushing erotic artwork out there that hasn't changed for years.
+30k$ a month doing so.
Before that information was made private, he made ~70k each month, as I recall. It is an enormous pile of money. Most of a million Dollars every year, for several years.
 

ScrewMe

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if people would have stopped donating, he would have abandoned the game already. This is his income now. He doesnt work. This is his work. So on one side he probably is scared to finish the game because he fears that his source of income might stop in the future.
But somehow he is fine with a disgruntled fanbase that just throws him a dollar a piece and then slow-releases a "game cleanup" instead of new content.
By the pace he is going right now, he finishes that "clean up" by 2026....only the cleanup. and you can cry all you want, because he earns +30k$ a month doing so. Why people are supporting this, is crazy. NLT gaming is actually pushing out their 4th game already. This guy is working on the same game since 2016.
And that is my issue with SS. It came out long before most people in here even knew of F95Zone existence.
Why not finish the project that you've grown tired from and try something new? Come on, don't tell me that in 7+ years you haven't had any concept for the new game glowing in your head.
You don't want to make as much work from the scratch as you did? Okay, get yourself a team of a few people. You make 30k a month - most of peeps in here would love to work for you for 1-2k max, not even asking for "I want % of that Patreon revenue".

That's my issues with some of the games and developers. They just stay in the safe lane of old project and keep dragging it on. That ends up with people being disappointed and sooner or later you start losing them.

Like, come on, man. You've already made it. Time to move on and push yourself to go one step up.

EDIT: ALSO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SCENES WITH PRINCIPAL SMITH FOR YEARS! To never get them...:(
 
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ZeeKun77

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Haven't played anything since ToN, but what's gotten worse? Was curious to play.
He literally took 8 years and said he was gonna fix all the errors and bugs and change source code, after that suddenly he posted an update which to our surprise cuts 80% of the games content and he says he will post a little bit of content that was already there in the game which he deleted in the new update and will repost it in the new source code, sounds like scam right he has over 30000 people in his patreon with lowest subscription being 1 dollars most of the people there pay more than 6 or 7 dollars to see horny art so he is milking this...
 
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PayneToTheMax

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He literally took 8 years and said he was gonna fix all the errors and bugs and change source code, after that suddenly he posted an update which to our surprise cuts 80% of the games content and he says he will post a little bit of content that was already there in the game which he deleted in the new update and will repost it in the new source code, sounds like scam right he has over 30000 people in his patreon with lowest subscription being 1 dollars most of the people there pay more than 6 or 7 dollars to see horny art so he is milking this...
Wrong dev. He was asking about NLT getting worse.

Haven't played anything since ToN, but what's gotten worse? Was curious to play.
Genesis Order's characters regularly hold the idiot ball for example. Also, and I know this sounds weird on a porn board, but there's legit too many sex scenes in it. ToN was already starting to be a problem there (which didn't really help with the majority of its cast being horribly one note compared to Lust Epidemic) so Genesis Order following along wasn't a good decision, especially since the game also wants to tell a plot and be a, well, adventure game. No idea about the new game, but I'm assuming it's not that much better.
 
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