Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

[j4yj4m]

Yeah, I don't get this. Its obvious that she wasn't asleep and was waiting to see how far MC was going to go.

I'd guess the main reason is simply that it doesn't fit her new story. The scene itself was part of this really bad "trial and error" story design and I'm fairly certain they got rid of that completely. Since it the scene was really old and had to be redone, they probably had the choice to either redo it without that much purpose or to spend that time on something else. DC talked about the option of letting that scene stay in its unreworked form as an extra - but nobody knows if that's going to happen or not. I'd personally guess it won't.

 

[Jonboy80]

I'd guess the main reason is simply that it doesn't fit her new story. The scene itself was part of this really bad "trial and error" story design and I'm fairly certain they got rid of that completely. Since it the scene was really old and had to be redone, they probably had the choice to either redo it without that much purpose or to spend that time on something else. DC talked about the option of letting that scene stay in it's unreworked form as an extra - but nobody knows if that's going to happen or not. I'd personally guess it won't.

Good point. No telling how differently the story plays out now.

 

[Deleted member 662393]

I don't really know where that 6 months figure comes from, though. It's 131 days right now which broadly equals 4 months and a few days (if one wants to be generous one should indeed subtract 1 or 2 weeks christmas holidays, which I guess he earned himself). That means we'll get 0.18 after 4,5 months and not 6.

I mean, sure, one can argue about 2 or 3 weeks but I doubt those will really make a difference to most.


This update =)

Oh shit but I'm still sad that there was no preggo sex with diane so my hopes are not high XD

 

[Stay Frosty]

Don't know how much longer I can wait for this update lmao

 

[Deleted member 662393]

And so, he has a profit of $ 53k for April, of which Patreon receives a -5% tax, we get $ 50,350, we divide it into 5 people, we get 10.070 per 1 employee. Apparently this is a very small amount, since the issues each time more and more come out.
Further more, 135 days have passed since the release of version 0.17.5. At the moment, version 0.18.0 is 98% ready. As a result, 1.32% is done per day.
Apparently all the same $ 50k is really a small amount for 5 people to release the game faster ...

I highly doubt a simple coder gets the same cut as he does but did you ever hear about taxes and how high they are if you earn that much lmao?

 

[j4yj4m]

Good point. No telling how differently the story plays out now.

Yeah, we'll know very soon. In those other new stories, like Roxxy or Diane for example, every step makes sense and the player will usually know what to do, simply by playing the game. I'd expect the same for Jenny's new story.

Oh shit but I'm still sad that there was no preggo sex with diane so my hopes are not high XD

Yes, Jenny won't get those scenes either - and for a very long time (maybe even for ever) nobody will. DC should probably have limited pregnancies to maybe 2, 3 or 4 characters and spend the time he saved not drawing all those other characters on making some good scenes for those few who can get pregnant. Sure, some people wouldn't be happy because their favourite character was left out, but I'm sure it would have been beneficial for the game as a whole.

 

[globblog]

If there is one bug on release I will cry bullshit to the amount of bugs fixed.

 

[jowishg]

The deed is done, the trap has finally leaked. MC will find a body swap potion.

hahahah omg that will haunt me forever

 

[Qoruto]

Well, the prime idea of being a patron is to support a creator, that means if I enjoy the content created by that person/group I will donate to show my enjoyment towards him. When I tried Summertime Saga for the first time I had this urge of supporting him, but I knew that it would become what it is today, so I didn't support him. I don't really blame him, I think it's obvious that he's delaying the patch so he can have more income, at least until he starts to see his numbers going down. Can we judge him for that? Not really. He's trying to make a living out of this and he's trying to make as much as he can while it lasts, because nothing is forever. And no, there's no contradiction in what I'm saying, I would have supported him if he was honest from the start. Like I said, there's nothing wrong in doing what he does right now, just don't hide it; don't say that the patch is almost done when it's not, don't say a lot of things that are not true, just be honest.

 

[Jackie123]

If there is one bug on release I will cry bullshit to the amount of bugs fixed.

They are fixing more bugs in SS. Than pubg and fortnite can’t even fix....

 

[zeppelin]

That still doesn't make any sense. A .5 update is not half of an update, and a 1.0 is not a full update. A .1 is a full update, a .11 is a full update, a .45 is a full update, every update is a full update. DC simply updates via .5s instead of round numbers.

I was under the impression that the sister update was supposed to be 1 and he broke it in 2 releases. Isn't that right?

 

[j4yj4m]

I was under the impression that the sister update was supposed to be 1 and he broke it in 2 releases. Isn't that right?

