Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[SuA]

The problem is that many people seem to be unwilling to actually analyze what's going on. Complaining is fine but complaining without background is just pretty much useless. Those who follow DC see that he's not slacking around and if we don't want the game to look as bad as several "clones"/some other drawn games or lose consistency and animation quality it should be possible to accept the fact that more money won't help UNTIL DC actually finds someone who can solve that problem and is able to almost clone what he himself does.

There's quite a bit of very valid critisism which can be adressed, like save incompatibily which really has to (and now will) be fixed rather soon given the budget and other comfortfeatures like a gallery/smaller filesizes/less time needed for coding/posing after the art is done etc.

But just saying "he makes way more money that's why development has to get way faster aswell" just doesn't work with a drawn game. That's like saying to a painter or sculptor who already works fulltime to double or triple his speed - it's not going to work and can't happen.

Isn't that what people are saying though? He is making way too much money every month but the production speed is super slow because the limiting factor is the art. Which is exactly why he needs to hire 1 or 2 more guys helping him to draw background and scene which is a big part of this kind of game. DC only needs to draw people and that will increase the speed by 4x or even 5x.

 

[j4yj4m]

Which is exactly why he needs to hire 1 or 2 more guys helping him to draw background and scene which is a big part of this kind of game. DC only needs to draw people and that will increase the speed by 4x or even 5x.

Well, I'm actually pretty sure that's not going to work that easy. The backgrounds/items/etc. do have a unique style aswell and are often made during streams so the community can influence them and be creative - it would be sad to lose those inputs. The problem is indeed that it's not just "one or two guys" but at least one artist who has to be highly skilled and very creative and whom he has to trust. If he has to make detailed sketches for that guy and change small things he doesn't like afterwards the time saved will be very minimal. At least I can fully undestand that he doesn't want to tarnish his own project by introducing anything he doesn't like.

Edit: It's possible that I'm oversensitive but I personally really couldn't tolerate different art styles in the game at all.

 

[jaques]

Isn't that what people are saying though? He is making way too much money every month but the production speed is super slow because the limiting factor is the art. Which is exactly why he needs to hire 1 or 2 more guys helping him to draw background and scene which is a big part of this kind of game. DC only needs to draw people and that will increase the speed by 4x or even 5x.

DC has been looking around for a new artist for at least the last half year. None has come forth that can match the style necessary and reach the quality standard that has been set.

 

[pro-digi]

If i remember correctly the fishing rod is in the attic of your house(Needs the stool and the key on the entrance of the house), and the cemetery can be accessed from your aunt's backyard.

ok solved. thanks

 

[Bahamut Zero]

Isn't that what people are saying though? He is making way too much money every month but the production speed is super slow because the limiting factor is the art. Which is exactly why he needs to hire 1 or 2 more guys helping him to draw background and scene which is a big part of this kind of game. DC only needs to draw people and that will increase the speed by 4x or even 5x.

It is easy to say with one or two people it would become faster. But it really is not like that. And is also hard to explain.
Because the other two who come to help him, do not know how DC wanna is artwork.
Who i mean. DC already know what happens in his mind. In other words, he already has a vision of how his story on paper must be drawn. Although he explains in words how a scene should be, surely neither could draw it as he would. That is one thing is how it draws DC is one thing is how it would be drawn right with explanations. It is difficult to explain what it is.

if I knew how to draw it would bother me, have to settle for a design made by others, only based on explanations. Imagine DC that explains this is the school, this and the scene and another must then draw it in its place. Surely it would not be the same thing.

Sorry for me bad english, i hope I have explained the thing well. Because the thing is really complicated.

Anyway i really hope that some good and great modder here at last do a incest patch. because play the game without it, is really stupid. And the excitement go really down. The 80% of the excitement is about incest for me, so...

 

[Decent Wanker]

What does CG mean guys ? Can someone explain that please ? (CG >>

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[j4yj4m]

What does CG mean guys ? Can someone explain that please ?

CG means "computer graphics" so it's basically just all the images, scenes etc. from the game in case someone wants to see them without playing.

 

[N7]

DarkCookie is now live

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[Sir_EatsALot]

Whether a 3 months+ wait is worth it or not will be determined by the content in the next update. Personally I like a consistent update than a longer wait wait time for a little more content. But that's just me.

 

[Ungawa]

did you see me complain about patreon or any other thing besides DC himself?? whos the one whos trying to start a flame here?? yeah at least me im paying him 20$ a month so im gonna speak up my mind

Darlin' you're precious...

You think in 536 pages you're the first one to criticize the production values?

