thestickman

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I don't even understand the point of IVY in the game. You have sex with so many people for various storyline reasons, what is the point of a rando chick just to fuck. I mean it's another option, but it doesn't really add anything to the game.
She was created pretty early on when there weren't so many people to have sex with. Now, yes, it's kind of pointless, but back then she was one of the few.
 

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I don't even understand the point of IVY in the game. You have sex with so many people for various storyline reasons, what is the point of a rando chick just to fuck. I mean it's another option, but it doesn't really add anything to the game.
She will have a little part on some of the major stories, just like all the minor characters. Although the sex with her is a bit pointless, but it was one of the first thing he did when the game was not supposed to be anything big.
 
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Totally agree with you. Totally.

Old chicks look younger now.

Young chicks look like dolls now.

BUMMER
They call it improvement..officially...but in truth this is heavily simplified art so that *cough cough* animator can handle better the animation. Old art was more detailed and had better peculiar vibe to it, now its all "smoothed out"

I dont know, I just think he fucked up with the animator pick, there are so many good guys around here EXTREMELY good animators but he picked some cheapskate thats barely scraping by no wonder why... its shame because there are funds to hire someone real good, but I can also imagine the reigning "mood" in the team that they would prefer to pay someone inexperienced than hire big one
 
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She will have a little part on some of the major stories, just like all the minor characters. Although the sex with her is a bit pointless, but it was one of the first thing he did when the game was not supposed to be anything big.
if i remember well,she was a plus,since her content came all at once and was never meddled with till now,which is kinda different from Cassie for example,since she is part of Rhonda update that wasnt picked on last poll,so the additions on her content(as in a lot of older characters)should be more to give her something more while other update doesnt comes(and probably renew her part on the code and add some animations on her content)...
 
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if i remember well,she was a plus,since her content came all at once and was never meddled with till now,which is kinda different from Cassie for example,since she is part of Rhonda update that wasnt picked on last poll,so the additions on her content(as in a lot of older characters)should be more to give her something more while other update doesnt comes(and probably renew her part on the code and add some animations on her content)...
Currently, they have simple 2 frame animations, and he wants to improve that. Ivy has a small role in Diane's update though, so she got reworked for this one, where as you said, Cassie is coming later.

In other news, we will eventually get more content for the other teachers as well, maybe with the Gym teacher's update.
 

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dunno if anyone noticed,but Diane tits sag more than Debbie tits,which would mean her tits are heavier than Debbie tits,but in their scene on the pool,Diane tits float while Debbie tits sink....i think that or DC let that error slip,or Debbie tits are made of lead....some strange and firm lead,since her tits on the old model sagged less than Diane's....
 
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dunno if anyone noticed,but Diane tits sag more than Debbie tits,which would mean her tits are heavier than Debbie tits,but in their scene on the pool,Diane tits float while Debbie tits sink....i think that or DC let that error slip,or Debbie tits are made of lead....some strange and firm lead,since her tits on the old model sagged less than Diane's....
I don't think he has been that consistent until now. Up to now the art has been a bit all over the place depending on when it was added but I guess there's a good chance he'll fix those things now that we'll get a slow rework of most characters and scenes. In the end they are supposed to be twins so they should be more or less equal. :X

But I guess there's nothing wrong with point it out to him on discord in case it really bothers you.
 

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dunno if anyone noticed,but Diane tits sag more than Debbie tits,which would mean her tits are heavier than Debbie tits,but in their scene on the pool,Diane tits float while Debbie tits sink....i think that or DC let that error slip,or Debbie tits are made of lead....some strange and firm lead,since her tits on the old model sagged less than Diane's....
Maybe because she is milked regularly, they sag more but are lighter! :winkytongue: Maybe we should keep Debby away from that machine after all!
 

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according to me Dark Cookie is making a mess with Debbie, there will be many inconsistencies, in practice in 0.17 there will be two Debbie, the old model for its history, new model when interacting with Diane, it can not be otherwise because insert the new model also in its history would like to redo all his scenes of sex, the new model has not only different face but also the physical (tits smaller and firm and hips a little wider), then for heaven's sake that I'm wrong ( I'm not a programmer)

I am very, very doubtful


(Sorry my english )
 

j4yj4m

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according to me Dark Cookie is making a mess with Debbie, there will be many inconsistencies, in practice in 0.17 there will be two Debbie, the old model for its history, new model when interacting with Diane, it can not be otherwise because insert the new model also in its history would like to redo all his scenes of sex, the new model has not only different face but also the physical (tits smaller and firm and hips a little wider), then for heaven's sake that I'm wrong ( I'm not a programmer)

I am very, very doubtful
They are changing all characters to a new "rig system" where body, arms and facial expressions are different layers, which are meant to be combined for different poses. That's meant to reduce the size of the game and to add flexibility. Else he seems to have set himself a standard now to which all characters will be raised. That does indeed mean that quite a bit of stuff has to be redone during those next updates. In the end it's, as always, a matter of the time that's available. The only other options would be to either not introcude the threesome now or spend additional time on reworking most of her other art as well. He could certainly do that and it would shorten her final update but I'm not sure if many patreons are willing to wait additional weeks. I think in Debbie's case we'll be fine since her art didn't change that much.

In the end we are talking about a game in development and there'll always have to be compromises until everything is done - sadly.
 

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Whatever the reason, I feel the updates are coming way slower now. Was actually wondering if there was a specific reason for the hold-up on the upcoming release.
to be honest i share you pain about this the reason being ive come to realize that by the time eve who imo the best girl is (in the school settings) her content will be out judging on the rate of release dates it will be out close to the end of next year
 

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Was a rework of all the characters really needed? No one really had issues with the appeal with the previous art of the characters (Eve, Jenny, Debbie, Roxxy and Diane).
 

j4yj4m

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Was a rework of all the characters really needed? No one really had issues with the appeal with the previous art of the characters (Eve, Jenny, Debbie, Roxxy and Diane).
I guess the answer is yes and no. What apparantly was needed is the adaption to the new "rig system" so the options would have been to either use the old sprites/characters and adapt them to the new system or do a complete rework. As far as I see it, DC seemed somewhat bothered by some of his own old art and preferred the rework to get the same quality for all characters. Now everybody has at least the correct hight, everybody is less orange, etc.

I'd agree that it's quite a bit of addtional work which seems like a waste of time but given that it's going to benefit the size and overall quality of the game it's probably worth it. I personally really like most of the new characters and was indeed somewhat bothered by some old stuff, like Roxxy's and Jenny's face, Judith's boobs, etc.
 

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I'm actually ok with most of the re-works. It's still a work in progress too, so no need to get the pitchforks lit up so quickly.

Every drawing of Debbie's side profile has always irked me. It always looks really off. That's why I always hated the kissing scenes with her. It doesn't match her front very well. I hope with these future changes @DarkCookie fixes that.

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I'm actually ok with most of the re-works. It's still a work in progress too, so no need to get the pitchforks lit up so quickly.

Every drawing of Debbie's side profile has always irked me. It always looks really off. That's why I always hated the kissing scenes with her. It doesn't match her front very well. I hope with these future changes @DarkCookie fixes that.

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Everyone looks weird when they are viewed from the side. The MC specifically, he looks like a 40 year old cocaine addict from the side.
 
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