PayneToTheMax

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Yeah, somewhere in 2017 or some, they was ideed promising projects, especially SS. Such WAFF atmosphere was quite refreshing. And artsyle is cute. I watched his streams on a regular basis. Until he start telling how he cut his something coz his wife didn't want to use contraceptives. I found this very wierd and stupid - and for some strange coincidence (not very) things got worse from there. He kepp telling about how story is 95% finished and all he need to do - is remaining art and coding. Then suddenly story got darker with mafia and shit, and for me personally it kinda spoiled the overal atmosphere, so I even stopped following the project at all. Imagine my reaction when years later I found outt, thet not only he did not finished a game, but almost no progress was made - only Eve and some minor updates.
And for shitpurple - I found out pretty quickly his shitty nature. One of members mentioned Breeding season, one thing led to another and i found a way to former devs chat and some interesting screens from that time. And boy oh boy what a discussions there was!
And at the same time a saw how shitpurple draws shit during his streams - shit, that not even closely connected to Cloud Meadow, or for whatevs reasons redraws old stuff, that is in game already - while there is only empty updates. Years later I cheked the project status only to find there is 0 progress, version naming changed(second time?),his team changed(again), one of lead animators left(again) and he still redraws stuff(third time? tenth time?) and draws some random shit.
It's probably very very very rare that a dev doesn't eventually fall prey to the almighty dollar one way or another. Sucks, but what can you do?

Ultimately, though, DC was smart enough to have a donation pool that's tied to 'doing something' and not specifically 'pay to get game', which is what I've argued in the past. He essentially takes advantage of people being easy to get to donate, and isn't specifically scamming them out of the game itself. Semantics, I suppose, but rules are made out of that. And can't get his ass if he isn't really breaking any rules.

"It's called a hustle." to quote a certain Disney movie.
 

Vakul

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It's probably very very very rare that a dev doesn't eventually fall prey to the almighty dollar one way or another. Sucks, but what can you do?

Ultimately, though, DC was smart enough to have a donation pool that's tied to 'doing something' and not specifically 'pay to get game', which is what I've argued in the past. He essentially takes advantage of people being easy to get to donate, and isn't specifically scamming them out of the game itself. Semantics, I suppose, but rules are made out of that. And can't get his ass if he isn't really breaking any rules.

"It's called a hustle." to quote a certain Disney movie.
I dunno, for me it is not about breaking rules, it is about actual outcome. If there is no game after all these years - this is shitty dev, even if there is people who loves tho eat shit. As for him being smart - don't think so. If he was smart, he'd completed the game and started another project. Or at least he could make separate chapters, which would made a whole project management several times easier. That way he could keep his milk farm AND have a good reputation of responsible developer. But he choose the dumb milk route. It is a one-way road now.
His only possible outcoms:
1) losing patrons sooner or later, coz of they suddenly get +1 INT,
2) complete game years later and losing patrons coz of them not wanting to support another 10+ year project.
3) making super efforts to fix his reputation, for which he's got nor the smarts, nor the balls.
 
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Count Morado

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Anyone think this game will actually finish some day?
No. Not even the developer. He has said as such since 2017:


Also, see this:
Here's the clip (I decided to pull it from the VOD when I read your post). Note his vision of 100, 200, 300 total characters in the game. There is no plan to end the development of this game at any foreseeable time.
I included captions (ai created) for those who can read and kept the audio available for those who cannot (low res because of 10MB limit for attachments on F95, also audio is a bit muddied).
 
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JFer3333

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Anyone think this game will actually finish some day?
This is an endless game, the dev/writers can extend this forever, but the main story, the story of Anon is done, so by the end we'll only get re-draws and side stories, in resume the game is done, maybe a sequel or a main character change would be more interest.
 
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SCynic

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It only gets funnier! They just keep proving my point! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
This game needs a "SCAM" TAG...now.
And this is no joke. I paid for years to this Scammer, for nothing. 75% of the Game was made in the first year. Then for years, development slowed down to 0. We need to prevent people to support him, this is the only way to become him working on it again. This update absolutely shows the last 3 years happened nothing, F95zone depends on his Users more than on some Scam-Devs, so do something for the users and add a...SCAM -TAG NOW!

You paid for years for because YOU convinced YOURSELF you were paying for development when the dude NEVER said that was the case. The game has ALWAYS been completely FREE! Perhaps in the beginning he was using Patreon to supplement his income and allow him to spend more time on the game, but the game WAS STILL FREE! You never paid for the game or it's development, but you convinced yourself you did! Donations, and that's exactly what they are, are not payments for development speed, they are solely people tipping the dude for doing what they find amusing, like a street artist or musician. Patreon just happens to be subscription based, but you can stop any time. You scammed yourself!



To warn newbies who came here for the first time and just saw the screenshots, maybe?
Milk machine must be stopped. With or without breaking a keyboard with a milkers faces.
Oh what a Pillar of the community we have here. Just a fixture and stalwart role model for the people. On a porn game piracy forum. Truly, you have taken a stand in life and become a shining beacon of steadfast and upright morality. Especially when you and others call people (who are fully entitled to spend their own money how the heck they please without hearing your opinions or objections) fools, sheep, or say they are brainwashed because they are supporting someone you don't. It's almost as if what you say about it has no actual bearing on what people are going to do, whether those people are DC or his supporters.


Do I approve of the way DC is handling things right now? No. I don't. But I haven't deluded myself into thinking that my opinion factors into his decision-making, nor in the decision-making of the people who subscribe to him. I play the game from time to time, get a little kick out of it, and then move on. Come back a month, two, or even a year later. And give no energy or brain power to "Teaching that guy a thing or two". especially when he made me no promises. And even if he had, he changed his mind. As if people everywhere don't do that.

