Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]
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Badjourasmix
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And I am here still waiting for content with Judith lol. It's kind of crazy that I was still in my 20s when this game came out and at this pace I will probably be close to 40 when the tech update is finally finished.
lalka
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Surely, thats why they anounced new development cycle and released the first pre-tech build quickly after the abandoned tag. And similar things happened for multiple projects
F95 doesn't have anywhere near that big an impact on the development process.
They simply couldn't get to their work places. They collapsed somewhere on the way between the bar and the work desk. And now they sleep in blissful ignorance that the calendar says June has already arrived. We await tomorrow's revelations.
DC said in one of latest streams that Debbies's route will be the focus for the next "couple of updates". Sounds to me that it will take at least the remainder of the year. 
You're reading too much into coincidences... You're deluding yourself thinking like that.
This hasn't been in development for a decade yet.
Anyone who can reach DC could please sal if he intends to release the update this sunday? Thanks!
txe320
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beerpig
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I don't know what the devs have been doing through those 2-3 years, but I'm sure they barely spent time working on their game.
I've unpacked + decompiled 0.20.16 and wip.5791 to compare them. Here's what the devs did:
1. Files and directories have been completely reorganised. Overall things are easier to find in the WIP, so that's an improvement for further development.
This is soul-crushing boring activity, that takes exactly zero skill (unless find and replace became arcane knowledge). You will want to procrastinate it forever, but once you decide "yeah, got to do it", it should take days, not years to complete.
2. Apparently assets are not being remade from the scratch, but they're being resized and in some cases blank space is being removed. For example:
- Old version:
View attachment 20 missy.webp
View attachment 20 asset.webp
- New version: View attachment wip missy.webp View attachment wip asset.webp
As #1 this should take days, not years to complete. Even if you're recutting the paperdolls (I didn't dig deep enough to see if they did it, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say they did.)
3. The code was remade from the scratch; apparently with the same dialogue as before. Here's an example:
Both are Jenny hitting MC with a hair dryer. Both are bad but still somewhat readable; if the old code is six, the new code is a half dozen. (Protip: avoid abbreviations. Your future self will NOT remember what they meant, and will spend more time deciphering them than it would take for you to type the thing out. Cue to a/b/f/m to mean arms/body/face/mouth.)
It's way more complex to estimate how much time this would take; but certainly not 2~3 years to redo the whole thing. As in, even giving the devs the benefit of the doubt, the new versions should've reached feature parity (same content) as 0.20 ages ago.
And I can't emphasise this enough: all those three things can be done gradually, without restarting from the scratch. If you do #1 and #2 correctly users don't even notice what you did, and #3 will be like "ah, finally they fixed that bug".
Because your assertion reeks of being false, and I'd like to you see you actually able to prove it.
Ah yes, when you can't backup your words, divert attention by turning things into personal attacks... Classic.
You guys are overcommitting to something obvious, the guy is not putting full time dedication into his work. We all know from either a job or school days that deadlines like those are only messy like this when you only work in the last minute. There is no need to prove such obvious thing.
For example, look at the current context:
Since the re-work started, it took them two years to the point where this thread was flagged as abandoned, to show meaningful report and all that was shown was the map update and some drawing updates that could've been perfectly redone in a next update, but it wasn't the case.
Then, they promised to release updates bimonthly and they were all underwhelming and always left out for the next bimonthly update that was consequently short.
So, the current history alone should be enough to explain that they are not putting actual efforts in delivering good updates, from the code perspective, we are literally in 2025, where we have ChatGPT and they are still falling behind.
But yes, there are those who will defend the guy, because mainly they are tossing money on the guy, so its a matter of choice biases and we can't fight these kinds as they exist in every game.
i really dont get it why DC subscribers dont answer his lazyness and delay with massive unsubscribe! The only “understandable” reason is that they use their mom and dad credit card and forget they are patreons cause they dont see or pay the bil every month ! Targetting the money income is always the best way to cause a disturbance and make people keep on the straight and narrow and still these people wont do it! Fuck, i hate passive and pacient people! They do what they want with them, and they just accept it
PietruccioTheHilander
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What are you trying to insinuate?
CM has been an extremely valuable member of this very thread providing people with tons of information.
I applaud what he has done to actually talk to people instead of fueling more hate towards the devs of this game.
To those who are impatient for updates, Remember this game costs you nothing. DC doesn't owe you or me or anyone.
Go play something else and come back in a year or two.
I rarely comment on F95, but i wont have CM or anyone else being attacked for just being helpful/nice to people.
beerpig
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Yup, I agree this is obvious. But sometimes you do need to prove the obvious, because when you see enough dumb shit, simply rolling your eyes isn't enough - you feel like calling it out. And people who bought a bridge and then defending the bridge seller's honesty are saying nothing but dumb shit.
I personally don't like to use LLMs when coding for personal reasons, but I've seen people claiming they increased their productivity by 50% with ChatGPT or Copilot. So yes, there's that too.
Hey guys I will download the game (it’s my first time ) I see there two version (it says it’s before tech uptade) they are the same or I should begin with the old version ?
txe320
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Depend what you want?
Do you want to play the version with the most content who'll never get updated? Or do you want to play the remake with only 15% of content but will keep being updated?