Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5595] [Kompas Productions]

[BobBoober]

DC has become a lazy shithole, milking and lying all the time..

PayneToTheMax said:
Been advocating that for roughly a year. It's not like anything of substance happens in these threads anyway.

Do you think things will move faster then? Could it be that you hit your head against a concrete pillar during your last bullettime jump?
So you and your sunflower friend are by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on the forum.

DC did nothing for 3 years, only with the Abandoned tag did he get his arse back in gear (and yes yes I know DC doesn't give a shit about the website... bullshit) now he makes alibi updates every 2 months, but you can see that 3 years before nothing but really nothing happened. Wishing this thread would be frozen can only be because you profit from the scam in some way.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

DC has become a lazy shithole, milking and lying all the time..



Do you think things will move faster then? Could it be that you hit your head against a concrete pillar during your last bullettime jump?
So you and your sunflower friend are by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on the forum.

DC did nothing for 3 years, only with the Abandoned tag did he get his arse back in gear (and yes yes I know DC doesn't give a shit about the website... bullshit) now he makes alibi updates every 2 months, but you can see that 3 years before nothing but really nothing happened. Wishing this thread would be frozen can only be because you profit from the scam in some way.

Case in point right there, lol.

No, I actually expect for interest to die down if this place gets locked and nobody talks about the game anymore. Maybe the game even ceases to exist like Queen Mebd in that one Merlin movie where people just choose to forget her. Poof and gone. Wouldn't that be nice?

You guys are the ones actually keeping the game alive, and you do it for fucking free lol.

 

[BobBoober]

Case in point right there, lol.

No, I actually expect for interest to die down if this place gets locked and nobody talks about the game anymore. Maybe the game even ceases to exist like Queen Mebd in that one Merlin movie where people just choose to forget her. Poof and gone. Wouldn't that be nice?

You guys are the ones actually keeping the game alive, and you do it for fucking free lol.

This can only come from someone who has never donated a penny to a developer..

 

[josh963]

Next update will show us little progress on Debbie’s route! Mark my words, Debbie s route only will be finished after half of the year, giving DC about a year of delay on the developing and the delivery of the tech update! On the past, DC occasionaly published on one update only his characters previous routes that usually was takes about 3 montes between the updates! Evidentes Debbie s new route is just a pretext to give him even more time

 

[PayneToTheMax]

This can only come from someone who has never donated a penny to a developer.

Almost like this is an online piracy forum, right? :^)

 

[BobBoober]

Almost like this is an online piracy forum, right? :^)

That's right. here you can find the most porn games in one place. If you like something, fell free to support them anyway.
Being a Pirate dont means that you have to "steal" all the time. And iam one who has suporrted him for years, so iam in a position to complain anytime i want in a forum dedicated to that SCAM.
I'm annoyed and vent here about a scamming developer, that's what a forum is usually for.

You, on the other hand, are in this thread for what reason exactly?

 

[PayneToTheMax]

That's right. here you can find the most porn games in one place. If you like something, fell free to support them anyway.
Being a Pirate dont means that you have to "steal" all the time. And iam one who has suporrted him for years, so iam in a position to complain anytime i want in a forum dedicated to that SCAM.
I'm annoyed and vent here about a scamming developer, that's what a forum is usually for.

You, on the other hand, are in this thread for what reason exactly?

To get games for free, genius. Like the majority of people that have an account here. Are you somehow trying to make yourself out to be some sort of "superior user" whose voice is worth more because he paid a developer in the past?

 

[BobBoober]

To get games for free, genius. Like the majority of people that have an account here. Are you somehow trying to make yourself out to be some sort of "superior user" whose voice is worth more because he paid a developer in the past?

Sure not, I am not the one who takes the liberty to claim, that it would be better to close this thread and archive it.
But the one who is upset that a game doesn't seem to become what he was promised 7-2 years ago as a supporter has imho an understandable reason to vent in this thread. While the one who is only looking for free games has what reason exactly to wish this thread to be closed?

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Sure not, I am not the one who takes the liberty to claim, that it would be better to close this thread and archive it.
But the one who is upset that a game doesn't seem to become what he was promised 7-2 years ago as a supporter has imho an understandable reason to vent in this thread. While the one who is only looking for free games has what reason exactly to wish this thread to be closed?

My argument that closing and dusting the thread would probably do more harm to do DC is working under the logic (which many of the people against him share btw) that this very thread has influence over the development. So should the thread get locked, and not constantly bumped up to first page, that logic would dictate that DC would slowly be bereft of support. Since lack of exposure = less people jump on the ship.

Of course if you're of the opinion that the thread here means basically squat in the grand scheme of the development (a very hot take) then closing it will of course do nothing...but neither does keeping it around, since it doesn't really matter, eh?

 

[wetjuicywetjuicywetjuicy]

It'd be cool if the thread got locked down and tagged as abandoned. Because the game is dead, and its corpse is being puppeted around. It's stupid. Anyone who says stripping out 90% of the content to "remake" it over the course of 5-8 years isn't actionable is full of shit. This site isn't the biggest thing, but it outright stating "nah, this game is abandoned" even if it doesn't meet the most stick-up-the-ass technical definition of it would impact a lot of people. They'd consider the game dead. Is that fair? Who fucking cares, man. Hypothetically let's say it has this massive impact, and it dries up funding for this game, and it dies. Good. This whole thing is embarrassing.

