Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6705] [Kompas Productions]

[JKH18]

I guess it really is a testament to the quality and popularity of this game, that people seem to be at pretty high levels of anxiety waiting for the update to drop. Some even going as far as outright attacking one of the devs for a family tragedy, and others complaining about the schedule overall, even though the schedule's been agreed upon a long time ago and the update is well within that schedule. :O
I don't think I've seen this level of complaining or anxiety aside from triple A titles in quite a while.

 

[Deleted member 690333]

Everyone just needs to chill the fuck out, the people who come in here to complain are going to do it regardless if this update came out a week ago, they would just bitch about some "bug they found" or come up with some bullshit. It's never enough for people like that so fuck em, trying to retort just feeds them more and continues the needless garbagio that makes up a decent part of a lot of game threads lately :^/

 

[TheDevian]

I don't think I've seen this level of complaining or anxiety aside from triple A titles in quite a while.

I can think of a couple of recent examples, but unlike here, they actually deserve it.

 

[orrayt3x]

Brace yourselves, lads.

 

[Trapezio]

Ok, guys. 0.20 will be the clothes' update: DC will spend 4-5 months redrawing the MC only. Are you happy?

I don't know the limitations of the game engine they are currently using. Why are you acting like an asshole? I just said I hope there was an option like that in the future. And 4-5 months to draw mc clothes? What are you a fucking preschool artist? I just thought that it may be possible to create a code that can easily swap the mc's clothes. No need to be a fucking sarcastic asshole.

First of all, it was a joke. So, calm down.

Secondly, DC was asked this on stream. More than once. Guess what? he answered that he should redraw all of the scenes involving MC. DC would REDRAW ANYTHING INVOLVING THE MC.

So, you could tell that DC is a "fucking sarcastic asshole" like me.

 

[Buzz007]

Some people in this thread need to get a life.

 

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[j4yj4m]

I don't know the limitations of the game engine they are currently using. Why are you acting like an asshole? I just said I hope there was an option like that in the future. And 4-5 months to draw mc clothes? What are you a fucking preschool artist? I just thought that it may be possible to create a code that can easily swap the mc's clothes. No need to be a fucking sarcastic asshole.

As mentioned, it almost certainly won't happen. There's a good reason why there are not fancy clothes anywhere in the game, it's just too much work to draw and to adapt them.

Else some weeks/months for some sets of clothes are certainly realistic. Unlike games which use 3d renders or other systems, you can't just create the new clothes and replace them "somwhat automatically" by just letting your hardware rerender everything or making the game work it out, but you'd have to redraw not only every charactersprite (which could indeed work if DC had adapted the system) but more so every cut scene which is already in the game right now and which will be in the game in the future. That's why it's almost 100% certain that MC's clothes will never change, except maybe for certain scenes. It's just too much work for very little gain. The same goes for hairstyles etc. as well.

 

[Sexmanthexman]

How about you try being less of an insensitive asshole regarding someone having a death in the family? Some families are close and have strong bonds. And most of the staff on the game already have jobs.

And most of the staff on the game already have jobs.

DC has 50k money and most of the staff on the game already have jobs.
DC makes his own company and still, the employees need to have additional jobs to earn money ...Who has a contract whit the dude ?... does he outsource everyone...Is he paying them in sticks or skittles?

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Now this is just sad...silencing your users will never be a good idea

 

[Grumbledwarf]

They shouldn't update bar from 90%-100% or don't roll it back when a new bug is found so we can avoid all this drama. The real problem is people carrying torches because .17 seemed almost rdy 2 weeks ago

 

[j4yj4m]

They shouldn't update bar from 90%-100% or don't roll it back when a new bug is found so we can avoid all this drama. The real problem is people carrying torches because .17 seemed almost rdy 2 weeks ago

DC said some days ago that he's thinking about introducing a new bar/system just for bug testing. So the 3 bars would likely move to 100% and then we'd have another one just for the different stages of testing. Maybe that's indeed not the worst idea.

 

[MrCrit]

I heard people say that DC was so annoyed by the whining and complaining that he was going to withhold the update until Jenny's is done.

All joking aside, it makes for an interesting scenario, and here is what I'd think could happen if we were to extrapolate on that:

Considering how transparent DC is in terms of the development (progress bar, drawing streams with random questions answered, discord etc.) this would be such a harsh shift that I'm assuming this would quickly turn into a PR nightmare. Not only is this game well known, many know that the last bit is always the hardest.

By doing something like this, his fanbase would most likely be split. On the one hand, you'd have a good chunk of losses, since if you go all out to make the development as transparent as possible, people that are interested in the product will not take lightly to the shift of behaviour, others might not like the time it takes to progress (Oh let me tell you how programming in python is a bitch). On the other hand, the remaining supporters would become incredibly hostile towards outsider comments, as they did support DC and will keep supporting him for whatever reason that would be.

now that you have brought this up it actually raises an interesting question; could DC pull off a toby fox? (the creator of undertale, who has basically released a demo for his game and made a kickstarter, reached his goal, and then went on for about almost 3 years to make the full game). do you think something like that would work in an industry like this?
how do you think it would affect the game and the community it has if he got the initial dev movey and went AWOL till he delivered an equivalent of undertale in the adult game industry?

im not saying that the method right now isnt working but just this "what if?" scenario sounds really cool as an alternate universe and hopefully this gives people something to talk about for a while

 

[Vladimir Putin]

One thing I highly suspect is that DC is not paying enough for devs to minimize the breaks.. DC always says he doesn't care about the money but is he giving enough motivation for his devs to deliver better ?

 

[Madeddy]

Oh help. Whats happening here? Argh! OK. Let me also add 2 cent.

First. People, please don't take the "Progress bar" too seriously. This thing is from my POV what we call here in slang a "Mäusekino"(direct trans would be mouse-cinema). Its the name for some gimmick that measures something and
a) is not very exact at it
b) if you look at it you don't see that much
c) you're not sure if it measures what you think.
Sound about right, or?

Second thing i noticed was/is the issue with the code tasks done segment, who went 1 backward and some persons did a temper tantrum.
I think the answer could be really simple. I guess they got the task done, fixed the bugs and "thought" it works. So the task was closed and the bar went one up to 35/36. After this they realized "ups, doesn't work" -> reopened, it went back to 34. Happens. And understandable. No need to cry Armageddon.

The update will come, we will cry about unfixed bugs and regardless of this we will have a good time. A day or 5 more is not the end. Nice day people.

 

[DidierDrogba]

I don't think they can release today. DC probably wants make more hype tho

 

[orrayt3x]

 

[JKH18]

I don't think they can release today. DC probably wants make more hype tho

Gotta say, this place sure don't need any more hype than this. If release gets delayed for more hype, some ppl here are going to start bursting blood vessels.

 

[Jukesmaan]

When I wake up something might surprise me

 

[hulaneo]

Well, 97% done... just one point to finish the coding, what a relief!

 

[Qwasar]

Now this is just sad...silencing your users will never be a good idea

If it was for me the thread would be locked until release. I have read the last few pages, and I'm more than sure that humanity wouldn't lose anything if people were stopped from posting here for a few days.