Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6705] [Kompas Productions]

[SINtax EroRR]

Yeah totally an Excuse if they can't copy the Art Style nor get even the backgrounds right. Cause that happend so often in the past that DC then had to redraw everything which lead to even more work was such a great idea that now if you can't copy the Art before you apply you won't get the job anymore.

Claiming DC is milking his patreons is just completely absurd. No one forces anyone to donate. Nothing is beyond a paywall or anything of that kind. The Fact of the matter is if you wait 24 hours you can play the game regardless of you paying or not. How that is considered milking is beyond me.

Why shouldn't i or others defend it? He is not milking nor does he put anything beyond a paywall. Yet people claim he his when the evidence clearly shows the opposite.
He is transparent in his streams about his work and even personal life. So no clue where all this hate comes from always before a release. If people are impatient thats one thing. Straight up lying is another thing.

Yes what you are saying is against DC as you imply he does prolong an update for personal gain. Which if you would watch the streams is far from the truth. Everything from background to Characters and animations is drawn by himself. He did hire other Art Workers in the past and it always turned out horrible where he had to redo their work as well.

So most of those claims come from people either not knowing whats up in the first place or straight made up stuff inside their heads.
I don't have a problem with critique of any game as i do that myself but i can't wrap my head around the fact that so many people who love his work and his game are straight up making up stuff because (insert fucked up reasoning here) they can't wait for the update to drop.

There have been a few fan artists in recent months that actually can replicated DC's work and quality quite well. Just look at some of the fanart featured in SS discord server. There is also currently another artist I know of in that server who applied for assistant artist with DC. From the screenshots he posted in the group, DC seems quite approving but wants them to be more consistent and fluid in his implementation of DC's style. There is still some hope there and since SS is still quite a ways to go, they very well might be accepted in Team Kompass if they keep it up. Maybe the work will speed up then.

 

[SINtax EroRR]

Yeah totally an Excuse if they can't copy the Art Style nor get even the backgrounds right. Cause that happend so often in the past that DC then had to redraw everything which lead to even more work was such a great idea that now if you can't copy the Art before you apply you won't get the job anymore.

Claiming DC is milking his patreons is just completely absurd. No one forces anyone to donate. Nothing is beyond a paywall or anything of that kind. The Fact of the matter is if you wait 24 hours you can play the game regardless of you paying or not. How that is considered milking is beyond me.

Why shouldn't i or others defend it? He is not milking nor does he put anything beyond a paywall. Yet people claim he his when the evidence clearly shows the opposite.
He is transparent in his streams about his work and even personal life. So no clue where all this hate comes from always before a release. If people are impatient thats one thing. Straight up lying is another thing.

Yes what you are saying is against DC as you imply he does prolong an update for personal gain. Which if you would watch the streams is far from the truth. Everything from background to Characters and animations is drawn by himself. He did hire other Art Workers in the past and it always turned out horrible where he had to redo their work as well.

So most of those claims come from people either not knowing whats up in the first place or straight made up stuff inside their heads.
I don't have a problem with critique of any game as i do that myself but i can't wrap my head around the fact that so many people who love his work and his game are straight up making up stuff because (insert fucked up reasoning here) they can't wait for the update to drop.

I managed to find an artwork they posted of someone's OC illustrated in DC's style. Look at it and tell me me you dont get Summertime Sage vibes immediately xD.

 

[piledriver1122]

Can you have sex with multiple girls in 1 playthrough or is it the type of game where you do 1 path per play through?

 

[2xjj]

I managed to find an artwork they posted of someone's OC illustrated in DC's style. Look at it and tell me me you dont get Summertime Sage vibes immediately xD.

This is nothing like DC style

 

[SINtax EroRR]

This is nothing like DC style

If you say so. But there was a reddit meltdown that happened precisely because a lot of people did indeed mistook it for another hidden character from DC reserved for patreons. It isn't of course (and DC isn't hiding anything) but the fact many people got convinced is already proof.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

Games with SteamDRM. Doesn't matter if its indie or AAA, if it will get cracked within few hours.

Frostpunk-AAA like title from Indie game studio, 2-3 years, 3D, great story & gameplay, Custom Game Engine, Top notch art, budget $3M.

That sounds cocky. Check Deviantart or svscomics. Most comic book follow same art style.

Could be

1. OT but SteamDRM is not the only DRM. Case closed.
2. 11 bit studio has 101 employees.
3. Doesn't matter how it sounds thats how DC wants it so thats not up for debate.
4. No thats what happend. Follow on discord if you want to know more. I don't work with could or maybe.

Before the mods strangle me i won't adress stuff OT anymore.

 

[bakasto]

If you say so. But there was a reddit meltdown that happened precisely because a lot of people did indeed mistook it for another hidden character from DC reserved for patreons. It isn't of course (and DC isn't hiding anything) but the fact many people got convinced is already proof.

Than those people must be legally blind

 

[X0M3!]

This is nothing like DC style

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

If you say so. But there was a reddit meltdown that happened precisely because a lot of people did indeed mistook it for another hidden character from DC reserved for patreons. It isn't of course (and DC isn't hiding anything) but the fact many people got convinced is already proof.

Proof of what? I am not saying no one can copy DC Art Style. We already had one who could do that but has 0 time for other projects and not for a time consuming one like SS. The point is those who apply didn't get his yes as it has not worked for him in the past.
And it doesn't matter what we think or the majority thinks about it. Its DC's decision and if he gets someone who can do it fine. But till thats happening we have to wait regardless how long it takes him.

We all would love faster updates but we all would start ranting the moment someone works for him and models look different. I know a potential rage issue when i see one.