Porn games get more leeway for their unprofessional, stupid dev behavior than the biggest, most predatory AAA game publisher. You don't have to be a programmer or software engineer to know that there's no reason this kind of game takes this long. Even starting from scratch shouldnt' take this long. There's barely any player reactivity or branching paths, which are the biggest consideration when it comes to visual novels. There's a couple inventory management events, and a few timed minigames, that's it. Especially since this is in Ren'Py. It was made with the express purpose of streamlining making this kind of game. The way people talk ~the code~, you'd think it was a complex physics engine or intricate hero shooter with multiple systems all working off each other in a delicate ballet. It's Ren'Py text and images. The most complex stuff is making sure a few events dont' trigger out of order, and that's a basic flowchart. This is not Baldur's Gate 3, it's Summertime Saga. I've seen what goes into a Ren'Py game. Their complexity has never justified almost a decades worth of development time.

This is taking longer than Red Dead Redemption 2. It's on track to being worse than Duke Nukem Forever. Fuck it, bring it out back and put a bullet in it. Maybe Dark Cookie will get the message and finally shit or get off the pot.

 

[gam2000]

It'd be cool if the thread got locked down and tagged as abandoned. Because the game is dead, and its corpse is being puppeted around. It's stupid. Anyone who says stripping out 90% of the content to "remake" it over the course of 5-8 years isn't actionable is full of shit. This site isn't the biggest thing, but it outright stating "nah, this game is abandoned" even if it doesn't meet the most stick-up-the-ass technical definition of it would impact a lot of people. They'd consider the game dead. Is that fair? Who fucking cares, man. Hypothetically let's say it has this massive impact, and it dries up funding for this game, and it dies. Good. This whole thing is embarrassing.

Porn games get more leeway for their unprofessional, stupid dev behavior than the biggest, most predatory AAA game publisher. You don't have to be a programmer or software engineer to know that there's no reason this kind of game takes this long. Even starting from scratch shouldnt' take this long. There's barely any player reactivity or branching paths, which are the biggest consideration when it comes to visual novels. There's a couple inventory management events, and a few timed minigames, that's it. Especially since this is in Ren'Py. It was made with the express purpose of streamlining making this kind of game. The way people talk ~the code~, you'd think it was a complex physics engine or intricate hero shooter with multiple systems all working off each other in a delicate ballet. It's Ren'Py text and images. The most complex stuff is making sure a few events dont' trigger out of order, and that's a basic flowchart. This is not Baldur's Gate 3, it's Summertime Saga. I've seen what goes into a Ren'Py game. Their complexity has never justified almost a decades worth of development time.

This is taking longer than Red Dead Redemption 2. It's on track to being worse than Duke Nukem Forever. Fuck it, bring it out back and put a bullet in it. Maybe Dark Cookie will get the message and finally shit or get off the pot.

I agree - the thread should be locked for a while. Then, we wouldn't have to be constantly bombarded by crap like this.
The dev doesn't read or care about this thread. He only cares about the ones on his discord and who support him.
He has been putting out an update of sorts every two months and many have been frustrated at that.
But, rave on everyone, if it makes you feel any better - it does no good, however.

 

[Gundark]

I just don't understand why you people get so mad about discussions happening on a discussion board. Be butthurt about people rightfully criticizing DC and the team if you want to, but the whole purpose of the site is for people to talk. You're not mods.

Locking the thread because it's becoming impossible to defend this game is embarrassing.

 

[txe320]

I just don't understand why you people get so mad about discussions happening on a discussion board.

Well, because a lot of people, on both sides, don't have the intellectual capacities to understand something as simple as that, sadly.

 

[gam2000]

I just don't understand why you people get so mad about discussions happening on a discussion board. Be butthurt about people rightfully criticizing DC and the team if you want to, but the whole purpose of the site is for people to talk. You're not mods.

Locking the thread because it's becoming impossible to defend this game is embarrassing.

Criticizing is one thing, and is fine, but continuous character assassinations are another. It's just cruel, but continue on if you must.

 

[Gundark]

Criticizing is one thing, and is fine, but continuous character assassinations are another. It's just cruel, but continue on if you must.

Oh no, did I hurt this guy's feelings?



Criticism is more than germane for discussion threads. Calling it "character assassination" is ridiculous.

 

[wetjuicywetjuicywetjuicy]

Criticizing is one thing, and is fine, but continuous character assassinations are another. It's just cruel, but continue on if you must.

 

[LewdMiester001]

Can someone explain what happened to this game? Did they start over for some reason..? Or are they just making improvements on the original game?? So confused to come back to see content that should already be in the game back in patch notes

 

[txe320]

Can someone explain what happened to this game? Did they start over for some reason..? Or are they just making improvements on the original game?? So confused to come back to see content that should already be in the game back in patch notes

Like it was said at least once on every last pages; he remade and update the game since the coding was trash.

That basically it. Feel free to search for more on the thread if you want but yeah, that's it

 

[LewdMiester001]

Ah, awesome. Glad they are going back to unravel the spaghetti coding. Seeing how many different chicks you had if you romanced all of them can see how that could be an issue in the future if they would want to add more into the game.

 

[Edorath]

Case in point right there, lol.

No, I actually expect for interest to die down if this place gets locked and nobody talks about the game anymore. Maybe the game even ceases to exist like Queen Mebd in that one Merlin movie where people just choose to forget her. Poof and gone. Wouldn't that be nice?

You guys are the ones actually keeping the game alive, and you do it for fucking free lol.

yes because the people actively not paying the developer are keeping the game alive just by talking about it lmao
kindly go prove somewhere else you never finished your higher education, please and thank you