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If he was actually adding shit to the game I don't think the mood around here would be so dour. I took a look into the stream for the first time in a while and he's currently re-working Diane's art as it fits into Debbie's story, which would make this like the third or possibly fourth re-work that she's gotten during development.

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He'll never stop remastering his game unless someone physically takes the tablet out of his hands. Once he's done with the tech update in like three years he'll go back to Jenny and start all over again since he'll have grown to hate her existing art. For everyone who bitches about executive interference in games, this is what you get without a publisher cracking the whip: an artist who'd rather endlessly refine his work to some abstract notion of perfection rather than release something into the wild.

Leonardo da Vinci spent over a decade working on the Mona Lisa, and the only thing that stopped him from further refinement was because his hand became paralyzed a couple years before his death. It technically remains unfinished and was never delivered to the person who commissioned it. Food for thought.
I can see that you are a man of culture... a rarity in this site... especially when talking about Dark Cookie... who suffers from the same disease as Leonardo...
 
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Foresch;ong

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Info for people: This is just an introduction to the characters (basicly), you have 1 scene with nudity and one with partial. It's an Alpha version so you cant do much (3 minutes of gameplay at best). But the art is spot on and if the creator really grinds out updates and works seriously hard on this then it will be a great game.
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0nymous

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He'll never stop remastering his game unless someone physically takes the tablet out of his hands. Once he's done with the tech update in like three years he'll go back to Jenny and start all over again since he'll have grown to hate her existing art. For everyone who bitches about executive interference in games, this is what you get without a publisher cracking the whip: an artist who'd rather endlessly refine his work to some abstract notion of perfection rather than release something into the wild.
Pure fucking wisdom right here. Artists are not developers.
People scoff at management positions in companies, but whip-crackers are very essential for getting shit done. The fact that virtually all Patreon and subscription-based "companies" are very loosely organized and lack those whip-crackers is why they're all stuck in perpetual development-rework mire.
I personally lost all hope that this kusoge will be ever finished 3 years ago already. Boggles my mind why it's still so popular. A motherfucking "tech re-work" took 2 years or something?? AN ENGINE REWORK IN MOTHERFUCKING REN'PY; AN ENGINE THAT'S ALREADY PRE-BUILT???
 

BobBoober

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I bought a 21:9 screen laptop... I realised, that after the tech update, there must be another tech update! Otherwise I'll have to put up with black bars on the side while watching the content-free tech version, thats the problem the Tech-Update had to prevent. I can open the old version twice and fill the screen thats a workaround.
I hereby demand a pre-tech-techpretech version to 21:9 ratio! And less tech pre for techless Pre-Version as well as an engine rework based on standard Renpy to Renpy standards!
 
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PayneToTheMax

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Pure fucking wisdom right here. Artists are not developers.
People scoff at management positions in companies, but whip-crackers are very essential for getting shit done. The fact that virtually all Patreon and subscription-based "companies" are very loosely organized and lack those whip-crackers is why they're all stuck in perpetual development-rework mire.
I personally lost all hope that this kusoge will be ever finished 3 years ago already. Boggles my mind why it's still so popular. A motherfucking "tech re-work" took 2 years or something?? AN ENGINE REWORK IN MOTHERFUCKING REN'PY; AN ENGINE THAT'S ALREADY PRE-BUILT???
You can ask the same about the likes of BaDIK. The updates for that one take an retardedly long time as well, but it's seemingly popular.
 

Lupin the 3rd

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Probably Diane next since he worked on her in one of the Streams recently since Diane also tied in to Debbies Story. Would make sense.
 