Go back a page and look what I posted. If you look back in those 70+ pages, you realize the cyclical pattern of this forum where people go into a post about one part of a topic until it's exhausted then go in another direction until that's exhausted. Which was the point. It wasn't about you, just me pointing out that the circle of Summertime Saga begins anew with your post.


Anyway, something I was going to comment on was the fact that we have a cyclical turnover in the forums which has us repeating a LOT of the same topics over and over again. To put it bluntly, we're stewing. Not going anywhere, we're just mulling over the same topics with no depth and dearth to what's in here. Sure, I'd LOVE to talk about the story and specumalate on some of the relationships but when you've had to answer how to find Jenny's cheerleader outfit for the 1300th time, it's hard to have some discussions.

So I'm kinda proposing something to somewhat alleviate this.

SS needs a FAQ. 1 page, 1 post, Frequently Asked Questions. Stickied at the top. Closed off for discussion so people can see what's been said before.

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recently, I began to notice that every two pages, the same topics repeated. Mods came in every 3-5 pages to throw up the warnings but a new influx of people undermine that.

So we basically should create an FAQ that answers most of the generic questions which can help to alleviate most of this.

What do you all think?

 

[Sandmaster]

well, so long as we ain't looking for volunteers! I'm down with this plan?

also I'm interested in the science teachers room. what odd experiments will those machines hold? Body Modification perhaps? or even Brainwashing? a Jekyll and Hyde kinda thing? random bimbomorphosis? or flip side, penis milking? temp gender flip? WHOOOO KNOOOOOWS!?!?!?!?

but for realsies, what do you folks think? (or hope for?)

 

[Laziness]

well, so long as we ain't looking for volunteers! I'm down with this plan?

also I'm interested in the science teachers room. what odd experiments will those machines hold? Body Modification perhaps? or even Brainwashing? a Jekyll and Hyde kinda thing? random bimbomorphosis? or flip side, penis milking? temp gender flip? WHOOOO KNOOOOOWS!?!?!?!?

but for realsies, what do you folks think? (or hope for?)

I'll place my expectations on something boring like brewing an aphrodisiac. It'll make what actually happens more enjoyable.

 

[J0eBl4k3]

I'm interested in the science teachers room. what odd experiments will those machines hold? Body Modification perhaps? or even Brainwashing? a Jekyll and Hyde kinda thing? random bimbomorphosis? or flip side, penis milking? temp gender flip? WHOOOO KNOOOOOWS!?!?!?!?

but for realsies, what do you folks think? (or hope for?)

- brewing a potion to increase stat?
- brewing aphrodisiac and inject it in central ac( same place as smuggling camera mission) or sneaked it into food @cafetaria (with the help of bro erik),
... too much possibility

 

[Ferghus]

We need a potion that gives everything butts and boobs, you know, to make everything gropable and fuckable. Even the mailbox! Fuckin' butts and boobs everywhere!

I'll see myself out

 

[DangerDeen]

Hopefully DC can just introduce more groupsex like gangbangs or threesomes with one of the teachers or Eric's mom. Eric's mom can work because she is always working out at the gym so the friend you have to help lift weights, the swole dude next to him, Eric is you can convince him to leave his video games, and the mc can be included in a never before seen gym locker room or in the same yoga room. Or if you want it to be at his house you can invite the same friend from the gym to play "poker" with Eric and Ms. Johnson and after the game and the drinking they have sex in the den. I have another idea about MC and some other guy friends having sex with a teacher for the underground cult update. Maybe the gym coach if he displays his strength and stamina at a repeatable gym event and based on what place you came in thats the position you have sex with her. For first place you have whatever choice you want, second is like anal, third is a bj, and last place is a handjob all at the same time. But I dont know if DC can do that with all the patreon shit since Eric and Ms. Johnson is incest and he is already dealing with it but it would be a cool concept for any more group sex that he wants to include in his game. This is just a suggestion and Im not saying that he has to do this but it is just an idea I have been thinking about for a while.

 

[niskaru]

all the incest scenes will be removed in v15.0, is that true?

 

[thestickman]

all the incest scenes will be removed in v15.0, is that true?

More likely that they will do what all other Patreon games have done and rename the characters/relationships so as to not make them related. (Landlady, exchange student, neighbor, that kind of crap.) I doubt anything will be straight-up removed... but I suppose we won't know for sure until it's out.

 

[j4yj4m]

I doubt anything will be straight-up removed... but I suppose we won't know for sure until it's out.

You are right, DC already said on stream that basically only dialogs will be changed. So nothing will be lost.

 

[PatreonTed]

Oooooooh, three coding tasks completed, overall % jumped to 64%.

 

[escachifu]

With the new changes the update 15.5 with the sister rework is still happening?