Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

[Jonboy80]

You are already looking for extremes, Roxxy was nothing at all, a couple of simple scenes that gave nothing. I will repeat the question that you ignore, why did start to redraw? Why did they remove the branch with Diana and replace it with some sort of trash? Why bother to release any new characters when the old ones have been standing still for several years?

If all you're looking for is sex scenes, then yes. But, as I said earlier, I feel like DC is trying to show that AIF can be so much more than spank fodder. Roxxy's character development was amazing in her update. She was a character I had little interest in, being the perfect, blonde, popular girl. but, but the end of her story, she showed herself as being more than tha, that she lived a rough life with an alcoholic mother and weird-o cousin, that her relationship was abusive with Dexter and that she was loyal to her friends.

If this genre of gaming is ever going to get a proper shot at becoming more mainstream and acceptable, we have to stop looking at these games as little more than jerk-off material.

As for why new characters are being worked on and old ones being changed, that's because that's what the patrons voted for. The ones funding this game.

 

[dexterblood]

If this genre of gaming is ever going to get a proper shot at becoming more mainstream and acceptable, we have to stop looking at these games as little more than jerk-off material.

Lets be honest here, its never going mainstream and it is and will remian jerf off material. Look at Dead & Alive series, great gameplay but focus on too much tits destroyed its reputation. Also what does this game even have other than sex scenes that we can consider a non hentai game? The awful minigames?

 

[Jonboy80]

Lets be honest here, its never going mainstream and it is and will remian jerf off material. Look at Dead & Alive series, great gameplay but focus on too much tits destroyed its reputation. Also what does this game even have other than sex scenes that we can consider a non hentai game? The awful minigames?

The decent writing and characters that you can actually be interested in. 90% of pornographics games are little more than charcaters that you quickly get in the sack after speaking to them twice.

 

[dexterblood]

So, with that logic, a street artist who is working on a road painting has to draw faster the more people he attracts and the more tip he gets, yes? That makes perfect sense. Not.

It's not DC's fault that people apparently like the game so much to donate all that money. Where in that whole concept is it said that he has to work faster only because people throw their mony at him?

The artist isint providing a product, DC is. There is a difference between a charity and funding a product.

 

[FamousPotato]

Another day, another 10 pages, 8 checking about how much he makes and complaining about it, 2 complaining about the release date...
Just like every day for the last... I lost count.

 

[dexterblood]

The decent writing and characters that you can actually be interested in. 90% of pornographics games are little more than charcaters that you quickly get in the sack after speaking to them twice.

Folks arent paying for a character development which is passible at best, if they wanted that, they could just read a book. People are essentialy paying for living steroytpes getting their brains banged out.

 

[Jonboy80]

Folks arent paying for a character development which is passible at best, if they wanted that, they could just read a book. People are essentialy paying for living steroytpes getting their brains banged out.

Some are. But, by that reasoning, so many people wouldn't be tipping/paying DC for the product he's making. If that's all people wanted, they'd be paying others even more for games with quick updates to spank material. The fact that he's getting so much for a game with quality updates that have you work a bit before you start banging tends to go against what you say.

 

[Mr.Qaywesdxc]

DEV TRACKER UPDATE!
Thanks for your likes and enjoy! (the dev tracker not moving - that two tasks still to do is starting pissing me off; this is unbelievable)

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[Jonboy80]

You confuse porn VN and a philosophical novel about the hard life of adolescents. Also, apparently, for you this is something unusual and exciting, for me it is a common routine of gray reality, not all are born in full-fledged families. As mentioned above, if you remove porn from the game (which keeps it), it will cease to be so popular. Let's go back to Roxy, this character was just put into the game and simultaneously thrown into the face of her friends, the story was just buried, they did it "As soon as Roxy fucked, and then immediately her friends" compared to the initial releases, which were better developed both scenarioally and graphically, it looks like an attempt to do everything in a couple of weeks, after months of rest, so to speak, deadline.
And something tells me that talking about redrawing did not carry the idea of copy-paste, I previously laid out a post where absolutely 2 identical characters with different hairstyles.

If you pull anything from any game, it changes it. If you pulled the time/travel mechanic from Life Is Strange, would you still care about the game as much? Probably not. It's the common routine of a teenage girl in private school.

Yes, SS is a pornographic game. I've never said otherwise. But it's a pornagraphic game with more to it than just sex. And it's done fairly well. Much better than the "I'm a peasant boy who found an amulet that made me irresistable to all women" type of story we commonly see. Just like some people like pornographic movies with a plot (even if it's bad) and others just want a compilation of scenes so they can blow their load more quickly, so too do some people want an adult visual novel that's worth spending more than ten minutes playing.

I'm going to assume you didn't grow up during the period of TADS, Adrift and other text engines used to make these sorts of stories before the likes of Unity, Ren'py, etc. There were some great choose your own adventure novels written in those engines. Or, prior to that, an actual book you held in your hand and read. And, no, I'm not talking about Hustler or Penthouse but a bonafide erotic novel. People want that back, coupled with nice artwork to go along with it.

 

[j4yj4m]

And something tells me that talking about redrawing did not carry the idea of copy-paste, I previously laid out a post where absolutely 2 identical characters with different hairstyles.

