Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]

[CassidyPRO]

Almost no Patron complained about incest.
Content depicting incestual relationships violates the community guidelines of Patreon:

And the more popular Summertime Saga became, the more attention it got from the powers that oversee these rules (that's why some games over there still contain incest, simply nobody official noticed until now). And since violating these rules means getting your account banned and no more income, of course did DarkCookie rush to remove all hints of a relationship between the characters engaging in sex.

Im not talking about the patron witchhunt.. im talking about actual fans complaining...


You can see that even in this thread.


not talking about the incest content being removed either.

 

[Hero1]

Im not talking about the patron witchhunt.. im talking about actual fans complaining...
You can see that even in this thread.

Considering how many posts shortly after a release are "does the incest patch still work", "where do I find a working incest patch" etc. I'd say more people complain about the removal of the incest than about the game at one point containing incest.
And with any fetish you always get arguments for and against it because people have varying tastes.

What I can kind of understand is the complaints about the focus on the same characters for a lot of the updates (0.11 (Mom), 0.12 (Jenny), 0.12.5 (Mom), 0.14 (incest removal), 0.17 (Diane) & 0.18 (Jenny)). And that is mostly tied to the relations of those characters to the player character.

 

[srksrk 68]

Considering how many posts shortly after a release are "does the incest patch still work", "where do I find a working incest patch" etc. I'd say more people complain about the removal of the incest than about the game at one point containing incest.
And with any fetish you always get arguments for and against it because people have varying tastes.

That makes you wonder -- why? If a feature is removed (here: incest) is's clear that people wantig it will complain. Why should the others that are OK with that removal say anything?

 

[a1fox3]

Almost no Patron complained about incest.
Content depicting incestual relationships violates the community guidelines of Patreon:

And the more popular Summertime Saga became, the more attention it got from the powers that oversee these rules (that's why some games over there still contain incest, simply nobody official noticed until now). And since violating these rules means getting your account banned and no more income, of course did DarkCookie rush to remove all hints of a relationship between the characters engaging in sex.

Im not talking about the patron witchhunt.. im talking about actual fans complaining...


You can see that even in this thread.


not talking about the incest content being removed either.

Considering how many posts shortly after a release are "does the incest patch still work", "where do I find a working incest patch" etc. I'd say more people complain about the removal of the incest than about the game at one point containing incest.
And with any fetish you always get arguments for and against it because people have varying tastes.

What I can kind of understand is the complaints about the focus on the same characters for a lot of the updates (0.11 (Mom), 0.12 (Jenny), 0.12.5 (Mom), 0.14 (incest removal), 0.17 (Diane) & 0.18 (Jenny)). And that is mostly tied to the relations of those characters to the player character.

That makes you wonder -- why? If a feature is removed (here: incest) is's clear that people wantig it will complain. Why should the others that are OK with that removal say anything?

Once Summertime Saga is done DC will put incest back into the game.
Either through a patch or host it on some other site.

 

[j4yj4m]

I'd say more people complain about the removal of the incest than about the game at one point containing incest.
And with any fetish you always get arguments for and against it because people have varying tastes.

What I can kind of understand is the complaints about the focus on the same characters for a lot of the updates (0.11 (Mom), 0.12 (Jenny), 0.12.5 (Mom), 0.14 (incest removal), 0.17 (Diane) & 0.18 (Jenny)). And that is mostly tied to the relations of those characters to the player character.

I can't remember anybody seriously complaining that there's incest in the game and the number of those people must be miniscule. I mean, I do think that DC focussed a bit too much on all this family stuff in the beginning (after all we are only talking about 3 out of 9 main girls/women) but that doesn't mean that I'm against it.

In general I'm not sure wether the patreon base has any real influence when it comes to this. They've hundreds of thousands of players by now and of course you'll have a number of people complaning about everything. DC mentions from time to time that he still gets hate mails because of "boner jesus" in the church. People will complain about everything and I can't see DC softening that much. If anything he's probably mostly changing stuff he himself doesn't like or ineed because patreon could cause troubles in one way or the other (like the old Jenny bed scene in that old context).