Likely not. We'll get the "full" Jenny update with 0.18.0 and 0.18.5 will add some additional sex scenes with Jenny, which you can unlock once her story is done. It's framed like they decided pretty late into making the update that they'd want more scenes for her. If you want to be negative, you may argue that they had planned those scenes all along, although the tracker wouldn't support that, as they did not remove any content for 0.18.0 from there. So it's probably indeed as DC said it is, and they simply decided that Jenny needed some more sex. The lack thereof is by the way something many people didn't like about Diane's update and thus one could argue, that it's indeed a reaction to those critics.

 

[SCynic]

Well, the prime idea of being a patron is to support a creator, that means if I enjoy the content created by that person/group I will donate to show my enjoyment towards him. When I tried Summertime Saga for the first time I had this urge of supporting him, but I knew that it would become what it is today, so I didn't support him. I don't really blame him, I think it's obvious that he's delaying the patch so he can have more income, at least until he starts to see his numbers going down. Can we judge him for that? Not really. He's trying to make a living out of this and he's trying to make as much as he can while it lasts, because nothing is forever. And no, there's no contradiction in what I'm saying, I would have supported him if he was honest from the start. Like I said, there's nothing wrong in doing what he does right now, just don't hide it; don't say that the patch is almost done when it's not, don't say a lot of things that are not true, just be honest.

See, the most important part of your post is when you said, "I think..." That tells us that everything g you said in the post is an opinion, and thus not based in fact. It's based upon what you would do in DC's position, which has no bearing on the actual situation.

No one but DC himself and the dev team truly know what goes on behind the scenes, what the update schedule should be and when the game will be finished. any and all speculation is therefore pointless.

But people will keep doing it, and and calling DC greedy and all, mostly because they themselves are impatient and greedy themselves.

 

[Oriandu]

I highly doubt a simple coder gets the same cut as he does but did you ever hear about taxes and how high they are if you earn that much lmao?

You are aware that a "simple coder" is the highest paid member of any professional development team, right? More than artists, writers, modelers and in some cases even section leads make less than a programmer would on a projection. "Simple code" makes or breaks any and all game development.

 

[Buzz007]

Who cares how it takes DC to release a new version ? It's for free.

 

[Ungawa]

You are aware that a "simple coder" is the highest paid member of any professional development team, right? More than artists, writers, modelers and in some cases even section leads make less than a programmer would on a projection. "Simple code" makes or breaks any and all game development.

The programmers make up the bulk of anything. Artists are more highly specialized and command a higher pay from their base knowledge of coding + architecture or whatever they're working on. Modelers would fit right about with artists.

This doesn't even get into software engineers, or the other highly specialized types of programming that can command a higher pay to make the game run far more efficiently. I would highly suggest you not use this as a model because this can change from structure to structure. For example, EA and Activision are not really well known for how they pay their programmers due to inordinate crunch and Valve has the workers

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I won't even get into the indie places who run their own little structures and businesses which gives them different areas of overlap.

Let's just say that there's as many ways to do this as there are stars in the sky and call it a day.

 

[Chucked_Sandwich]

Good point. No telling how differently the story plays out now.

That'll be the post update argument. which Jenny story was better, the new one or the old one. stay tuned.

 

[Laziness]

That'll be the post update argument. which Jenny story was better, the new one or the old one. stay tuned.

Good thing is the house won't get demolished like in Diane's update, so the same locations and positions can still come back for this one.

 

[Ungawa]

That'll be the post update argument. which Jenny story was better, the new one or the old one. stay tuned.

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[Francis8rock]

See, the most important part of your post is when you said, "I think..." That tells us that everything g you said in the post is an opinion, and thus not based in fact. It's based upon what you would do in DC's position, which has no bearing on the actual situation.

No one but DC himself and the dev team truly know what goes on behind the scenes, what the update schedule should be and when the game will be finished. any and all speculation is therefore pointless.

But people will keep doing it, and and calling DC greedy and all, mostly because they themselves are impatient and greedy themselves.

And everything you just said is opinion, and thus not based on fact. See how easy that is People call DC greedy because everything he does has a weird coincidence of making him more money. Devs are on Patreon to make money. Hell, while pulling in 50k a month he changed his tier rewards to take away wallpapers from people who have been supporting him for years.

That had nothing to do with money though right. It was his artistic expression that drove that decision. As an artist he just didn't want so many of his supporters to see his art, unless they want to pay more for it that is..

The ridiculousness is at an all time high lol. As for the impatient and greedy part you don't have to be impatient and greedy to know what something is when you see it. I don't really have a problem with greed when it comes to something like this if people want to give him the money. I personally don't give a shit if people want to give him that much money or how long it takes for the updates to come out.

That does not however mean I am going to pretend everything he does isn't to make as much money as he can. That would just be dumb.