You people are wasting your lives, tilting at a windmill that ignores you completely, or at best, laughs at your ridiculous sense of self importance. Move on. Grab a beer. go watch a movie or something.
 

Bryan AC

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ok, I downloaded his newest version (ok, the one before this one, I haven't gotten this one yet) where he switched to unity I think? Whatever it is, is it just me, or does most of the stuff not work?
 
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Count Morado

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ok, I downloaded his newest version (ok, the one before this one, I haven't gotten this one yet) where he switched to unity I think? Whatever it is, is it just me, or does most of the stuff not work?
It's still RenPy. Not all the old content has been migrated to the new code with the new display ratio, etc.
is there more content about Judith other than mini route
Not at this time.
 
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Fayrus

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Given he cut his something somewhere near 2018, coz he is sheateater who can't use contraceptives, I seriously doubt his grandkid will be intelligent enough to pronounce "galaxy"
Fuck, can't stop laughing hahahah
 

Fayrus

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It's probably very very very rare that a dev doesn't eventually fall prey to the almighty dollar one way or another. Sucks, but what can you do?

Ultimately, though, DC was smart enough to have a donation pool that's tied to 'doing something' and not specifically 'pay to get game', which is what I've argued in the past. He essentially takes advantage of people being easy to get to donate, and isn't specifically scamming them out of the game itself. Semantics, I suppose, but rules are made out of that. And can't get his ass if he isn't really breaking any rules.

"It's called a hustle." to quote a certain Disney movie.
I would say Disney itself haha.
 
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The Black Cat

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The Supporters are always gonna post their defenses. This was one of my fave games and it introduced me to Adult Games. Then, nothing. Dude is now just retracing the shit he made before. Other Devs, and the Adult Game industry have moved well beyond him. But so many still cling to hope. Enough for him to have a nice salary while not even thinking about you.
Our hands are all tied and tied tightly. We have to wait for what DarkCookie releases as and when he wants.

MRS. SMITH by shapeof.

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Fayrus

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Well I love how the counter argument is "Something something OH SO WE DON'T GET TO HAVE OPINIONS!!?? HAHAHA SIMP!!!" no. youre positing your opinion as objective fact like everyone else seems to try to do, and play defense when naturally someone disagrees. its just a disagreement.
Sites like these were made to get around paywalls. users of this site make free games for it, because they want their idea to get seen and Summertime Saga isn't connected to this site in that way.

How does gaining more "simps" get the game more money? I'm not subscribed and haven't been. are you? I just like the game. in my opinion btw.

This IS enjoying freedom of speech you weird american. you say some shit, someone tells you some shit, shit starts flinging. you being covered in shit is not a bug, its a feature. grow to appreciate the shit you love to talk.
Alright, something tells me that, not only you didn't read what I said, you also took it personall (and that's all you, can't do anything about that) and started attacking me, not my argument. To the point of being xenophobic (don't get me wrong, for someone to say that I am or sound as an "american", I take it as a compliment. I mean.. technically I AM, but I know how you meant it).

The only objective point that I was trying to make, is that you should be able to say what you want to say without someone attacking you or silence you, out of nowhere (more often than not, it is always the same people... ), constantly, repeatedly, and in every comment.. is tiresome and enfuriating to see.

For me, I love debates and I have no problems with insults, but I think we need to be somewhat civil. That being said, we can't ignore that there are rules in this beatiful site, and we need to follow them. So as long as we stay in those criteria, it should be fine.

Sooo yeah, keep at it mate, knock yourself out! Don't let the world stop you!! Open your wings and fly!! fly me beautiful beautiful little goose!

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Man, what a shame, this game had so much potential, but it doesn't even have sound effects... at least I want to hear those cake splash! The other day I tried an oldy one I've found here, from 2016, and it had sound effects!!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Omg, it's unbelievable to see a "project" like summertime saga on this condition after all this time. There are no excuses :cry:.
 

Fayrus

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The Supporters are always gonna post their defenses. This was one of my fave games and it introduced me to Adult Games. Then, nothing. Dude is now just retracing the shit he made before. Other Devs, and the Adult Game industry have moved well beyond him. But so many still cling to hope. Enough for him to have a nice salary while not even thinking about you.
Yep, it's really sad man, how I see it, it is tragedy. And what's even worse, it's starting to become a standar for the constant growing media. And keep it coming mate, it is awesome to read honest criticisms on the "updates".
 

BobBoober

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You paid for years for because YOU convinced YOURSELF you were paying for development when the dude NEVER said that was the case. The game has ALWAYS been completely FREE! Perhaps in the beginning he was using Patreon to supplement his income and allow him to spend more time on the game, but the game WAS STILL FREE! You never paid for the game or it's development, but you convinced yourself you did! Donations, and that's exactly what they are, are not payments for development speed, they are solely people tipping the dude for doing what they find amusing, like a street artist or musician. Patreon just happens to be subscription based, but you can stop any time. You scammed yourself!
You're just making a fool of yourself... he still claims that... see here:

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He hase so many pledges now, i cant belive its still his 2.Job ;)
Your verbal outpourings speak of childish impetuosity is embarrassing.
 

PayneToTheMax

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You're just making a fool of yourself... he still claims that... see here:

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He hase so many pledges now, i cant belive its still his 2.Job ;)
Your verbal outpourings speak of childish impetuosity is embarrassing.
In that regard, it's not wrong. He definitely isn't doing freelance work. So he's keeping true to his promise. :Kappa:
 
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