Does anyone know if they changed their mind about putting the next update in two parts parts cuz it looks like we're just going to get one big update now
Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]
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And have people complain endlessly about it, like they did with Research Into Affection?
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Well, damn you're right. I'm.. I don't know how many hours in now, and it HAS grown on me, and I have to say this game is truly and properly great! Writing and gameplay is actually SOLID for once. I've attempted to play so many of the games linked on this forum these past couple of months and most of the writing ranges from bad to offensively cringy, but this is one solidly written story. I'm enjoying this game a LOT!Well, you will get used to it. I was not a fan of the art at the beginning, but I find it quite good looking now
And as others pointed out, not every girl has huge boobs.
kinda right about that I mean...
NLT uses a lotta assets in the game, he can focus on what really matters a lot more. its efficiency. (scenes, coding, bug sqaushing, voice work, etc) SS has EVERYTHING you see in game 2d drawn. SS art is top notch, so are NLT models+animation. but NLT animation workflow is much more efficient with a 3d object. 2d animation is from the ground up drawn frame by frame.
however, you CAN compare these two especially in the aspect of story. I mean you said it yourself: SS focuses a lot more on stories and details.
I think NLT beats DC my a million miles when it comes to story. as much as all the characters in SS have something to them thats charming, the execution is often weak af(except roxxy which every1 agrees is the best update, and it hasn't been done like that again so it would be considered an exception)
in SS most characters often just instantly fall for MC almost day 1 without prior backstory/ very little context. for ex: the aunt, mom, friends mom, childhood friend, every teacher, just about every woman you meet is attracted to MC just because. although you could say its 'win cuz big dick/big money' kinda plot, but its starts off like a porn plot right off the bat. meanwhile TON, only 3 women start off liking MC sexually: the sis, the slut+sluts daughter. in TON, yes its still 'win cuz big dick+money' but there's resistance. The characters have their own goals throughout the story. MC has to break each woman down and earn their lust. TON MC is a cocky chad that actually seduces women, SS MC is an apologetic middling average guy, he only gets pussy from women who throw themselves at him. its japanese harem MC plot.
porn plots aren't all bad. I just don't want it to takes itself too seriously, thats when its cringe.
NLT has VISION, DC doesn't. matter of fact a lot of story in SS has been reworked, and since updates are by vote, progession with the story can change+be out of time sequence. NLT has tangible end goal that everyone can feel when they play. we know its going somewhere. I can't say the same for SS.
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Well, I'd disagree about the story. TON essentially has a nice main plot which is catchy and well done, while everything and everybody else more or less only serves that plot or is there to serve some kind of taste without getting a real story, while some characters (like Jessica or Pricia) will probably never get any story at all and only serve as a backup for scenes. In the end TON is very, very focussed on placing scenes etc. no matter whether they really make sense or not. That's fine because it's a porn game, but it doesn't always help the plot. I'd say it's actually a drawback of NLT's release concept since you've got to get scenes in every update, and thus literally every ~8 min of playtime. I don't really see the breaking down part you mention, since in the end it's 100% clear what's going to happen and he doesn't really spend the time to actually elaborate the story to that degree that actual tension would arise. To me it's just teasing and not much more.
DC on the other hand basically aims to let each main girl have a plot comprable to Roxxy/Eve/Jenny/etc. which is just a very different concept. In TON the main story is what the game is about, in SS it's just an arc of many.
Since 2018 DC seems to have a pretty consistent plan on what he wants to do and since then everything is fine. I mean, there's an official roadmap for SS out there (currently ~55% done) and DC sticks to it. All that's in question is the order in which the stories will be released.
Sure, the way the content on which to work next is decided is different, but in the end the votes are what patrons pay for. I mean, that's why SS is free and TON costs $25 per month.
Well, I'd disagree about the story. TON essentially has a nice main plot which is catchy and well done, while everything and everybody else more or less only serves that plot or is there to serve some kind of taste without getting a real story, while some characters (like Jessica or Pricia) will probably never get any story at all and only serve as a backup for scenes. In the end TON is very, very focussed on placing scenes etc. no matter whether they really make sense or not. That's fine because it's a porn game, but it doesn't always help the plot. I'd say it's actually a drawback of NLT's release concept since you've got to get scenes in every update, and thus literally every ~8 min of playtime. I don't really see the breaking down part you mention, since in the end it's 100% clear what's going to happen and he doesn't really spend the time to actually elaborate the story to that degree that actual tension would arise. To me it's just teasing and not much more.
DC on the other hand basically aims to let each main girl have a plot comprable to Roxxy/Eve/Jenny/etc. which is just a very different concept. In TON the main story is what the game is about, in SS it's just an arc of many.
Well, I'd say you are right and wrong about that. SS was never even supposed to be a game, but a coding exercise for DC to teach himself working with Renpy, which became popular and continued to grow. So in late 2017 he essentially had to decide to either improve the game to the level and to finish it properly or to simply half-ass an end as quickly as possible and to move on to the next proper project. Without these reworks the game would probably be a huge mess by now, like it happend to The Twist and others.
Since 2018 DC seems to have a pretty consistent plan on what he wants to do and since then everything is fine. I mean, there's an official roadmap for SS out there (currently ~55% done) and DC sticks to it. All that's in question is the order in which the stories will be released.
Sure, the way the content on which to work next is decided is different, but in the end the votes are what patrons pay for. I mean, that's why SS is free and TON costs $25 per month.
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Neat. Soooo probably another month then. Still, it's good to have an end in sight.
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I'm personally not hyped for any of the Trump family analogues. I find the fact that an update is being wasted on parodying that piece of human slime quite annoying.
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Yeah I don't really care that much about the Rump family, I'd rather have more content with Maria, Tina and the chinese girl, I always forget her name. I just want this update to be done so DC can focus on other character stories.
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It is so refreshing to see someone who does not constantly complain about if and when the update comes, how buggy it is when it comes early and how annoying when it comes late, that he would rather have another girl being focussed on, and so on and so on...
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A couple of questions:
What OS are you using?
Did you remember to extract the game to a folder that you made yourself?
Are you trying to reload a save from an earlier version?
Are you sure that your antivirus isn't intercepting it? Sometimes, even the best AVs have issues with Ren'Py, for whatever reason.
Also, please post the traceback that Ren'Py generates on crash.
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So I don't know whether this has been answered already and if it has I'm sorry for repeating a question:
Is the tracker on the Dev's site just for 20.5.1 or is it for all the 20.5 content? Cause I've been holding off on playing v20 until 20.5 was finished.
Is the tracker on the Dev's site just for 20.5.1 or is it for all the 20.5 content? Cause I've been holding off on playing v20 until 20.5 was finished.
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Thanks, but Ren'Py should have generated a Traceback file when it crashed out.
The next time it crashes, you just click "Copy to Clipboard" and use that.
Ren'Py's error catcher is actually pretty good.
AxelMasters, the patreon states 20.5. I think we can assume it's all the 20.5 content.