Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0-wip.5791] [Kompas Productions]

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manneychin said:
None of these would work. Authors would game a system that demands them defining the "guarantees" and there would be endless yapping about "I meant this by that so the condition is met". And forget about a uniform process across all sites.

There is a solution.

For the first year, 50% of any paying-subscriber's monthly pay goes directly to the author, like now, but the other 50% is withheld until work is being released. About a week after work is released Patreon automatically calls all paying-subscribers since the previous release to vote on whether or not the newest work meets expectations (votes are weighted by how many months each voter paid across the interval). The vote is open for a week. If 50%+ of voters say YES, the author gets the other 50% in one big pay-off. Otherwise, the money is split across other Patreon authors, with paying-subscribers having limited control on exactly who gets it (so subscribers can't game the system as money always definitely leaves their hands and they can certainly punish this author but they can't control exactly who else gets the money so they must REALLY want to punish this author).
What happens after a year of not delivering? Paying-subscribers are called to vote on what share of their monthly pay still goes directly to the author: 50% or lower.

This system will GREATLY improve everything about this kind of financing and all thresholds can be tuned to be looser for authors that consistently meet expectations. Authors would be greatly incentivized to deliver often and according to the expectations they themselves set to grow their subscriber base. Voting can also be tuned to adjust the punishment depending on how unhappy paying-subscribers are.

Patreon just has to care about more than policing fantasies and getting their cut.
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No, it's not the solution, because patreon don't give a flying fuck about authors performance. Patreon only cares about money and guidelines, that's all. The solution is here and here.
 
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TFurguson69 said:
How is everything in cuck world? You still hoping for a 2024 release?
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I honestly doubt the update will come out this year. The art and writing tasks aren't even finished yet, you still have one third of the posing and coding tasks unfinished and the whole bug testing/fixing will take at least a couple of months.
 
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DC could have learned to code himself the past few years in-between his drawing and waiting on his coders to complete his updates for him. It's by no means easy to learn how to code, but you can make a lot of strides over years of study and practice. He just has no drive besides drawing, and the money's too good to motivate him to learn how to code if people continue to pay him for nothing but the occasional drawing stream and wallpapers.
 
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Shadesishere said:
I don't know what it is that keeps me coming back to this thread (amusement maybe? the drama?)
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Scientists of the 17th century would have been stunned to discover that the solution to creating a perpetual motion machine was to promise horny nerds porn then just not deliver. :LOL:
NTRCanGoToHell said:
Imagine a world where Summertime Saga not only completes the tech update, but actually manages to have a satisfying conclusion.
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It would be interesting to see whether the post-tech-update plot will still continue to use played out Trump vs. Hillary jokes that were already boring when the game was first announced.
Badjourasmix said:
I honestly doubt the update will come out this year. The art and writing tasks aren't even finished yet, you still have one third of the posing and coding tasks unfinished and the whole bug testing/fixing will take at least a couple of months.
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At this rate I think we'll see The Winds of Winter before STS Tech Update. (I do not believe we will ever see The Winds of Winter.)
VonRaschke said:
DC could have learned to code himself the past few years in-between his drawing and waiting on his coders to complete his updates for him.
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DC had both the time and the cash to literally go to college and get a comp sci degree, then finish STS with time to spare AND have a nice legit normie day job waiting for him if drawing smut ever dries up. I have to conclude he has gambling debt or a drug habit or some such. Maybe the mafia subplot in the game is autobiographical?
 
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Jugurthine said:
I'm here just waiting in excitement to see Count Morado cope, seethe, and mald when he sees the abandoned tag in April.
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Very doubtful as he's the one that first pointed out the April deadline. Even corrected a few posts that thought the abandoned tag came into effect after the first year passed.
 
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Shadesishere said:
I don't know what it is that keeps me coming back to this thread (amusement maybe? the drama?)

either way, at this point I'm honestly curious as to why DC hasn't hired more people to work on the code (the biggest issue from what I can see), and at least try to get this tech update over and done with, as from what I've seen, DC is making art for future updates, which is pushing the coding even further behind.

and yes, I am aware that different coders = different styles/way of doing things, which can impact performance, but frankly, if this keeps up, DC may as well declare the game "as done as it gets" and start working on Wintertime Saga with new staff...
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Wait Wintertime Saga? Is that real or is it a joke?
 
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Shadesishere said:
I don't know what it is that keeps me coming back to this thread (amusement maybe? the drama?)

either way, at this point I'm honestly curious as to why DC hasn't hired more people to work on the code (the biggest issue from what I can see), and at least try to get this tech update over and done with, as from what I've seen, DC is making art for future updates, which is pushing the coding even further behind.

and yes, I am aware that different coders = different styles/way of doing things, which can impact performance, but frankly, if this keeps up, DC may as well declare the game "as done as it gets" and start working on Wintertime Saga with new staff...
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Dc could have hired someone to help with the coding (its still not late to do so), cause there is always someone that can do same type of coding has current coder, he state that its not needed cause things are going well and good speed and we seeing it other way, i mean tech update its far from being done, what im more curious is what makes people pay every month to get nothing back.
 
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exirock said:
Dc could have hired someone to help with the coding (its still not late to do so), cause there is always someone that can do same type of coding has current coder, he state that its not needed cause things are going well and good speed and we seeing it other way, i mean tech update its far from being done, what im more curious is what makes people pay every month to get nothing back.
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And what I'm curious is what DC pays his coder. He's either a lazy one, or paid s*it and that's why he puts little or no effort on it, or the so-called tech-update won't happen in years because the previous coding can't be fixed at the actual state. What's clear it's that DC is investing no patreon resources in his own game and people should have already realized it long time ago. After all these years the game should have got at least some voice acting.
 
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