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MasterQ

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Guys, if the idea for the finale of the game is still the prom as DC planned, it's clearly impossible to get ALL the scenes in one playthrough. Since you can bring ONE girl at the prom and that will surely unlock a scene with her, you have to replay the game (or at very least the finale) different times.
I agree to not lock tons of content behind choices, but something like things are now is ok.
 

Badjourasmix

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I think the whole poll idea was bad. I don't know if the linear routes are still winning but if they do, people won't shut up about it if he decides to add branching paths. And now with the poll he can't say that the people that are complaining aren't even patrons, because he has a poll that shows that a majority of his patrons don't want branching paths.
 
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Guys, if the idea for the finale of the game is still the prom as DC planned, it's clearly impossible to get ALL the scenes in one playthrough. Since you can bring ONE girl at the prom and that will surely unlock a scene with her, you have to replay the game (or at very least the finale) different times.
I agree to not lock tons of content behind choices, but something like things are now is ok.
What speaks against bringing one but banging all the girls?
 

Badjourasmix

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Guys, if the idea for the finale of the game is still the prom as DC planned, it's clearly impossible to get ALL the scenes in one playthrough. Since you can bring ONE girl at the prom and that will surely unlock a scene with her, you have to replay the game (or at very least the finale) different times.
I agree to not lock tons of content behind choices, but something like things are now is ok.
That doesn't make it impossible to unlock all the scenes. At that point you probably have finished all the school girls stories you just have to choose one to go to the prom with. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to get all their scenes.
 

nightsight

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man eve is like a dream come true a perfect girlfriend for a weeb/nerd
Eve is by far my fave out of them all tbh :eek: its her personality that got me.
Only sad is that you cant do anything more other then knocking her up again and its quit funny when you do the second time xD
other then that. wish they would add more
 

Badjourasmix

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Yeah I think linear routes won. Now lets just see if DC abides by the poll or if he decides to ignore it. If he decides to ignore it will probably be another shitshow.
 

j4yj4m

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Yeah, this poll was pretty stupid and people will probably refer to it for years to come. On the upside I'm not sure whether Ronda and Annie would actually require a real choice, so it may take quite some time until it'll have some actual effect. I'm pretty sure that Judith's story without choice would be bad and I'd like to keep those in Mia's/Erik's story, too.
 

Badjourasmix

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Yeah, this poll was pretty stupid and people will probably refer to it for years to come. On the upside I'm not sure whether Ronda and Annie would actually require a real choice, so it may take quite some time until it'll have some actual effect. I'm pretty sure that Judith's story without choice would be bad and I'd like to keep those in Mia's/Erik's story, too.
Yeah I like the idea of helping him get with June. Mia's story would have to be completly different if he decides to remove the branching paths. I won't say any of the stories will be bad until I play them. They will have to be very different but I don't think they will be bad. But as you said it will still take a while until he needs to work on those stories, and I have a feeling he will ignore the poll and still add the different paths.
 

j4yj4m

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They will have to be very different but I don't think they will be bad.
I think it'll depend on how much he wants his characters to stay somewhat credible. It doesn't really make sense to mix for example Mia and Helen given their feelings towards each other (or you'll need a huuuge redemption arc for them) and it'll be even harder to mix Judith and the Latinas in a way that doesn't look like it's totally constructed. Choices just make it so much easier to write a story that makes sense and stays true to everybody's character.
 

Badjourasmix

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I think it'll depend on how much he wants his characters to stay somewhat credible. It doesn't really make sense to mix for example Mia and Helen given their feelings towards each other (or you'll need a huuuge redemption arc for them) and it'll be even harder to mix Judith and the Latinas in a way that doesn't look like it's totally constructed. Choices just make it so much easier to write a story that makes sense and stays true to everybody's character.
I just like to wait before judging if it is bad or not. But yeah it will be very hard to make those stories credible, I agree with you.
 

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DC is doing very well in my opinion, there were two fetishes that I personally love in this update, pizza delivery and cuckold (although I would rather see the PC watching).
Unfortunately I'm Brazilian and it is very expensive for me to pay the patreon in our currency, but I wanted to give some "tips" to DC, I think there is a lack of sex with two men, for example now with Tony he missed the opportunity.
 
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snakeplisskin

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The new poll is exactly why I stopped being a patron. We all knew that most people want to skip everything to fap while having everything handed to them on a single Playthrough. But he put it to a poll anyway and look what happened we now will be getting linear story with no choices so people can fap.
 
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isn't he already? i mean i recently replayed the eve route and MC spends all this time with eve, telling her how beautiful and special she is, she falls in love with him and they start dating. then MC sees her hot sister getting a naked massage so he jumps in and impregnates her, then convinces grace to keep the baby and they keep it a secret from eve. then he repeats the same process about 10 times (at least that's how it was when i played the game, i have like a dozen kids with grace by now). MC has a friendly and pure exterior but i don't see how anyone can think he isn't morally completly corrupt.
Well, this all entirely depends on both you the player and the choices you make, doesn't it?

The game doesn't force you to have sex with Odette or Grace.
The game doesn't force you to impregnate them either.
You could just reject them and stick entirely to Eve.

At the end of the day, the MC is just a culmination of the choices you the player made for him.
You can't really complain about the MC feeling like an a-hole with multiple children from multiple women when you are the one making all those choices for him.

In addition, you can't really complain about the MC having multiple girlfriends/lovers when that is literally the purpose of this entire game.
The whole point of Summertime Saga is to acquire as many lovers/girlfriends/sex-friends as possible.
Taking issue with this is like taking issue with the fact that the MC in a Pokemon game has dozens of different Pokemon.


Well, that's true and such things do happen because there are no real choices in Eve's story. There's no choice between Grace and Eve, as there should be, and that's why we'll never have a nice and gratifying Grace subplot. It's really that simple. If there's no choice the only real options are to essentially make all girls the same (likely either the Roxxy cuckoldress type or the Odette easy going type) or to cheat behind their back, like in Eve's case.

But yes, I'd still say it's more an unavoidable consquence of the game design, rather than an actual character trait of MC.
I agree that it would be interesting to be able to choose between exclusively dating Eve, exclusively dating Grace, or just dating them both at the same time.
But we have to remember that neither Grace nor Odette were intended to be primary girls.
They are the secondary girls who are "accessed" ;) by completing Eve's storyline.

Also, it would make more sense for there to be some consequences that come with impregnating Grace and/or Odette.
But I'm sure the point of this game is to allow the MC to have all these sexual experiences free of any consequence.
That's the reason why when you finish both Eve and Roxxy's individual routes, you can go into French class in the morning, make out with Eve and then make out with Roxxy without any problems.

Lastly, in my humble opinion, all this isn't an unavoidable consequence of Summertime Saga's unique game design.
All of this is a consequence of the type of game Summertime Saga is - a soft-harem type sex game.

P.S. Hey j4yj4m, could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "the only real options are to essentially make all girls the same?" I personally am of the opinion that the many girls in this game vary impressively in terms of their personalities, backstories, and character traits.
 
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