Amedeeaa

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For 50.000 bucks a month there should bei some cash left to persuade the artist to do some more work.

For me it's milking and that's why I Support some smaller Projects, even though I like this game.
 
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mattius77

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I'm tired of being feed a lie and being told accept it. I can't continue to reward this purposeful bad behavior. If you want to, that's your right but don't be mad when all you have is emptied pockets and a half finished game.
The ability to not experience butthurt is directly proportional to the amount of time you are willing to devote to following/playing the game. If the state and pace of development of this title bothers you so much, quit. It's no more complicated than that. Go bye bye, and all your suffering will be at an end.
 

mattius77

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For 50.000 bucks a month there should bei some cash left to persuade the artist to do some more work.

For me it's milking and that's why I Support some smaller Projects, even though I like this game.
Patreon isn't meant to fund development the way something like Kickstarter operates. It's a tip jar, nothing more. I'd be 100% fine if DC didn't use a dime of the Patreon money to pay other contributors, and he continued working on the game by himself and in two years had a nice college fund set up for his kid.
 

armslev

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Oooh you mean Diane not Diana
tried a bunch of nothing helps, she is already pregnant, and in a notebook writes: Diane wants to explain how to increase her milk production. Somebody prompt what to do further, and that all brain to itself took out?
 

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tried a bunch of nothing helps, she is already pregnant, and in a notebook writes: Diane wants to explain how to increase her milk production. Somebody prompt what to do further, and that all brain to itself took out?
Can't quite remember how I unlocked it but for me it worked before getting her pregnant.
Visit Debbie a few times at night when Diane is on the couch watching tv and I think a cutscene will appear I'm not sure though
 

E-Dog

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I would rather wait 3-4 months for an update of this game, than to get 3-4 shorter updates of a game with a derivative plot and cookie cutter characters.
What about if judith or eve is the character for short updates? Just curious on thoughts.
 
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j4yj4m

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What about if judith or eve is the character for short updates? Just curious on thoughts.
The problem with short updates is that you very likely won't produce a good update. You'll end up missing a lot of story/content and have to squeeze in a sex scene somewhere to keep people happy. That's basically what happened to Mia's update which needed about 50 days and is still regarded as pretty bad, since the story feels rushed and incomplete.
 

TheDevian

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What about if judith or eve is the character for short updates? Just curious on thoughts.
Depends on what it is, if it is just a special thing, like this x-mas update, then I would be happy, since this is not a cookie cutter cgi game, using the same art assets as dozens of other games. I have little doubt that they would do something fun, though I still prefer the full story arcs to be the longer updates.
 

DrFog

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How about just a sucker because you don't accept this behavior anywhere else.

How do you have direction when you keep adding elements, changing plots, and ask the audience what to do next? At some point he'll grow bored and give up when the money train stops, life gets in the way, or perhaps y'all have filled his retirement coffer just right and he can just ghost.

His unwillingness to hire anyone to help with art boils down to milking. Every artist had assistants. Marvel, DC comic, Disney, etc, they all use multiple artist on every project. It happens every single place where art work goes on. DC's just greedy and he knows it. He says he worked in the gaming industry than he damn well knows this is how it works. People can mimick a style. There's people in the fan art page who prove it. DC ain't a unicorn.

I'm tired of being feed a lie and being told accept it. I can't continue to reward this purposeful bad behavior. If you want to, that's your right but don't be mad when all you have is emptied pockets and a half finished game.
Wow, okay. First of all, I don't pay for it, so I can hardly be considered "a sucker" for "accepting this behavior." Second of all, it's his game. If he wants to do all the artwork for it, that's entirely his choice. He might ask Patrons for what to add to the game, but as far as I'm concerned, that's just giving back to the community, not having a "lack of direction." Another thing, it's also his full time job at this point, so yeah, I wouldn't doubt that he's milking it for a retirement fund. Is making money on art a crime now? No one needs your negativity here. If you don't like the game, take your crying somewhere else.
 

DrFog

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What about if judith or eve is the character for short updates? Just curious on thoughts.
Judith, I'd be fine with a short update. Honestly one of my least favorite characters. Eve on the other hand, I'm not sure why there's such a stigma against her. When I first played the game she was one of the few characters I couldn't wait to get into bed with. I guess I just have a thing for goth chicks or something :whistle:
 

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Judith, I'd be fine with a short update. Honestly one of my least favorite characters. Eve on the other hand, I'm not sure why there's such a stigma against her. When I first played the game she was one of the few characters I couldn't wait to get into bed with. I guess I just have a thing for goth chicks or something :whistle:
Most of us that talk a lot on this thread REALLY want judith and eve.
 

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The problem with short updates is that you very likely won't produce a good update. You'll end up missing a lot of story/content and have to squeeze in a sex scene somewhere to keep people happy. That's basically what happened to Mia's update which needed about 50 days and is still regarded as pretty bad, since the story feels rushed and incomplete.
I just thought id play devils advocate and ask since practically all of us keep saying we want eve and judith material. I personally would rather wait for solid story material.
 

DrFog

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Most of us that talk a lot on this thread REALLY want judith and eve.
Interesting. Yeah, I just remember there being a bunch of complaining when Eve won the poll for .19 on Patreon. Judith though, I just don't understand. Her storyline seems pretty boring to me, and she's not nearly as attractive as some other characters that I've been waiting for. Like Maria :love:.

I just thought id play devils advocate and ask since practically all of us keep saying we want eve and judith material. I personally would rather wait for solid story material.
Personally, I think short updates might be a good thing if they quell the tide of disgruntled people that don't want to wait 3-4 months, but it would have to be something like a handful of bonus sex scenes for an already fleshed-out character. Or seasonal updates like Christmas, Halloween, and whatnot.
 

TheDevian

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Interesting. Yeah, I just remember there being a bunch of complaining when Eve won the poll for .19 on Patreon. Judith though, I just don't understand. Her storyline seems pretty boring to me, and she's not nearly as attractive as some other characters that I've been waiting for. Like Maria :love:.
Well, even if you don't like her, at the very least, we will also be banging the Latinas as well, and possibly others, depending on her story's progress.

Personally, I think short updates might be a good thing if they quell the tide of disgruntled people that don't want to wait 3-4 months, but it would have to be something like a handful of bonus sex scenes for an already fleshed-out character. Or seasonal updates like Christmas, Halloween, and whatnot.
We used to get them here, and it caused more problems than it solved. Most people agreed the longer ones were better. No matter what he does, there will be someone bitching about something, so he is going with, not only what most of this supporters wanted, but what allows him the most artistic integrity for the update.
 
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