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I mean if i can fuck a milf in the game LMAO the mom the aunt the mother of the nerd , the fucking bitch that is a bully all that crap and the girl who likes rap

because all the times i played the history was

" WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT UPDATE, or, IN CONSTRUCTION , or DONATE MORE MONEY OR I WILL ABANDON THE GAME "

that kind of question

im not fuckign lying you, i dont know from what time you know this game but i swear i saw this game for first time in 2016 and i think you can't fuck the mom yet, because the dev is more busy adding new things that will be remain incompleted as the mom i know it
Must've been a while since you played then....
 
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Must've been a while since you played then....

sorry but you are right, im busy downloading incompleted games that once had my attention,

big brother - abandoned
sarah's life - abandoned
the twist - 4 years or so, incompleted yet
summer time saga - incompleted
dating my daugther - completed 1 chap in 2 years, but they want more... chapter 2 incompleted and the history isn't finished
lust affect - incompleted
my new life - incompleted
Rogue evolution - Pff Wtf with that game man
superpowered - 4 years , incompleted
a zombie's life - abandoned

man thats all the games i remember, but if you go to ONHOLD , and ABANDONED section u will see all the games i played one time and i got betrayed like a whore in a corner , try to understand me, i can't trust the devs, the only ones i trust are

Lab rats - from Vren
Dreams of desire - LewdLab
and

THE GOD ICSTOR

the rest are crap that i need to ask in a intervale of 2-3 years if the game actually have content

i probably knwo games that aren't here , they were uploaded in ulmf. or in Vipergirls.to , games from 2014 or 2013 that nobody remember
 

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Nah , not that worse... only you need load a save before eat the pills and everything goes fine.
Oh, good, that was what I expected, but the way people were talking, I was starting to get worried. I guess too many people don't make new saves often enough... :LOL:
Who thinks this game would be great Fully Animated? Just thinking that this game would be so cool if it was done like school days and summer days!
I also think that @DarkCookie should start some voiceovers for the girls. They get paid enough to do it! Even if its just moaning and sexual voiceovers! Lil more variety in sex scene options would be nice as well.
Otherwise though, still loving the game even though there are some major bugs from last release to still iron out!
Have to respectfully disagree somewhat, while animation in that was a fun idea, it was so painfully slow to get through the boring scenes I couldn't take it, when in this you can advance the dialogue as soon as you are done reading it (or sooner). As for voices, considering non-Japanese games, the best ones I have seen are mediocre at most, usually I don't want more than a small collection of sounds like a voices from an old RPG, like Balder's Gate. Typically if it has sounds it is just one more thing I have to mute so I don't annoy anyone else in the house anyway... :p
 
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@drew:

In that case you probably shouldn't download any game that's acutally in development but wait until it's done. Games like The Twist, SummertimeSaga, My new life etc. get regular updates and are by now way larger than the games made by for example ICSTOR, while BigBrother and DMD were basically shut down by patreon.

In general you can't compare patreon development to normal game development and thus you'll just need to be patient.

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I guess too many people don't make new saves often enough... :LOL:
Indeed. I can't understand how some people still don't understand that it's almost mandatory to save often in basically every game on this platform, especially if they play the first version of a game and the game isn't linear and provides a sandbox to play in ...
 

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sorry but you are right, im busy downloading incompleted games that once had my attention,

big brother - abandoned
sarah's life - abandoned
the twist - 4 years or so, incompleted yet
summer time saga - incompleted
dating my daugther - completed 1 chap in 2 years, but they want more... chapter 2 incompleted and the history isn't finished
lust affect - incompleted
my new life - incompleted
Rogue evolution - Pff Wtf with that game man
superpowered - 4 years , incompleted
a zombie's life - abandoned

man thats all the games i remember, but if you go to ONHOLD , and ABANDONED section u will see all the games i played one time and i got betrayed like a whore in a corner , try to understand me, i can't trust the devs, the only ones i trust are

Lab rats - from Vren
Dreams of desire - LewdLab
and

THE GOD ICSTOR

the rest are crap that i need to ask in a intervale of 2-3 years if the game actually have content

i probably knwo games that aren't here , they were uploaded in ulmf. or in Vipergirls.to , games from 2014 or 2013 that nobody remember
Understandable, but Idk, something tells me DC is in it for the long haul. He's number 1 on Patreon making insane amounts of money, which isn't something I think he's too keen on giving up yet.
 

