Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]

[Marphey]

That's good to hear, I'd heard that he'd gotten a icy cold shoulder when he asked for advice.

Reminds me of something I've heard many times--those who want to take advantage of LGBTQ+ often learn all the terms flawlessly in order to gain their confidence. It advises to recognize when someone is genuinely trying to do the right thing, to use the right terms, even if they stumble.

I often consider myself "mildly gender non-conforming." Nothing drastic, but I really never fit in with boys growing up, never got some of their attitudes and felt more at ease in the company of girls. I often look to the time when "gender non-conformity" is no longer a thing.

Identity politics. That's definetly what we need on these forums.

 

[Marphey]

I will give my two cents to the whole discussion. As of right now optional trans character is the best compromise for those who want such character and those who are not into that.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Adding to the arguments, I just kinda think the Eve trap/trans thing was kind of poorly executed in general. I think there are a lot of areas where it could of been handled better and it just ends up feeling more natural in relation to the rest of the game that Eve is a girl by birth.

 

[Marphey]

Adding to the arguments, I just kinda think the Eve trap/trans thing was kind of poorly executed in general. I think there are a lot of areas where it could of been handled better and it just ends up feeling more natural in relation to the rest of the game that Eve is a girl by birth.

Don't forget that this game is made for sexual release. You people just taking this too seriously. This site is definetly not for you if you seek compeling story about transgender people.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Don't forget that this game is made for sexual release. You people just taking this too seriously. This site is definetly not for you if you seek compeling story about transgender people.

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

 

[Marphey]

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

I am not going to argue with you about that but that is how things are on this site.

 

[j4yj4m]

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

In the end there's has to be some kind of compromise between what should be done (which is something one can argue about) and what can actually be done. The cutscenes already take a good chunk of DC's time and adding a lot more story will also increase the time it takes to release and update.

While I'd fully agree with what you are saying, one just has to accept that we aren't talking about a simple VN or indeed light novel/book and as such it's not always that easy to just add "more story" while maintaining the quality and the schedule.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

In the end there's has to be some kind of compromise between what should be done (which is something one can argue about) and what can actually be done. The cutscenes already take a good chunk of DC's time and adding a lot more story will also increase the time it takes to release and update.

While I'd fully agree with what you are saying, one just has to accept that we aren't talking about a simple VN or indeed light novel/book and as such it's not always that easy to just add "more story" while maintaining the quality and the schedule.

I'm not arguing that it needs to have more story. I'm simply arguing that a good story is just as important to the game as the porn. And for the most part the game really gets it right in that aspect. And yeah, its almost to a fault at times, with the story far outweighing the porn content, but I'm actually really happy with where the game is right now. My original argument was that I didn't think the Eve trap/trans reveal felt natural within the game, but that is just one small instance where I felt the writing kind of failed. Overall I thought Eve's story was really good, but it just kind of fumbled on the trans subject matter.

 

[j4yj4m]

My original argument was that I didn't think the Eve trap/trans reveal felt natural within the game, but that is just one small instance where I felt the writing kind of failed. Overall I thought Eve's story was really good, but it just kind of fumbled on the trans subject matter.

In that case I may have missunderstood you. I thought you meant it like "her story was bad as it is and as such it should have been elaborated further to fix it".

I'd fully agree that there are quite a few gaps in her story, but then again, these exist in every story and such I don't really mind them.

 

[Tikky]

Which of the women in this game can you fuck?More details, if you don't mind!Thanks!

 

[Omnikuken]

There's like 25-30 girls you can dick, way too many to list. Just haul your face onto the wiki and check them out : faster for you and no hassle for us. You'll also feel better with yourself having found a place where every question you'll ever had is already answered

 

[Dragon59]

You're not stating an opinion though. An opinon would be "I don't like trans content." You said it "never was intented to be a trans genre game... And drawing the trans animations takes time and effort from normal content." Neither of which are factually true, yet you present them as fact. Three people tell you that you are, in fact, making incorrect statements about the content of the game and the game's development cycle, and present proof as to why you are incorrect. Then you persist in presenting your flawed, self-informed information as facts about the game's development. If you can't differentiate between an opinion and a fact, that doesn't change the definition of those words as defined in American or British English.

Having a trans character in the game or any forum of media is not "hijacking" it.

Agreed. To portray the inclusion of a single trans character, a sympathetic one at that, does not turn a game into "a trans genre game," The inclusion of Russian mobsters does not make a Mafia family genre game either (like DeLuca Family).

Off-topic, possibly will be deleted because O/T.
It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

Fingers crossed!
I didn't realize the rate was so high for human chimerism. Now that I think about it, cases of different eye colors or hair colors is not extremely uncommon.

Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. Hermaphrodites usually don't have two fully functional sexual organs - certainly not as we see it in some games.
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Sure, it exists, but I mean, the chance to have a perfectly working "normal" dick and a fully functional female sexual organs is basically indeed zero. At least as far as I'm aware.