That's obviously because they are supposed to be twin sisters. So they will of course look very similar, though

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[401Grem]

It's funny cause you're actually not even taking into account that Komaps is a company and thus is taxed way higher than individuals. Just stirring the pot.

They don't care about the facts, as long as they can get away with talking shit about people and causing discord among the forum members. Certain persons here who were promoting other games in this thread, have made it their mission, to bring harm to this dev and the development of this game.

 

[Ungawa]

Lets be honest here, its never going mainstream and it is and will remian jerf off material. Look at Dead & Alive series, great gameplay but focus on too much tits destroyed its reputation. Also what does this game even have other than sex scenes that we can consider a non hentai game? The awful minigames?

Bad example. Dead or Alive has Tecmo, a publisher that nickel and dimes their customers to death along with the wrong spank fodder (their newest character is a devil loli instead of a muscle tits girl).

Now if you EVER look up Itagaki's reputation before he was pushed out of Tecmo, you'll see exactly what he liked in working on DoA as well as Ninja Gaiden. Freakishly hard games with male and female fanservice. So risk and reward were high for what you had to learn from it.

Now if you want to get into the minigames here, the basketball one is some bullshit. They should change that to the letter stuff for the fight, have it so that they have stills of your success and failures be that it shows you breaking ankles or getting stuffed and never do that shit again. But I digress.

 

[jackkane]

Talent show Eve. More like ugly twin, pretty twin.

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hmm looks he made eve thicker

 

[King Monkey Mon]

hmm looks he made eve thicker

whos your favorite girl in this game mine is Eve but my second favorite girl is Roxy then its the milfs

 

[jackkane]

whos your favorite girl in this game mine is Eve but my second favorite girl is Roxy then its the milfs

roxxy,and close 2nd is the principal.

 

[Jonboy80]

Well, apparently this argument will never end.
Then I have a series of logical questions:
1. Older versions are more saturated both graphically and plotted, came out more often, what has changed?
2. The concept of a sister does not give a 100% guarantee of similarity, since they will be different, height, body shape, hair, etc., we have obvious twins who looked differently at early stages, do you think this is a qualitative redrawing?
3. Regarding Ren'py, now only lazy does not do on this engine, at that moment when RPGMaker's was thoroughly buried, not to mention more complex engines, the number of one-day authors who made it appear, raised money and ran away even on this site going off scale, apparently not so much so hard on him to rivet the game.
4. Every time I have to go through the game again, it seems very cool for you, to wipe up holes that you already saw in 2016?
5. Just after I saw the new artwork, I canceled a paid subscription that lasted more than 15 months, or you are very rich, or do not pay at all once you are tired. Once you ignore it?

1. The size of updates have changed. You're confusing working at the same speed with releases happening at the same frequency. Obviously, if one works at the same speed but has more work to do, it takes longer to finish. And no, past updates weren't as large as newer ones. I've been playing since .10 or so, and I can see that updates are larger than they were.

2. Twins can look identical, similar or very different. I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Many characters have been redesigned. There was even an image of all of them floating around a couple weeks ago. It's not as though only Dianne and Debbie were redrawn. Eve, her sister, the nun, the guy at the car dealership, etc. are few of the ones being redesigned.

3. Not sure what you're saying here so I won't comment on it.

4. Blame the Patrons. It's a common complaint in the forums but Patrons have chosen not to vote for save compatibility in favor of new content. That being said, DC has been supplying a save file with all old content completed since .16 or so on the game download page of the site. That way, you can start on the new stuff immediately.

5. I find a couple of dollars a month not very much money. I don't have to be super rich to support the game. I've been a patron for, I think, eight months or so.

 

[steelsmiter]

Can you impregnate the mom and sister yet?

 

[lypsyl]

Can you impregnate the mom and sister yet?

No, just the aunt. The sister will be next update. It's 99% finished.

 

[ThirdManX]

Been following the project since 0.1, and seen a lot of things evolve.

This is a F2P, if you pay (support on patreon) or not and play it, that makes you a customer.
Kompas, which is own by Dark Cookie, is a company and the company product until now is Summertime Saga in early access.
The people helping him aren't most likely volunteers but employees.

And it tells how much this project has grown from someone doing this on his spare time to a company trying to pull out a full product.

Opinion time start.
I wish DC manage to finish his project but the project got out of his hands, I mean this has become too big for his way of processing things. More work doesn't always implie more dev time, like more money doesn't always implie less dev time.
It all relies on management, and from what I've seen since 2016, this isn't what DC is good at (sorry DC but you must face it).
This project doesn't need 46 artists, 58 devs and so on ..., it needs a real project manager that can pull up real tasks (and not that non sense they give to patrons) with deadlines cause without deadlines you have procrastination.
For this project to not finish like any other from the same genre, DC should be proactive and not reactive.
Opinion time end.

Btw if anyone can tell me why pledging to his patreon advertise at every tiers "Early access releases" as an advantage since everyone got the releases at the same time and for free ?

 

[Hank Moody]

Not surprising to see people still defending the greed

Pretty sad to see it though

If Summertime Saga was the best game I could understand it a bit more. But its not the best game and other devs release better products in a much shorter amount of time