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BigBrother and DMD were basically shut down by patreon.
DMD is still going on, he is just funding it through another project called Melody. Melody gets updates 2 months in a row, and then DMD gets one, it just updated the other day. Both of those games are starting to near the end too, for the record.

This one is also not going anywhere short of some major catastrophe, he has not only planned most of this game out, but has a follow up project in the conception phase.
 

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DMD is still going on, he is just funding it through another project called Melody. Melody gets updates 2 months in a row, and then DMD gets one, it just updated the other day. Both of those games are starting to near the end too, for the record.
Yes, that's correct. But at least in that case I can understand that one may complain about the really slow development speed, though Melody seems to be quite a nice alternative.
 

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i understand you guys, u have patience, im sick of that , im waiting illusion games right now because koikatu was a crap that they shouldn't made and im in a space time where only i can do is complain about lazy devs , this world sucks in so many situations that i can't change, and one of these are the relation between a patreon and a dev, why should i give you money. fucking whore, if u aren't finishing the game¿? i dont know you, i dont know if i can trust you, you did not finish any game, then why???

maybe you will say that they have no time cuz their "real work" or because the lack in staf...the bullshit that always they say

well i m just liberating myself
 

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fucking whore, if u aren't finishing the game¿? i dont know you, i dont know if i can trust you, you did not finish any game, then why???
Why are you so focussed on finishing the game? SummertimeSaga for example is way bigger right now than anything ICSTOR ever made and of course DC could have cut back 60% of the characters/content planned and have the game done next month. Some Devs make really large and long games, others way shorter ones but therefore many of them. There's really no virtue in finishing something just to finish it. I personally know quite a few games which ended way too fast because devs wanted to move on to their next project ...
 

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Yes, that's correct. But at least in that case I can understand that one may complain about the really slow development speed, though Melody seems to be quite a nice alternative.
TBH, I like it a lot better myself, art, story, all of it, DMD was never one of my favorites. Only a few if the characters are even attractive, but in Melody, almost everyone is.
i understand you guys, u have patience, im sick of that , im waiting illusion games right now because koikatu was a crap that they shouldn't made and im in a space time where only i can do is complain about lazy devs , this world sucks in so many situations that i can't change, and one of these are the relation between a patreon and a dev, why should i give you money. fucking whore, if u aren't finishing the game¿? i dont know you, i dont know if i can trust you, you did not finish any game, then why???

maybe you will say that they have no time cuz their "real work" or because the lack in staf...the bullshit that always they say

well i m just liberating myself
Well, quality work takes time, there are a few, like Man of the House, who puts up an update every other week, but they are short, whereas here, he is trying to do a full story arc with each update. Not to mention, hand drawn art takes a lot longer than cgi renders. With CGI, once you have the models, you just need posing and rendering, with 2D, you have to draw almost every frame. This project did get slowed down this time due to losing one programmer and the main one having a death in the family, but they never stopped working.
Why are you so focussed on finishing the game? SummertimeSaga for example is way bigger right now than anything ICSTOR ever made and of course DC could have cut back 60% of the characters/content planned and have the game done next month. Some Devs make really large and long games, others way shorter ones but therefore many of them. There's really no virtue in finishing something just to finish it. I personally know quite a few games which ended way too fast because devs wanted to move on to their next project ...
That's how I feel about all of ICSTOR's older milfy games, they all cut off before the story was complete, dropped threads left and right in those games. I hope he doesn't do that this time.
 

