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PayneToTheMax

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Neither have I, my thrust has been that people do need to keep in perspective the process of pledges when considering the structure and context of the criticism.



No, but that is the risk THEY are taking and theirs, alone. It is not ours to take on in our criticism of the work. And if a patron decides their pledge enables their need to say something, that is what their subscribers channel on the discord and patreon is for -- their pledge-supported benefit empowers them with direct access to the eyes and ears of the dev team. Here, DC has rarely communicated and this is not his platform for communication and on here no one truly knows if the person criticizing is doing so from their patron-position.

I know I'm preaching to the choir (meaning itsyeboii) on the following, but the millions on this site and the tens of millions across other sites get what we pay for (a free game that everyone has access to directly from the developer) and our criticism should be understood in that way (by us and from us).

You know as well as everyone else here that the complaints happen here because they know DC doesn't really look up this place and they actually lack the balls to do something directly by appealing to the patrons. Almost as if they are afraid the support would be cut and the game truly abandoned.

Funny that.
 

Gambit588

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You know as well as everyone else here that the complaints happen here because they know DC doesn't really look up this place and they actually lack the balls to do something directly by appealing to the patrons. Almost as if they are afraid the support would be cut and the game truly abandoned.

Funny that.
Load of bullshit. I would be more than happy if his patreon account got banned, and this game went up in smoke. As far as I am concerned this dev is a scammer, liar and thief. More respect to him, he found suckers who donate and made millions. But truth be told the entire model of Patreon leads to devs doing jack shit for weeks on end, and morons giving them money for doing jack shit for weeks on end.

Does not change the fact that the guy was paid (extremely well) for a product he failed to deliver. Fuck him.
 

dinopara

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Load of bullshit. I would be more than happy if his patreon account got banned, and this game went up in smoke. As far as I am concerned this dev is a scammer, liar and thief.
kind of weird but eh, it's good to see dc cook because it reminds me of star citizen but for porn, with the cultists and everything :LUL:

Does not change the fact that the guy was paid (extremely well) for a product he failed to deliver. Fuck him.
we have a saying here: "too much hatred turns into obsessive love".

3 years and no new contents.
what do you mean? re-redrawn art and a update to ren'py is content, right? :Kappa:
 
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PayneToTheMax

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Load of bullshit. I would be more than happy if his patreon account got banned, and this game went up in smoke. As far as I am concerned this dev is a scammer, liar and thief. More respect to him, he found suckers who donate and made millions. But truth be told the entire model of Patreon leads to devs doing jack shit for weeks on end, and morons giving them money for doing jack shit for weeks on end.

Does not change the fact that the guy was paid (extremely well) for a product he failed to deliver. Fuck him.
Then go and convince his patrons. Show some actual balls, man.
 

Oscarsz

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Load of bullshit. I would be more than happy if his patreon account got banned, and this game went up in smoke. As far as I am concerned this dev is a scammer, liar and thief. More respect to him, he found suckers who donate and made millions. But truth be told the entire model of Patreon leads to devs doing jack shit for weeks on end, and morons giving them money for doing jack shit for weeks on end.

Does not change the fact that the guy was paid (extremely well) for a product he failed to deliver. Fuck him.
i dont get it, nobody is held at gunpoint to support the game, it's their money why are people so mad about it? dc is just making a living and there are people who like his update releases
 
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itsyeboii

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Neither have I, my thrust has been that people do need to keep in perspective the process of pledges when considering the structure and context of the criticism.

No, but that is the risk THEY are taking and theirs, alone. It is not ours to take on in our criticism of the work. And if a patron decides their pledge enables their need to say something, that is what their subscribers channel on the discord and patreon is for -- their pledge-supported benefit empowers them with direct access to the eyes and ears of the dev team. Here, DC has rarely communicated and this is not his platform for communication and on here no one truly knows if the person criticizing is doing so from their patron-position.

I know I'm preaching to the choir (meaning itsyeboii) on the following, but the millions on this site and the tens of millions across other sites get what we pay for (a free game that everyone has access to directly from the developer) and our criticism should be understood in that way (by us and from us).
You're completely right. But like you said you're preaching to the choir. I wasn't really talking about the validity and effectiveness of criticism on this site to begin with.

All I'm saying is that I don't believe that the majority of people pledge as a "thank you" which sometimes gets thrown around here, nor do I think that those people should be expected to simply pledge as a "thank you", as it goes against the many implications Patreon themselves and DC put on display, not to mention common sense.

That's just something I can't help but expressively disagree with since it doesn't make much sense to me.
 

PayneToTheMax

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i dont get it, nobody is held at gunpoint to support the game, it's their money why are people so mad about it? dc is just making a living and there are people who like his update releases
Meanwhile, the same people happily let themselves get taxed, pay tips and all that other jazz without even the slightest bit of outcry, even though that is far more compulsory (or outright not an option not to pay).
 
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