Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6705] [Kompas Productions]

[CrispJr]

Guys, could you please stop complaining about the devs' speed in regards to releases? They fixed 4 lines of code in the past 24 hours of which 3 were simple typos. They're clearly working overtime.

Yeah, let's give them a break guys! DC is pulling in over half a million dollars a year. 6 months is totally reasonable.

If he was working 40 hours a week on art, there's no way it would have taken that long to make. Since he has writers and coders he should be primarily focusing on that.

 

[seraphimd2]

Interestingly enough, we aren't even yet at the starting line and it doesn't appear to ever get closer.

well,there always the brighter and the darker side,the problem is that the blue balls make everything look darker....in my case,i'm just realistic(and gladly,not in the expectative of the update),and the game i'm waiting for is the LOQOO which updates in every end/beggining of the month...i'm gonna find it amusingly ironic if LOQOO ends before SS

 

[seraphimd2]

I heard the 0.19 will include a pregg update for mom is that true ? Also can we have a real preg fuck scene not just the mini game :/ i want to see a ending clip for all characters that have a preg option and seeing them fucked preg

dunno,what i heard is that it would already have the preg content for Eve,Grace and the Goth busty girl i forgot the name....didnt remember they saying Debbie would have a upgrade on her route too....

 

[Jonboy80]

People need to punish this laziness, not to support.Stop defending the devs like DC , they are making a lot money you guys just fapping.So they have a job to do and they need to do fast.

They have a job to do and they're doing it at their own pace. They are, in no way, obligated to speed up development because a minority of people believe they should. You see how many people are paying? 17,377 patrons. That many are paying and happy to pay at the current rate. The relative handful who are complaining have pulled their funding or have never funded in the first place.

There are thousands of games out there in the AIF world. Hundreds that are good, dozens that are great and few that are amazing. There are even more "legitimate" games out there by many developers. It's not like SS is the only game out there. Go play something else.

 

[Wangmu]

They arent obligated for sure, but I cancelled my patron because I supported them for 7 months and got 1 update in that time, 2 if you count the holiday surprise update. 15x7 is a lot of money for very little update content. They can take things at their own pace sure but part of supporting these projects is to support them to be completed not to be a pet project for several years. Majoras Mask was like a 13 month turn around off OoT that was a whole feature filled game. They were made by a large team and reused assets so its obviously not a fair comparison but like a 3 year long project and literal Quarters go by without content updates while people pay monthly, not by patch will burn people like me out.

 

[Ungawa]

Hey guys,

I just discovered the daisy storyline, the thing is, I already completed the meth dealing part of roxxy's quest, so clyde isn't there anymore to give me the part of the statue.
Did I lock myself out definitely on the dasiy part or is there another way of having the status ?
TIA

Go ahead and finish the Roxxy quest.

 

[Simba1776]

I'm so glad I'm not a regular poster in this thread anymore. I see we're still discussing the finances of SU here.

 

[randymagnum]

If he adds another artist, that's two different art styles in the game. You, usually, don't want to make the art differ in a game as it becomes quite glaring. No two artists draw alike, so the odds of him finding someone who can mimic his art is minimal.

This is/was an issue with Elena Champion of Lust. The differing art styles were glaring to me and, though it shouldn’t have, it affected my enjoyment. As fickle as we all tend to be, two or more different art styles, or any inconsistencies for that matter, would have people pissing and moaning just as much as the amount of time it’s taking for updates.

 

[Ungawa]

I think the problem is less how much DC is making and more that he seems to feel obligated to deliver a game that meets the expectations generated by such largess. Updates are getting larger and more varied, to the point where they could almost qualify as standalone VNs in their own right, but his team isn't built to produce them on the timescale that most people would expect a Patreon-supported adult game to meet.

If he wants to keep up this level of production that's fine, but he's going to have to compromise at some point and hire another artist even if they can't match his style perfectly. Heck, with all of the art revamps we're already getting contrasting styles in the game (see the last update, which had both old and new Jenny depending on the cutscene) and nobody seems to mind too much. It'd help with his same-face problem, too.

This is a fair point, but the problem is that artists are incredibly fickle and expensive in this specific line of work.

Your first paragraph points out correctly that this is getting into what a standard VN is and I'm talking Japanese VN with significant character development. The problem is that the girls are coming out more and more and it's becoming two or three actual VNs instead of just one. Most Japanese Hentai VNs will give you a choice of 3-5 romance options. We are well past that along with redoing it so there isn't a certain genre that would cross a line or two.

At this point, this is certainly Kompas' baby with DC at the helm. But the reality of the challenges in front are certainly daunting in making a game in media res while hopefully expanding it properly as need be.

 

[Mab's Thrall22]

Apart from horrible design choices like removing scenes, the stroyline was hot garbage too. The story that this milf just wants to get on with you and she does is far more appealing than what we got all the barn crap in the new update.
Like really Endgames out and I have just seen it and theres still no word on when the updates gonna be released. Now hes like of the Eve update will be the largest, bruv like you already took 6 months on a update for a character who already had a proper update, how long are you gonna taken for Eve when you callin her update the biggest? Like yeah hes gonna take 8 months and as this update is gonna be hot garbage like most expect it to be, DC's gonna take a hit.

I will say this about the Diane story. If you enjoy incest, playing with the mod that makes her your aunt again (like the original game was), the story does get much better and makes more sense. But without the incest, I agree it is very forced and does not flow smoothly as a narrative.

