Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5605] [Kompas Productions]

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Asclepios

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If I understood correctly, the technical update is almost finished.
Given that the graphics and scenario part is not started from scratch (I hope, otherwise the madness is even more... complete) we can hope for faster updates to find the pre-tech content, No ?

In the meantime, I will continue to be patient by playing other games. Because if SS was a precursor on lots of things, now there are plenty of games at its level.
 
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Ryuukun said:
The "normal" download is the new Uber 2 year worth of work mega Tech Update preview. (stripped of 90% of its content)
The other one, is the 'old' version of the game. (but with all it's content)
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harem.king said:
Normal download:
<5% of the content
widescreen
10x+ faster loading screens
no audio

Before tech update
100% of the content
4:3 aspect ratio
very slow loading screen
has audio
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Vendovah said:
Not worth it at all, this update removed 95% of the content. Play the "old" 20.16 version if you want to see the content you missed, because there's probably not going to be anything new or worth downloading for another couple years at least. (If ever.)
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Urpo said:
No new content. +90% of old content is removed. You decide.
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For heaven's sake, why are you still answering them?



mattius77 said:
Full disclosure: I am not a coder. I do not pretend to know coding even at an enthusiast level of understanding.

But I do know game development, specifically the business side of AAA publishing. And I really wish people would stop saying SS is 'mismanaged' or similar turns of phrase, because that implies something didn't go as planned. Where, as an outside observer with the background I have, it seems the project has been actually been 'managed' more or less as the developer intended. He's not developing a game, he's sustaining an ecosystem. And it would actually be a net bad for that system if the tech update was complete and worked right out of the box.
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My honest feeling is that everything is going as Darkcookie planned.




Asclepios said:
If I understood correctly, the technical update is almost finished.
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NOPE - it's totally the opposite: if it were almost finished, they wouldn't have released anything.

Asclepios said:
we can hope for faster updates to find the pre-tech content, No ?
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Well... No.
 
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What I dont get is that if he just wanted to never finish the game, why not just constantly add a few scenes here and there? Even something as banal as 3 scenes every 6 months + some a tech update wouldn't be as BS as what we have now
 
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mattius77 said:
Full disclosure: I am not a coder. I do not pretend to know coding even at an enthusiast level of understanding.

But I do know game development, specifically the business side of AAA publishing. And I really wish people would stop saying SS is 'mismanaged' or similar turns of phrase, because that implies something didn't go as planned. Where, as an outside observer with the background I have, it seems the project has actually been 'managed' more or less as the developer intended. He's not developing a game, he's sustaining an ecosystem. And it would actually be a net bad for that system if the tech update was complete and worked right out of the box.
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I don’t think you can fault people for assuming that the intent behind the project was for DC to make a complete game that included whatever content his patrons were promised within a reasonable timeframe based on the resources available to him. It seems like a basic, if you will, good faith assumption. If you look at the dev history, then it seems like something went completely sideways.

I guess if you look at it from the angle of this being a project that mainly exists to deepen the coffers of his company in order to possibly finance future endeavors, by making SS into an ever expanding project, then it’s definitely managed in the correct manner.
 
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CreativeCritic2

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'completion' is only a useful benchmark if you are wanting to ship a finished product. That is not the business model for these kinds of games... they're all about keeping subscribers happy and people have been happy paying for updates with additional scenes and characters. Love + Second Base is literally an ever-expanding soap opera where each new update brings new scenes, new characters, new social structures. These games do not need to ever 'finish' just as World of Warcraft doesn't need to 'finish' as long as you keep adding new stuff, people will be happy.

I suspect the issue is that, at some point, a technological decision was made that made that model impossible. I suspect these kinds of technical reboots are often done in an effort to give games room to grow. The problem is that, with a game this old and with this much content, getting rid of all the content is a death knell as it will now take years just to get the game back to where it was at the end of the last update and those are years in which existing subscribers can get bored.
 
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Vendovah said:
Not worth it at all, this update removed 95% of the content. Play the "old" 20.16 version if you want to see the content you missed, because there's probably not going to be anything new or worth downloading for another couple years at least. (If ever.)
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Oh thanks for letting me know. Yeah, I remember like almost 2 years ago. The game was done perfectly fine. And I have been waiting for this new update because I haven’t played this game for a such a long time but I just feel so disappointed. I’m should not be taking this long for tech update or whatever. Some of the other games in the last two years have improved their gaming so much that it’s much better to play those game rather than this one because there’s no new content no new animation 99% of it being old version shit I played the new version for a little while then I basically went back to the other version that you mentioned.
 
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Urpo said:
No new content. +90% of old content is removed. You decide.
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Thanks yeah I played the new version for a little bit of time and I hated it so much. It’s very disgusting. The Patreon. people are getting like right in front of their eyes because of this new content.
 
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Ryuukun said:
The "normal" download is the new Uber 2 year worth of work mega Tech Update preview. (stripped of 90% of its content)
The other one, is the 'old' version of the game. (but with all it's content)
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Well then, it's better to download the second option as it already has all the complete content and then wait for the new update of this mega tech change that he is making
 
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