RudyMan

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Okay, I’m gonna poke the angry nest here, bruh.
I’ll try not to meatride too hard on the devs I swear.

First of all, quality over quantity—not sure why there were so many tech updates. Probably for a reason, but if it means the game loads in 30 seconds instead of 3 minutes, like it was (or still is) on mobile, and there are less bugs, which I haven't encounter now for a long-long time, I’ll take that as a win.

Second, about this crazy math you’re throwing out of nowhere: it’s like my brain is getting damaged, like when I fell into the Minecraft void—the more I read it, the worse it gets.
33,403 subscribers at $1 minimum sounds wild, sure. Let’s forget the fees, forget that Patreon takes a cut, and even forget that transaction fees bite into its ass—it’s irrelevant. Let’s not even mention taxes, because yeah, who cares. But please, man, I’m begging here: at least divide it because there are 10 people on this team.
My man here posted his math skills before GTA 6.


(Also, there’s a new title coming up. So maybe they’re transferring most of the assets into that? But hey it’s just a theory.)
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Yeah, alright, 10 people.
Now, they have 1,5,10 and 20$ stuff. So, without cuts, they're probably making AT LEAST 60k/month.Now we can "add" all this stuff you mentioned, and even with this it's safe to say they have at least 30k/month clean. Probably more, but fine, 30k it is.
So, each fella getting his fare share of... 36k/year. Yeah, it's not that much, at least for US and EU, but still good enough.
And, as you said, it's a team of 10 PEOPLE. TEN, CARL! And even if this is not their full time job (but should be really close), they literally spend last 3-4 months for a few QoL fixes, few bugfixes, very few new arts and few !restored! events. So... practically almost nothing really new. 10 people. 36+k/year. Each. And we have this.
 
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Badjourasmix

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Not before another "technology update" and it starts over again. 3020 more likely.
Yea, unless he cuts a lot of the planned content, there is no way this is finished in 2030. Hell at this rate it seems like the tech update won't even be finished next year. Patreon will probably ban all adult content before this ever gets close to being finished.
 

Elyauris

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I certainly do have empathy for scam victims. What I have no empathy for is a) people whining about a game they probably haven't paid anything for (please note the usage of the word "probably") and b) when said whiners have shown zero empathy for scam victims.

Now for something for you to try: comprehend that not every question or comment on the internet is an attack against yourself.
Are you stupid or stupid?
If i do not pay or support dev via patreon i can't complain about anything? I can't be mad that dev is a lazy shit earning $$$$ for doing bare minimum? Mhm, nice thinking. If i see a SCAM peace of shit dev like [Komisari] who for years is scamming tons of $$$ with only promises, with your thinking i should: a) Stfu and do nothing b) Pay him via patreon and then I will get access to complain about him -_-
 

Count Morado

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First, to be mad at a scam, you don't need to be the victim of it yourself. You can feel empathy for what happens to others, too. Try it.
Second, this game has always been meant to be free, but it always meant also to be finished. That was what DC said years ago.

There is a direct link between the game being not finished and people being scammed; so 2 reasons to not be pleased.
First, true. However what is the scam? No one is promised anything for their subscription except for what is stated in the tier benefits on Patreon. Which DC and the Dev team do adhere to. The game is not a tier benefit. A finished game is not a tier benefit. At no time does DC say if he doesn't get $$$$ that he won't be able to work anymore.

Second, true and false. True that this game has always been free and will be free for the foreseeable future. False on it always intended on being finished. In fact, DC has stayed many times, as early as 2017 in interviews, etc that:

And has mentioned as recently as September that he could easily see 100, 200, even 300 NPCs for Anon to interact with.
 
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Metaphour

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I certainly do have empathy for scam victims. What I have no empathy for is a) people whining about a game they probably haven't paid anything for (please note the usage of the word "probably") and b) when said whiners have shown zero empathy for scam victims.

Now for something for you to try: comprehend that not every question or comment on the internet is an attack against yourself.
Rarely do I think posts are dumb, but this is borderline insulting lol.
 

Muuser

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These looks new.
Debbie's Route seems like it's being Reset when i use my older Save.
Remind me again how to get that Locked Scene ?
I also couldn't ask her for the Lotion Scene.
Would you mind share your save in the save thread, please?
My old save didnt work

Edit: nvm it worked xD
 
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Kohan953

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Are you stupid or stupid?
If i do not pay or support dev via patreon i can't complain about anything? I can't be mad that dev is a lazy shit earning $$$$ for doing bare minimum? Mhm, nice thinking. If i see a SCAM peace of shit dev like [Komisari] who for years is scamming tons of $$$ with only promises, with your thinking i should: a) Stfu and do nothing b) Pay him via patreon and then I will get access to complain about him -_-
No one said you couldn't complain. My question was "how many of those complaining have financially supported the game?", or put another way, who has legitimate grievances vs whining about a free game?
That's it. Nothing about "gotta pay if you wanna complain". Reading comprehension is apparently as reviled as DC is.
 

Count Morado

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What I always find hilarious are the players who come to f95zone specifically to scam developers by playing games without compensation, subscription, or donation (whether the games are free from the developers or not) and then hypocritically call developers scammers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm here not to pay, subscribe, donate either --- but I am not going to then be hypocritical about it.
 

jish55

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So I'm guessing we won't have all the previous content back for another year?
 

Count Morado

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The previous update had pregnant debbie art in the game files, he’s definetly gatekeeping
Gatekeeping what? The game is free to everyone and anyone directly from developer.

He'd get larger subscriber numbers if he released pregnant Debbie content. It would benefit to release if it was ready, not to withhold.
 
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Badjourasmix

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First, true. However what is the scam? No one is promised anything for their subscription except for what is stated in the tier benefits on Patreon. Which DC and the Dev team do adhere to. The game is not a tier benefit. A finished game is not a tier benefit. At no time does DC say if he doesn't get $$$$ that he won't be able to work anymore.

Second, true and false. True that this game has always been free and will be free for the foreseeable future. False on it always intended on being finished. In fact, DC has stayed many times, as early as 2017 in interviews, etc that:

And has mentioned as recently as September that he could easily see 100, 200, even 300 NPCs for Anon to interact with.
Well when I used to watch his streams he often talked about his plans for the ending so at least at some point he intended to finish it.
I've agreed with some of your posts in the past but at this point I think this situation is indefensible. When people voted for the tech update they did it because he said it would only take around 9 months. Almost 4 years later and it seems like it is not even close to being finished. And now that he is finally releasing something, the updates are so small that they aren't even worth playing.
Is scam the right word to use? I don't know, but it sure does feel shady as fuck.
 

Bro4205

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Gatekeeping what? The game is free to everyone and anyone directly from developer.

He'd get larger subscriber numbers if he released pregnant Debbie content. It would benefit to release if it was ready, not to withhold.
If the art is ready then why not release it? Pardon my ignorance friend im only trying to understand
 
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