Maulis47

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Pure fucking wisdom right here. Artists are not developers.
People scoff at management positions in companies, but whip-crackers are very essential for getting shit done. The fact that virtually all Patreon and subscription-based "companies" are very loosely organized and lack those whip-crackers is why they're all stuck in perpetual development-rework mire.
I personally lost all hope that this kusoge will be ever finished 3 years ago already. Boggles my mind why it's still so popular. A motherfucking "tech re-work" took 2 years or something?? AN ENGINE REWORK IN MOTHERFUCKING REN'PY; AN ENGINE THAT'S ALREADY PRE-BUILT???
I think most people scoff at management positions because a manager that didn't spend enough time in the work process is close to useless most of the the time. Like my father said he only had 1 boss who didn't know jack shit about what they were doing but when shit hit the fan he stepped in to protect my father's coworker for taking the blame.
Nonetheless I agree with you that management came into existence for a reason and is very important, it's just over time most things end up slowly decaying instead of a nice, quick end.
 

LAOWANG92

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After all these years, Debbie can't get pregnant! I know there must be a lot of people who want to see her pregnant in the remake after all, the text has changed now!!
 

Kryapa

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I'm thinking about replaying this after around 5 years. Could someone please enlighten me about the whole "tech updates" theme? So, he is basically:
  • releasing one update every 2 months to restore the original content
  • every LI will require at least one tech update, x3 for the main quest
  • for now only Debby's and Jenny's paths partially restored
So, at best its ~ (6 LI + 6 side characters) * 2 months + 10% delays = more than 2 years just to restore the original content. Am I correct?
 

Acesaw

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I'm thinking about replaying this after around 5 years. Could someone please enlighten me about the whole "tech updates" theme? So, he is basically:
  • releasing one update every 2 months to restore the original content
  • every LI will require at least one tech update, x3 for the main quest
  • for now only Debby's and Jenny's paths partially restored
So, at best its ~ (6 LI + 6 side characters) * 2 months + 10% delays = more than 2 years just to restore the original content. Am I correct?
yeah pretty much, don't forget to add in another 4 years just to be safe!
 
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iozturk89

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With regards to pregnant milfs, I'm totally in agreement with you bud. Especially when it comes to getting Debbie pregnant.
But I think the reason that Debbie can't be impregnated is because it would interfere with the current story/game too much (her keeping the child and new content having to be built around her keeping and dealing with that child) or it would too out of character (her giving the child away to daycare when she's a stay-at-home mom that would definitely keep her child).

I also agree about getting all those teacher's pregnant as well. The dev's should also look into adding pregnant sex scenes into the game. It sucks that you can't have sex with a girl you've impregnated until she gives birth.

With regards to making Jenny actually love the MC, I'm all for it too but it has to be really hard to get. In other words, the player (and by extension, the MC) has to run through a lot of hoops to get Jenny to be affectionate and loving towards him.
This is simply because being mean and being a bitch is basically Jenny's entire personality and it should require a lot of work on the player/MC's part to change this.

Also, I think Debbie does finds out about the MC and Jenny's relationship when you impregnate Jenny.
Doesn't Debbie meet the MC and Jenny in the kitchen to talk about Jenny's pregnancy? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Now, I have to say no to your winter idea. The game is called Summertime Saga for a reason. Let's keep it that way.

Also I have to (for the time being) say no to your idea about more female characters (milfs and/or students) being added to the to the game. There are already so many characters that need their stories and content expanded upon: Melonia Rump, Iwanka Rump, Judith, Coach Bridget, Ronda, Annie, Principal Smith, Sara (Captain Terry's Wife), Lucy (Annie's mom), and Beth (Judith's mom).

I believe in quality over quantity. Let's do right by all the girls already in the game before we start adding more.

Lastly, although the idea of inviting girls over to your beach house for some sexy time is a good one. I think the game's story progression currently relies to heavily upon the Debbie and Jenny living at the main house. Thus, your idea about permanently moving them to the beach house is just to unreasonable and unrealistic.

Maybe if you finish Debbie's and Jenny's stories completely, you can move them to the beach house.
But, I'm forced to ask, why? The purpose of having the beach house is so that the MC has a place entirely of his own.
A place he can use to invite any girl he wants over and do whatever he wants without his mom getting in his way.

Screw it though, bro! It's your life!
Who wouldn't want to see Debbie pregnant?
 
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