 

[Mab's Thrall22]

I don't really understand why it should be bad if some people leave? DC obviously doesn't want to change the way he works and for that the estimated funding was set to around ~25k to 30k at best. Right now the whole thing is certainly overperforming financially (which is nice for DC and in my opinion actually not undeserved) but that doesn't mean it always will.

At some point, we'll reach a level where the content released and the money he makes fit again and it's fine. That said, I'm fairly certain that people would still complain just as much, no matter wether he makes 25k or 50k.

I get what you are saying and I agree that the money DC is making now is not undeserved, but I do hope that with people leaving he will change his work ethic. It's not the fact that he made a game good enough to earn this money, but the fact that he has let his greed overtake any responsibility to those giving him this money. Personally, I would like to see him drop down to like $500 dollars a month as a punishment for allowing his greed to take control like it has. Unfortunately, I know this will never be the case, and with the money he has accumulated, if he has invested it wisely, he is set for life. Therefore, I am on the boat that he will probably never finish the game or if he does it won't be anywhere near the level it could be. So, yes when Jenny is done and robertj hopefully completes his incest mod, I am probably gonna walk away from this game for good. There are alot of other amazing games out there still being developed that are more deserving of my time and support.

 

[Mammatus]

I'm going into the game when the animation scene remains black, does anyone know the solution? does not open video please help

 

[Ungawa]

I'm so glad I'm not a regular poster in this thread anymore. I see we're still discussing the finances of SU here.

People are still Blue Balling themselves over the release.

I just grab the popcorn and watch their heads get as big as mine.

 

[Mab's Thrall22]

People are still Blue Balling themselves over the release.

I just grab the popcorn and watch their heads get as big as mine.

Nope, not being blue balled by this update. There are plenty of other games that keep my balls from being blue. Just trying to point out obvious greed to hopefully wake some people up. Probably a futile attempt, but still worth a shot.

 

[PatreonTed]

Not $250 k update. Its a $300 k update. Its been 6 months since the last update got out. The last one released at 23rd of November 2018 so basically just that. 6 months for this. Honestly if this turns out to be shit people are gonna leave.
Also yeah when DC said that Eve will be his biggest, well like yeah bruv as it if you havent taken a seriously long time on this one already. I expect this one to be not that good really just like the Aunts because hes just updating a past character.

5 months + 2 days is not 6 months.

I think the problem is less how much DC is making and more that he seems to feel obligated to deliver a game that meets the expectations generated by such largess. Updates are getting larger and more varied, to the point where they could almost qualify as standalone VNs in their own right, but his team isn't built to produce them on the timescale that most people would expect a Patreon-supported adult game to meet.

If he wants to keep up this level of production that's fine, but he's going to have to compromise at some point and hire another artist even if they can't match his style perfectly. Heck, with all of the art revamps we're already getting contrasting styles in the game (see the last update, which had both old and new Jenny depending on the cutscene) and nobody seems to mind too much. It'd help with his same-face problem, too.

I don't think he *needs* to make any compromises if he doesn't want to. He had clear goals for up to $30k (in terms of what resources he would add) and nothing after that. He hit $30k, got those promised resources, and kept on going. He obviously has some kind of vision that he wants to adhere to, and it seems that no amount of extra money is making him change his mind on adding new people unless they are a great match. And he's been working at the same speed for well over a year now, so I don't understand why the same people keep making the same complaints and "liking" any negative comments like it's going to change anything.

People need to punish this laziness, not to support.Stop defending the devs like DC , they are making a lot money you guys just fapping.So they have a job to do and they need to do fast.

What makes him lazy? He's been working the same speed for ages ...

 

[Wet & Wild Production]

5 months + 2 days is not 6 months.

 

[Reese286]

Dropped in to check on undate progress and wow, just wow. The butthurt and poutrage from the dizzy, entitled bitches in this thread is amazing.

Wake dafuq up - DC and his team are on the job and getting it done_ everything they do is out in the open. Unless you are a patreon supporter, the game is free to you, DC owes you nothing. You otoh owe DC a great deal as you are getting the fruits of his labor and others investment for free. So chill dafuq out, appreciate the Dev. and if you dont like waiting then stop waiting and take your drama elsewhere - you will not be missed.

 

[seraphimd2]

5 months + 2 days is not 6 months.



I don't think he *needs* to make any compromises if he doesn't want to. He had clear goals for up to $30k (in terms of what resources he would add) and nothing after that. He hit $30k, got those promised resources, and kept on going. He obviously has some kind of vision that he wants to adhere to, and it seems that no amount of extra money is making him change his mind on adding new people unless they are a great match. And he's been working at the same speed for well over a year now, so I don't understand why the same people keep making the same complaints and "liking" any negative comments like it's going to change anything.



What makes him lazy? He's been working the same speed for ages ...

i'm literally seeing good reasons being listed by both sides,but still dont see anyone learning to use both sides to create a real constructive critic without triggering someone on the other side...its like unending circle of shitslinging....i feel like i'm back in the teachers update...which bring me back some disturbing flashbacks in the frustation sector,so,there are people who care enough for Jenny update to make something like this,better hold your horses becuz Eve's update will probably reach a new height....

 

[seraphimd2]

i do feel a little bad for dogeek,he's probably going to make double time this weekend becuz of that animation getting delivered just in the last work day of the week,always wondered why its only his part that mostly goes up during weekends too...

 

[Chucked_Sandwich]

I love how the number of bugfix issues has skyrocketed. It's almost like none of the programming really started until a few weeks back, in this 5 month cycle.

I get that nothing can be "really" done till the pics are done, but...... unless of course they've over complicated her story with other characters, and it's breaking other stories..... won't know till we play I suppose.