Ghostly Hale

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You're a hater because every single post you have made in this thread has been negative towards the game makers and anyone who likes them.



The scene is coming back with 18.5
Why should I respect a cheat? I'm sorry to any fans who feel hurt by my words. It's your wallet that should be hurting.
 
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UBOLSOBS

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What happened to the shovel in this version?
It disappeared.
I see the shovel doesn't show up until you run into Diane,
Weird.
 

j4yj4m

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What happened to the shovel in this version?
It disappeared.
In case you haven't found out yet, it'll only appear after you Diane asks you to get it.

Updates are taking longer and longer to complete anyway and characters' stories could be completed if there was more structure. He could have finished the main story and still added sex scenes for characters while he finished it. As it is currently, there are some core systems/features that will not only permeate every character (dating, main story, pregnancy) but require tweeks and adjustments along the way. DC is trying to squeeze those systems into every girl's story instead of building around them which can lead to confusion/frustration for players.
I'm not sure they'll ever really make huge improvements when it comes to update speed. As long as DC draws alone there's a finite amount of art that can be created and every scene etc. you'd add will increase the time an update needs. I mean, we've had that discussion when DC moved from ~50 to 60 day updates (Mia and Erik) to ~100 to 120 day updates (Jenny took 137) and I think that was a good choice. I'm not really sure wether increasing that number to basically "2 updates per year" would be good for the game. After all there are quite a few people around who can't even wait those 4 months.
 

steama90

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Guys,I don’t want to bother but walkthrough is not helping me. I am a Mac user and I have downloaded the latest version. I am fucking stuck with roxxy/Jenny path. After I have done the french poem and gave her Pom Pom,she ask help for cheerleading and when I go to Jenny I keep replying “i ll be back when I have money” even if I have. What did I do wrong?? Is that because first I must do the alcohol quest?? Please help me
 

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I am fucking stuck with roxxy/Jenny
Ouch, that hurts!

:)

For your problem: can you try talking to Roxxy in the morning when she's at the breakfast table? I heard that there might be a bug when talking to her in her room.

Or you could attach a savegame here, I will try to look into it.
 

dylan123

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The more DC reworks, the more he ruins the game. Jenny went from a ok character to a bitch, and the animations, while are smother, are worse.
I had fun unpacking the game and comparing the old versions with the new one, I have to say that 5 months of work would be justified only if he worked an hour a day for free, but not for over 50k a month.
Now many characters only have layers with arms, facial expressions, etc. interchangeable, and I don't envy those who have to put them in order, in fact often you see wrong backgrounds etc ..
With this I don't want to create controversy with the players of this game, take it as my personal opinion.
After all, everyone is free to spend their money as they see fit.
 
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The more DC reworks, the more he ruins the game. Jenny went from a ok character to a bitch, and the animations, while are smother, are worse.
I had fun unpacking the game and comparing the old versions with the new one, I have to say that 5 months of work would be justified only if he worked an hour a day for free, but not for over 50k a month.
Now many characters only have layers with arms, facial expressions, etc. interchangeable, and I don't envy those who have to put them in order, in fact often you see wrong backgrounds etc ..
With this I don't want to create controversy with the players of this game, take it as my personal opinion.
After all, everyone is free to spend their money as they see fit.
You cant say that,some DC fantard will attack you eventhough it just your personal opinion
 

dylan123

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You cant say that,some DC fantard will attack you eventhough it just your personal opinion

I will make myself a reason, I liked the game until the Roxy update after it was no longer interesting for me, I hope I can say it.
 
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Ungawa

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I think the phrase, "can't see the forest for the trees" applies well here. His point wasn't SS is at the same scale as SC.
Neither was mine.

He was pointing put the incredible similarity between the two when you look at their development. It may be 8 years old now, but SC started out small too. The dev was ambitious and shares the passion and zeal for his project that DC does. Like SS, it exploded in popularity and instead of meeting the target release of 2014, its now 2019 and we're still getting updates with no tangible release in sight. SC also has a road map and the benefit of an experienced designer/director.
This denies the reality that DC has done far more that put out tech demos and got Luke Hamilton to role play an actor in a game that cost more than GTA 5.

His point is that SS can quickly turn into this too. It is the largest porn game on patreon and it'll be 3 years old soon without a finished version. I'm a fan. I've played every update without fail and usually give DC the benefit of the doubt when it comes to changes. But the updates are taking longer despite going from one man to a team and core systems still haven't been implemented. For more and more of us, each update reveals the team needs to refocus its priorities because we want this game to succeed as much as DC does. No one wants another SC.

You made my point about scale, ignoring the fact that the reality is that Star Citizen has far more going on than a team of 10 people making games and redoing code and the engine on Ren Py. You also ignored that I pointed out that they just lost a coder and can't shoot miracles out their ass when that affects an update. The point being made is you have to look at the reality and look at context. You can't just compare two games together just because you think the similarities are the same while ignoring important information right in front of you. That's why I said you can compare Star Citizen to Duke Nukem.
 

endlust

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I'm not sure they'll ever really make huge improvements when it comes to update speed. As long as DC draws alone there's a finite amount of art that can be created and every scene etc. you'd add will increase the time an update needs. I mean, we've had that discussion when DC moved from ~50 to 60 day updates (Mia and Erik) to ~100 to 120 day updates (Jenny took 137) and I think that was a good choice. I'm not really sure wether increasing that number to basically "2 updates per year" would be good for the game. After all there are quite a few people around who can't even wait those 4 months.
There's the difference. I think he could be more efficient if there was more structure. He doesn't need to have a long dev time for an update. Big updates can easily be broken apart by setting milestones and the community will not be as upset if he's clear with what's going on. His current model will eventually lead to him only making 1-2 updates per year and you're right, that's not good. DC is the sole artist, and will eventually become the bottleneck of the process no matter how many people he has on staff. Despite that, I don't think his art is the hindrance to the process, I think the plan itself is flawed. The dating system alone is going to require a rework for each character if he goes by his current model.

To be succinct, its not the size of the updates that's concerning, its how he's using them.
 
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