 

[j4yj4m]

Is the incest gone ? Havent realy noticed anyway the incest will be fine once the game is done atleast the real problem is that preggo system

Well, it's a "problem" for some with an incest fetish, just like the "pregnancy stuff" seems to be a problem for some with a serious pregnancy fetish. So they will have to hope that DC takes the time at some point to implement what they want, while everybody else doesn't really seem to care anyway.

 

[a1fox3]

Is the incest gone ? Havent realy noticed anyway the incest will be fine once the game is done atleast the real problem is that preggo system

All that was done was remove the words "mom", "sister" and "aunt" from the game and change the story up some so you are just living with the family.

Once the game is done and off of patreon then DC will revert it back to incest.

 

[ZugBub9000]

So is getting Jenny pregnant considered a "game over" for her arc? I have a few missing scenes but now I can't do anything with her.

 

[Badjourasmix]

So is getting Jenny pregnant considered a "game over" for her arc? I have a few missing scenes but now I can't do anything with her.

After she gives birth you need to wait a couple of weeks until you can do stuff with her again, but after that you should be able to unlock the remaining scenes.

 

[strenif]

I hate the mini game tbh. Ruins the scene. The spinny wheel is just RNG.

I'd rather ditch the wheel and have nothing happen in the GUI. Run the RNG check in the backround. If it fails the scene continues as normal. If it passes put a little fertilization animation in the corner.

 

[Somnus]

I'm lazy is there any way to unlock all scenes through the cookie jar I think it's called. There was a Persistent file for previous versions I believe was wondering if there was one for 18.2?

Put the file in the game folder.

Progress: 2 posing, 1 writing, 3 coding left. I'd expect this to be released this month but hey, since June is close by, they'll probably hold it until next month to charge people for the fast download server.

 

[Elpescador]

anyone know if you can change jennys dom/sub status thru console? I clicked thru it and now shes an uber bitch.

 

[avn10.6.8]

anyone know if you can change jennys dom/sub status thru console? I clicked thru it and now shes an uber bitch.

she can be submissive how?

 

[kaos1987]

Once the game is done and off of patreon then DC will revert it back to incest.

As much as I love this game I am firmly in the "Will it ever get finished though?" Camp.

It doesn't matter to me as everytime a new version comes out it has been so long since the last one that most of the story arcs feel fresh and its almost like playing a new game.

 

[srksrk 68]

she can be submissive how?

It's also mentioned in the walkthrough. Don't stay silent when she argues, don't give her the money right away and so on. You have four opportunities to do so.

anyone know if you can change jennys dom/sub status thru console? I clicked thru it and now shes an uber bitch.

There is a way, I did it myself. I have to look it up though.

 

[SDaddy666]

Time for a little review after progressing a few updates :

I still enjoy playing this game globally because of the sympathy its artwork and its general mood gives me. This is different in a good way from other games and at the beginning, the list of kinks and opportunities were HUGE.

That being said, here's a straight forward list of things I consider failed with sometimes some improvement possibilites :

- Playing the entire game at each new update is a big no-no. aint nobody got time for that. aint no possible argument valid at this point.The devs must provide a save where everything from the past is done and everything from the new update is to be done.
- The hint system must be improved
- I really doubt patrons paying for something like a year and a half now for mildly interesting overhauls and short updates fully agree with this.
- Women's bodies in this game look too much alike.
- The kink list is big, but there are only a few occurencies for each one, example, anal is a big thing, but only happens one yet ingame (coorect me if i'm wrong)
- Pregnancies. you didn't get it. What people wanted was to impregnate, then enjoy a pregnant body to fuck, with lactation etc, NOT HAVING A BABY. you missed it big time.
- This city is big, instead of doing senseless graphic reworks, you could extend it's limits and create more characters
- 3somes are missing a lot
- we go to a high school yet we can fuck only one girl of our age (not counting jenny). My point is this game is too milf oriented, balance must be restored.
- we can progress in the events without having to rewrite everything every other update, TRUST ME.
- outfits, we need them
- where are the submissive girls ? where are the dominant ones ? There is barely any change
- we need more randomized sex events, and more unique events. Making plans to fuck one specific girl at one specific place is boring. We need birthday dates and random encounters at specific places with opportunities to catch (meeting mrs johnson at the mall some morning ang having a shot a fucking her in the bathroom ?) Mia's birthday date ?
That's why Roxy's update was was better than the others.