 

[SINtax EroRR]

Than those people must be legally blind

A bit mean, but alright then. In the end it doesn't matter since DC gets the final say anyway. I must say I respect DC's work etiquette tho, since he puts quality over quantity and I don't understand the hate in this comment section directed toward his refusal to hire more artists. The man cares for his game, clearly so let him be. He just wants to make sure his game is consistent is all.

 

[j4yj4m]

I managed to find an artwork they posted of someone's OC illustrated in DC's style. Look at it and tell me me you dont get Summertime Sage vibes immediately xD.

Well, the guy who made it hangs out in the SS discord quite often and he said himself that he isn't good enough right now to be part of the team. He's currently working on two more "SS like" characters but said that he may be good and fast enough to apply next year or so. That's far as I recall it.
As mentioned many times, DC seems to be extremely picky in that regard and until now that someone who fulfills the professional and personal requirements hasn't applied.

Edit: I personally see the current situation as a given and have adjusted my pledge so it seems fair to me. I mean, it's been like this for 2 years by now and I would not expect it to change.

 

[SINtax EroRR]

Proof of what? I am not saying no one can copy DC Art Style. We already had one who could do that but has 0 time for other projects and not for a time consuming one like SS. The point is those who apply didn't get his yes as it has not worked for him in the past.
And it doesn't matter what we think or the majority thinks about it. Its DC's decision and if he gets someone who can do it fine. But till thats happening we have to wait regardless how long it takes him.

We all would love faster updates but we all would start ranting the moment someone works for him and models look different. I know a potential rage issue when i see one.

I can't say I disagree, since they are a few games here I've played that hires different artists to work on the CGs and the difference in art style is sometimes very jarring. But in all fairness, even if you disagree about whether the fanart resembled DC's style or not, I must say that the difference isn't very jarring. There is clearly passion put into that in their attempt to replicate DC's work. Can it be improved? Certainly but credit is where credit is due is all.

 

[SINtax EroRR]

Well, the guy who made it hangs out in the SS discord quite often and he said himself that he isn't good enough right now to be part of the team. He's currently working on two more "SS like" characters but said that he may be good and fast enough to apply next year or so. That's far as I recall it.
As mentioned many times, DC seems to be extremely picky in that regard and until now that someone who fulfills the professional and personal requirements hasn't applied.

You're right, I found his convo and he does indeed admit he isn't good enough and will continue to work on his art. But I'm just saying he has potential. I don't want to shoot him down completely.

 

[2xjj]

If you say so. But there was a reddit meltdown that happened precisely because a lot of people did indeed mistook it for another hidden character from DC reserved for patreons. It isn't of course (and DC isn't hiding anything) but the fact many people got convinced is already proof.

Just because a bunch of idiots lost their shit over it on Reddit does not change the fact it looks nothing like DC art style

 

[SINtax EroRR]

Just because a bunch of idiots lost their shit over it on Reddit does not change the fact it looks nothing like DC art style

That's an opinion. I respect it. But other people have their opinions too.

 

[assrekt]

This game needs to get the NTR tag added for DC cucking his supporters.

Says the pirate.

 

[j4yj4m]

You're right, I found his convo and he does indeed admit he isn't good enough and will continue to work on his art. But I'm just saying he has potential. I don't want to shoot him down completely.

Yeah, I'm sure there are quite a few people out there who could copy DC's style sufficiently and that character would certainly be fine with some refinements in the linework, a little modified shading and a new right foot. But in some way that's the point, DC doesn't want to spend the time to correct those things. Two artists simply seems to be a pretty bad compromise, especially if they aren't sitting the in the same room. To me it's either one artist or three to four or more. In those latter cases you can have someone who reviews everything from those who draw and who does the proper artistic coordination, so everything is consistent. But that's probably just a hunch of mine and I'm pretty sure that coordination is exctly the kind of work DC doesn't want to do. I mean, if you set out to create your own game, you probably don't want to end up solely correcting other people working on it.

 

[SINtax EroRR]

Yeah, I'm sure there are quite a few people out there who could copy DC's style sufficiently and that character would certainly be fine with some refinements in the linework, a little modified shading and a new right foot. But in some way that's the point, DC doesn't want to spend the time to correct those things. Two artists simply seems to be a pretty bad compromise, especially if they aren't sitting the in the same room. To me it's either one artist or three to four or more. In those latter cases you can have someone who reviews everything from those who draw and who does the proper artistic coordination, so everything is consistent. But that's probably just a hunch of mine and I'm pretty sure that coordination is exctly the kind of work DC doesn't want to do. I mean, if you set out to create your own game, you probably don't want to end up solely correcting other people working on it.

Yeah I think DC is a hands-on type of person and he doesn't want to direct art, he wants to make it himself. Which is unavoidable since he was the one who provided all the art up until now. But its also a pity, because if he had more artists under his wing, like how cartoon, manga and anime studios work, SS progress would be much more efficient. Its just too bad he literally cannot afford to do that.

 

[cryhwks]

Says the pirate.

It's foolish to give your money to this games, because there is more incentive to not finish the game, they absolutely make more money like this, than they would if the game was done and people just bought it. Because this way it's like people are buying your game again every month.

I will absolutely buy this game when/if it's ever done? But I have no problem with Pirating it now.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

It's foolish to give your money to this games, because there is more incentive to not finish the game, they absolutely make more money like this, than they would if the game was done and people just bought it. Because this way it's like people are buying your game again every month.

I will absolutely buy this game when/if it's ever done? But I have no problem with Pirating it now.

As this game is free since day one and DC already said he will never sell it after its done as that would make no sense since its FREE. I wish you good luck in buying this game anywhere while the entire world downloads it for free anyway from DC Website or this one