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Why are you so focussed on finishing the game? SummertimeSaga for example is way bigger right now than anything ICSTOR ever made and of course DC could have cut back 60% of the characters/content planned and have the game done next month. Some Devs make really large and long games, others way shorter ones but therefore many of them. There's really no virtue in finishing something just to finish it. I personally know quite a few games which ended way too fast because devs wanted to move on to their next project ...
finishing games is how you get trust
 

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finishing games is how you get trust
No. Releasing good and regular updates is how you gain trust. There's no point in finishing a game when the end doesn't fit or when there's obviously content left that was needed to make a good ending. I don't want to see for example SummertimeSaga or TheTwist ending now or anytime soon since it would be shit endings.
 

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TBH, I like it a lot better myself, art, story, all of it, DMD was never one of my favorites. Only a few if the characters are even attractive, but in Melody, almost everyone is.

Well, quality work takes time, there are a few, like Man of the House, who puts up an update every other week, but they are short, whereas here, he is trying to do a full story arc with each update. Not to mention, hand drawn art takes a lot longer than cgi renders. With CGI, once you have the models, you just need posing and rendering, with 2D, you have to draw almost every frame. This project did get slowed down this time due to losing one programmer and the main one having a death in the family, but they never stopped working.

bro if all games were easy to make all the idiots would make them

if u can t put an stop to a game you are useless as a dev
 

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No. Releasing good and regular updates is how you gain trust. There's no point in finishing a game when the end doesn't fit or when there's obviously content left that was needed to make a good ending. I don't want to see for example SummertimeSaga or TheTwist ending now or anytime soon since it would be shit endings.
Exactly, Drew has it backwards, abandoning a game will cause you to lose trust, but but you don't need to finish one to gain it. In fact, finishing a game before it's done, it tantamount to abandoning in my opinion.
bro if all games were easy to make all the idiots would make them
if u can t put an stop to a game you are useless as a dev
Yes, it needs to have an end, but it needs to make sense, if you end it too soon, this it is worse, as I just said, you have effectively abandoned it.
 

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No. Releasing good and regular updates is how you gain trust. There's no point in finishing a game when the end doesn't fit or when there's obviously content left that was needed to make a good ending. I don't want to see for example SummertimeSaga or TheTwist ending now or anytime soon since it would be shit endings.

are you telling me that after 3 years a renpy game can't be finished without inconsistencies?? updating and making the game more big is a nice way for leave more things unfinished then gain more money... i see it that way
 

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for example, you like the game because is big , the dev adds new things each update, a lot of things, yeah , you played the game since first update, update by update you played, the time passed you played this game update by update for 3 years, then the dev leave the game, what will you do? that happened to me in the past. and i was a patreon
 
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are you telling me that after 3 years a renpy game can't be finished without inconsistencies?? updating and making the game more big is a nice way for leave more things unfinished then gain more money... i see it that way
The games don't finish because the ones who pay for it demand the content. What's so hard to understand about that? Of course more time means more content but therefore we get .. well... more content?! What's the problem with that? I like more scenes, more sex, more variety, bigger, better and deeper stories, etc.

At least I'm somewhat sick of starting new games of which many are just the same again and again. I mean it's not like there are that many new and creative concepts out there.
 

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are you telling me that after 3 years a renpy game can't be finished without inconsistencies?? updating and making the game more big is a nice way for leave more things unfinished then gain more money... i see it that way
It depends on the plot, and the size of the cast. If you just want a short, linear game, with just a few characters, sure, but if you have an open world, and the a full story for more than dozens of characters, then no, it takes longer than that. Good work take time.
for example, you like the game because is big , the dev adds new things each update, a lot of things, yeah , you played the game since first update, update by update you played, the time passed you played this game update by update for 3 years, then the dev leave the game, what will you do? that happened to me in the past. and i was a patreon
Just because you have abandonment issues, doesn't mean it affects every project. And if, by some twist of fate that DID happen here, I would consider myself lucky that I got to enjoy what I did of this great game. In fact, I am actually upset that he is working on finishing the main story in one of the next updates, I want to same that for last ...like a normal game.
 
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