- TL/DR we need more girls of our age, more variations in kinks and outfits and less rewriting and redesigning.

 

[dirgetka]

anyone know if you can change jennys dom/sub status thru console? I clicked thru it and now shes an uber bitch.

I believe the variable is called "dominance". Higher values mean Jenny is more submissive. I think the max is 5, but from what I remember looking at the code, setting it higher than that won't break anything

 

[srksrk 68]

Time for a little review after progressing a few updates :

I still enjoy playing this game globally because of the sympathy its artwork and its general mood gives me. This is different in a good way from other games and at the beginning, the list of kinks and opportunities were HUGE.

That being said, here's a straight forward list of things I consider failed with sometimes some improvement possibilites :

- Playing the entire game at each new update is a big no-no. aint nobody got time for that. aint no possible argument valid at this point.The devs must provide a save where everything from the past is done and everything from the new update is to be done.
- The hint system must be improved
- I really doubt patrons paying for something like a year and a half now for mildly interesting overhauls and short updates fully agree with this.
- Women's bodies in this game look too much alike.
- The kink list is big, but there are only a few occurencies for each one, example, anal is a big thing, but only happens one yet ingame (coorect me if i'm wrong)
- Pregnancies. you didn't get it. What people wanted was to impregnate, then enjoy a pregnant body to fuck, with lactation etc, NOT HAVING A BABY. you missed it big time.
- This city is big, instead of doing senseless graphic reworks, you could extend it's limits and create more characters
- 3somes are missing a lot
- we go to a high school yet we can fuck only one girl of our age (not counting jenny). My point is this game is too milf oriented, balance must be restored.
- we can progress in the events without having to rewrite everything every other update, TRUST ME.
- outfits, we need them
- where are the submissive girls ? where are the dominant ones ? There is barely any change
- we need more randomized sex events, and more unique events. Making plans to fuck one specific girl at one specific place is boring. We need birthday dates and random encounters at specific places with opportunities to catch (meeting mrs johnson at the mall some morning ang having a shot a fucking her in the bathroom ?) Mia's birthday date ?
That's why Roxy's update was was better than the others.

- TL/DR we need more girls of our age, more variations in kinks and outfits and less rewriting and redesigning.

I agree with the hint system, but I must say it already is not too bad. Definitly needs improvement.
I myself feel there are very different types of women.
Anal comes two times: Mia and Crystal (for me that's two times too much, but it's avoidable fortunately).
Pregnancies -- agreed.
Highschool? Out of Mia, Roxxy, Becca, Missy, June (and maybe Jenny) you only met one girl?
Outfits would be nice. Maybe the layered images provide the opportunity.
Jenny is submissive and/or dominant. Roxxy changes from dominant (bitch) to best friend, Becca as well -- not quite the same, I know.
In general, you have some good ideas. Problem is, all need time to be implemented.

 

[j4yj4m]

Next to what was written one should add that those reworks and redraws are somewhat necessary to keep the game really playable on andriod, which by now seems to be a huge part of the playerbase. It's important to see that the andriod version has hardly grown in size since 14.5, even though they added a lot of content (was 515MB back then and is now 580). That's because of those art optimizations.

Else it's indeed true that time is the biggest issue. As soon as a feature requires art to be drawn, it will increase the time an updates takes. So there's a lot that could be done, but right now it's all about priorities and thus major and selectable outfit changes etc. will likely never happen.

 

[Deleted member 426398]

As soon as a feature requires art to be drawn, it will increase the time an updates takes.

Boy, if only there was a solution to this...because it's not like it's been mentioned time and time again or nothing.