Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5597] [Kompas Productions]

[moi!moi!moi!]

DC was making the game with little to no $, he'll still be making the game if the pledges drop : his
Point still remains : where in anything said so far does DC come out as a milking scamlord ? People pledging are either happy with being milked or there's no milking whatsoever

People are happy being milked, clearly. Seeing as he has no end in sight after years developing it that much is clear, *an ending was never an option*. I mean he's adding useless stuff like old memes and trump that should be your first clue, that and redrawing all the art a 5th time.

I also can't help but hear 'TRUST THE PLAN' echoing in my head when you reply to me, weird.

Anyways, I don't really have an sympathy for the guys who are donating and getting strung along. I'm not 'whining' about them being milked or anything, it's not my problem or my original point. The only thing that irked me about you is that you keep using 'is free bro' and 'omg whining about milking' to stifle and lower people who rightly criticise the game. Whether you find some aggressive or not, those people cared enough to comment their issues with the game in the hopes that it would get better. There's some valid insight and critique in every roidraged rant post believe it or not.... And that's why I stepped in in the first place.

 

[j4yj4m]

@moi!moi!moi!:

I think you've taken a few things, said by some, too literally. Nobody here is claiming that DC would develop the game without making any money. What people mean when they say that "the game is free" is, that you simply don't pay for the game via patreon. Everybody gets it, so it doesn't matter whether you are a patron or not. Simple as that.

Somebody once compared that to musicians. One gives a concert, sells tickets and expects people to pay up front to listen to his music, while another sits in the park, plays for free with his hat in front of him so people can donate a little. Of course both need money to live, but there's still a fundamentally different distribution of power going on. Those who give money to the latter give it because they want to, not because they actually buy the product.

But yeah, to stick with that analogy, people will of course continue to claim that "the guy with the hat in the park" is milking people, who don't have to give a cent to listen to his music. Absurd, isn't it?

 

[guldfisk]

I am confused, the latest post said that the progress bar will go up to 100% over the coming weeks but 2 months ago they said 20.5 would be split up into two parts. Which one is it?

 

[j4yj4m]

I am confused, the latest post said that the progress bar will go up to 100% over the coming weeks but 2 months ago they said 20.5 would be split up into two parts. Which one is it?

The current tracker is for both parts of the update combined. To me it sounds like they are currently wrapping up the first part (hence the tracker isn't moving and we should get a release soonish) and will finish the second part in the next weeks or, lets be realistic, months.

But yeah, the post is certainly confusing, especially because it's not clear what "next update" actually means. As I read it, he's currently finishing the art for the whole of 0.20.5 and will continue with Ronda's stuff next week?

 

[Senazxc]

The art is pretty fast on this update

 

[moi!moi!moi!]

Yes, sure, if he hadn't made all that money he still wouldn't have a team now, and still be producing low-quality stuff or fast updates with poor content. So why not be happy that he now can deliver? Why all that hatred about him making too much money? Let him just do his thing. Let him get incredibly rich but do his thing, man.

If you read the stuff I said you'd know it has nothing to do with what your saying. I never hated on anything my point was simple and I reiterated it several times that repeating it is overkill at this point. At the end of the day I don't care about how much money he makes, how much content he has, or how long it's taking him to churn out content with no end in sight, but it's pure folly to ignore reality.

 

[srksrk 68]

If you read the stuff I said you'd know it has nothing to do with what your saying. I never hated on anything my point was simple and I reiterated it several times that repeating it is overkill at this point. At the end of the day I don't care about how much money he makes, how much content he has, or how long it's taking him to churn out content with no end in sight, but it's pure folly to ignore reality.

With "let him do his thing" I did not mean you specifically. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[srksrk 68]

The art is pretty fast on this update

Art never was an issue wrt/ progress.

 

[Sir_EatsALot]

it's not everyone it's literal coomers

- update comes out
- coomer edged for 14 hours on cheat mode the day the update came out instead of playing and enjoying the game for a couple hours a day over multiple weeks like a normal person would
- by day 2 he already coomed 15 times to the update plus played through all the mods
- "what the new update has been out for 2 whole days and dc isn't finished with the next one yet? wow i'm literally being scammed"
- another week passes
- coomer rages on f95 because he needs the new update to come out or he can't coom
- keeps complaining and saying dc is milkiing everyone until the new update is out

rinse and repeat. it's the cycle of autism

Umm what? Couple of hours a day over "multiple weeks"? You saying you play the game for 40+ hours every time an update comes out? That sounds pretty autistic to me not the other way around lol.

P.S: no offence to autism. It's just that the above poster is an idiot smart person for bringing that up without actually stop and think about what he was writing

 

[Badjourasmix]

I think his point was people, just play through the whole thing on cheat mode when a new update is relased, then don't have anything else to do and start complaining about stupid shit, like DC is milking his patrons.

 

[Badjourasmix]

The current tracker is for both parts of the update combined. To me it sounds like they are currently wrapping up the first part (hence the tracker isn't moving and we should get a release soonish) and will finish the second part in the next weeks or, lets be realistic, months.

But yeah, the post is certainly confusing, especially because it's not clear what "next update" actually means. As I read it, he's currently finishing the art for the whole of 0.20.5 and will continue with Ronda's stuff next week?

What I got from the status update is that they will probably release the full 0.20.5 instead of splitting it into 2 parts. And he will start working on Rhonda's update when he finishes all the art for this update. But I don't know the whole thing has been confusing.

 

[401Grem]

Umm what? Couple of hours a day over "multiple weeks"? You saying you play the game for 40+ hours every time an update comes out? That sounds pretty autistic to me not the other way around lol.

P.S: no offence to autism. It's just that the above poster is an idiot for bringing that up without actually stop and think about what he was writing

Do you feel better when you disparage others?

 

[Sir_EatsALot]

Do you feel better when you disparage others?

only when they do it first. I am actually a pretty nice person

 

[Badjourasmix]

The art for this update is pretty much done, there are only 2 taks left. If he starts working on Rhonda now, maybe we can still get her update this year.

 

[Zyx7]

I think he is too smart. He knows how to make them happy and keep them busy by doing some unnecessary polls. And I think he is paying some of the members here just for counter replying to posts which he think will harm his image.

Summertime Saga is project for decades.

 

[TheAnimence8]

considering how long I've been following SS I sure would love to get some of that money for counter replies lol

 

[Badjourasmix]

If he wants to pay someone I'm up for it.

 

[MrShadowDUH]

I think he is too smart. He knows how to make them happy and keep them busy by doing some unnecessary polls. And I think he is paying some of the members here just for counter replying to posts which he think will harm his image.

Summertime Saga is project for decades.

If you actually believe that people are being paid to defend a game on a porn game forum you are actually deluded.

 

[Omnikuken]

>.> How'd you figure out my monthly income was mostly DC paying me to point and laugh at the crying manchildren posting junk around here

 

[srksrk 68]

I think he is too smart. He knows how to make them happy and keep them busy by doing some unnecessary polls. And I think he is paying some of the members here just for counter replying to posts which he think will harm his image.

Summertime Saga is project for decades.

See? DC doesn't make any money at all because he gives it all to me, to defend his game.