Not that it really matters. I just wanted to point out that there's a reason why trans and futa shouldn't be used as synonyms.

Agreed they are two very different things.
I was reading that the incidence of having "ovotestes," having both ovarian and testicular tissue, is 1 in 83,000 births. There have been some cases of penile potency, being able to have an erection, but penile fertility is rare to non-existent. It was referenced in a 1994 study but according to a 2010 study, none have been reliably documented. In most cases, the ovaries "rule" and most can get pregnant. I remember decades ago a talk show that had a case of a intersex woman whose father had decided she'd be a boy and had her stitched up. She later had that undone, and had gotten pregnant by her partner, but the British healthcare system denied her prenatal care because her birth certificate said male and males did not get prenatal care. Sheesh! Talk about bureaucratic nightmare!

 

[Dragon59]

Don't forget that this game is made for sexual release. You people just taking this too seriously. This site is definetly not for you if you seek compeling story about transgender people.

I see your point, but I disagree. You are basically saying adult games are porn first in nature which is untrue. The story is important to give life and drive to the sex scenes and the more compelling the story, the more intense and rewarding that scene is. Build up and payoff are essential in these games, which is the main reason why 95% of all adult games are complete trash.

Presumably, there are some people who can achieve "release" while playing these games, but that's not the case for me. I think the last time I climaxed looking at a drawing was when I was in the first months of puberty (I used to trace characters from comics as naked}.
In the 21st century, I use these for erotic entertainment, not fap material. I may get a little aroused, but if I want media for release, I go to real porn.

 

[BBC King]

Presumably, there are some people who can achieve "release" while playing these games, but that's not the case for me. I think the last time I climaxed looking at a drawing was when I was in the first months of puberty (I used to trace characters from comics as naked}.
In the 21st century, I use these for erotic entertainment, not fap material. I may get a little aroused, but if I want media for release, I go to real porn.

Im guessing you never played modded skyrim or fallout, lol.

 

[Dragon59]

Im guessing you never played modded skyrim or fallout, lol.

True, I've never played either of them (modded or unmodded).

 

[yoyomistro]

Presumably, there are some people who can achieve "release" while playing these games, but that's not the case for me. I think the last time I climaxed looking at a drawing was when I was in the first months of puberty (I used to trace characters from comics as naked}.
In the 21st century, I use these for erotic entertainment, not fap material. I may get a little aroused, but if I want media for release, I go to real porn.

Honestly, I get off to games, especially because they're a more immersive avenue to explore some of my more fucked-up turn ons: voyeurism, non-con (mainly forced, sleep sex, mind control/hypnosis, but I'm also down for blackmail), monsters (although the degree to which this is "fucked-up" depends on it's overlap with other genres like non-con, Aqua/Daisy content is pretty kosher), and slow-burn incest (none of that step-cest stuff that's basically gonzo in most films today, I like the peeling away of layers of socialization and biological disgust), but also because they're good vehicles for storytelling that provide powerful experiences if done right.

But it probably only works for me because I've developed a technique where I can edge for hours, so long dead periods with no action in games like this one only help to build up to the big moments, lol. The really crappy thing about the purge is there's less high-quality content that explores some of the more fucked-up content, and a lot of the Japanese stuff is way too wordy and just kills the mood, so I just wait till the OAV releases of the better games. I like regular, real-life stuff though, it's probably 50-50 for me. Animated/illustrated media has just always done something extra for me though. Like I still hold onto older versions of this game for the borderline non-con stuff with Jenny. Some of the greatest scenes in porn game history IMO.

 

[orrayt3x]

who's on the new poll?

 

[Marphey]

Honestly, I get off to games, especially because they're a more immersive avenue to explore some of my more fucked-up turn ons: voyeurism, non-con (mainly forced, sleep sex, mind control/hypnosis, but I'm also down for blackmail), monsters (although the degree to which this is "fucked-up" depends on it's overlap with other genres like non-con, Aqua/Daisy content is pretty kosher), and slow-burn incest (none of that step-cest stuff that's basically gonzo in most films today, I like the peeling away of layers of socialization and biological disgust), but also because they're good vehicles for storytelling that provide powerful experiences if done right.

But it probably only works for me because I've developed a technique where I can edge for hours, so long dead periods with no action in games like this one only help to build up to the big moments, lol. The really crappy thing about the purge is there's less high-quality content that explores some of the more fucked-up content, and a lot of the Japanese stuff is way too wordy and just kills the mood, so I just wait till the OAV releases of the better games. I like regular, real-life stuff though, it's probably 50-50 for me. Animated/illustrated media has just always done something extra for me though. Like I still hold onto older versions of this game for the borderline non-con stuff with Jenny. Some of the greatest scenes in porn game history IMO.

I am always happy when i meet fellow man of culture.

 

[McSlut]

who's on the new poll?

would love to know the same

 

[ILikeTrains]

At least this new discussions in the forum is not the useless "update when? Dc is taking so long. Dc is stealing money (and I'm mad I can't do the same)"