Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6705] [Kompas Productions]

[Jessie]

That would pretty much mean 99% of users would lower there usage by 70% or more.. then the internet would fail.. or someone will or has already "invent" a new internet..
Just my opinion though

 

[bigbomb]

i can't wait anymore

 

[A.J.]

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[Obuttma]

This isn't an "American" thing more so than it is a corporate thing. It's Time Warner, Verizon, and AT&T trying to merge to control the internet and have you pay for their monopoly.

Ajit Pai, the FCC commissioner that used to be a Verizon lawyer, has basically put the internet up for auction so that the ISPs can make fast lanes for the few, slow lanes for the many. He's cut subsidies to the poor, and signaled how the rich want more.

Net Neutrality is basically having internet service being used as a utility. What most companies want to do is prioritize their own shitty services while charging you for things like checking out Patreon. This also would set the internet into a Dark Age by locking up information to whatever they prioritize. Google, Facebook, and Amazon included.

Basically, once Net Neutrality goes, you have companies looking for profit to fuck you over.

Welcome to the Digital Feudal Age with your corporate overlords.

I thought the internet was created using the US taxpayers money (for military use initially iirc), and therefore a US public property.

Would that violate some public interest concerns or anti-trust/anti-monopoly trade law?

 

[Ungawa]

I thought the internet was created using the US taxpayers money (for military use initially iirc), and therefore a US public property.

Would that violate some public interest concerns or anti-trust/anti-monopoly trade law?

I can get into the nitty gritty details of this, but the effective use of the net would be corporatized and it's been heading this direction since 2009. Yes, taxpayer dollars were used by DARPA to create the internet in the 70s and 80s but with the FCC being corporatized and giving favor (bribes) to the largest corporations in America, you can see the fallout of this.

I'll just say that the Supreme Court looked to weaken government regulation (codeword: public input) and with our local corporate conservative court, the FCC will effectively disrupt the internet for profit seeking businesses.

Sure you can bust that up with anti-trust law, but we have Nixon 3.0 who just passed legislation in America for the richest corporations to have lowered taxes and less social responsibility.

You think they'll want to break up the people giving them money to destroy a public resource?

 

[rle68]

Dont take this as a personal attack cus it wasnt meant as ... but seriously i think your pissing into the wind on this.. people bitched when they passed it now that its gone same thing wait and see...

 

[NotaBullRobo]

Net Neutraility is more about big companies fucking over smaller ones on the internet. Patreon is an establish company, so there shouldn't be any issues. Most of the file hosting sites are large as well, so shouldn't be an issue on that front either.

People trying to develop adult games WITHOUT using patreon are the ones that may have some problems, as access to their personal site is what would be made harder, or more accurately, slower.

 

[Haru105]

it kinda sad when we don't have any spoiler

 

[Obuttma]

I think you are sloth passive cunt who hasn't even read into an issue but will outright ridicule it.
Good luck people, especially those that are naive enough that this is just American thing. Internet is global body whatever happens in America it will affect all of us. And you can be absolutely 100% sure that if this happens in States, Australia, Europe and others will follow suit. and BTW DC lives in America ://

As I said, I really hope you americans will do something about this, if you don't you will lose my respect forever. I swear I will never look at the american the same and when I do I will just see fat sloth passive dumb cunt that couldn't even protect the only thing that really mattered. The consequences of this will be huge and Internet nevers gonna be the same(for starters bye bye f95zone, I'd love to see how this site that steals games from creators exist when ISPS will control what you see hahah atleast no more piracy ever haahaha)

Is that really a concern?

Ain't brute forcing your way pass internet restrictions and block sites using proxies and vpn were already an established art?

I live somewhere were copyright laws are poorly implemented and I doubt my current internet service provider will care enough to regulate my online activities.

As long as i give them money I think they wouldn't see the need to change their current service policies.

 

[EllaKrael]

Serious question:
Isn't the internet already policed/run/controlled by Facebook, Google/Youtube, Twitter, the Domain Name hosts, and their ilk? They get to decide who's messages get heard, who is verified, who can be online, and who can earn from ads...
How is an ISP (ComCast or whomever) blocking access any different to what the Online Service providers can do now even with Net Neutrality?

 

[Kakato]

Serious question:
Isn't the internet already policed/run/controlled by Facebook, Google/Youtube, Twitter, the Domain Name hosts, and their ilk? They get to decide who's messages get heard, who is verified, who can be online, and who can earn from ads...
How is an ISP (ComCast or whomever) blocking access any different to what the Online Service providers can do now even with Net Neutrality?

Internet is ruled by Google. However, Facebook started to make some innovations and is slowly turning into a sort of web-directory. Proof is the number of filters which keeps on being updated.

 

[rle68]

I think you are sloth passive cunt who hasn't even read into an issue but will outright ridicule it.
)

whatever chicken little... go cry the sky is falling

 

[kingthehentai]

i get stuck in bathroom while sex with mom, how can i get out

 

[ThunderZoo]

Serious question:
Isn't the internet already policed/run/controlled by Facebook, Google/Youtube, Twitter, the Domain Name hosts, and their ilk? They get to decide who's messages get heard, who is verified, who can be online, and who can earn from ads...
How is an ISP (ComCast or whomever) blocking access any different to what the Online Service providers can do now even with Net Neutrality?

Consider Internet as a bunch of buildings connected by streets. When you want to read a book you ask Google (or another search engine): "Where are the books?" and Google shows you all the libraries. Among those you choose LittleFamilyLibrary and then you walk towards it.
Normally you have paid to your ISP (that control the streets) the right to walk on all the streets, so you choose the shortest way; but without Net Neutrality the ISPs tell you:
"LittleFamilyLibrary didn't paid me a bunch more of money so this road is blocked, if you want to go there you have to pay me more or walk 5 miles more (sometimes without paying more you simply cannot go there), but BigCorpLibrary paid me so you can choose the shortest walk if you choose to go there instead of the little one".

Moral of the story:
- little website owners are fucked since nobody will visit their sites (because they have to pay more)
- users that want to visit less popular websites have to pay more and they will probably see those sites disappear

(don't nitpick my metaphor, I know it's not very very accurate XD )

 

[User_215882]

This isn't an "American" thing more so than it is a corporate thing. It's Time Warner, Verizon, and AT&T trying to merge to control the internet and have you pay for their monopoly.

Ajit Pai, the FCC commissioner that used to be a Verizon lawyer, has basically put the internet up for auction so that the ISPs can make fast lanes for the few, slow lanes for the many. He's cut subsidies to the poor, and signaled how the rich want more.

Net Neutrality is basically having internet service being used as a utility. What most companies want to do is prioritize their own shitty services while charging you for things like checking out Patreon. This also would set the internet into a Dark Age by locking up information to whatever they prioritize. Google, Facebook, and Amazon included.

Basically, once Net Neutrality goes, you have companies looking for profit to fuck you over.

Welcome to the Digital Feudal Age with your corporate overlords.

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Search engines already do what net neutrality may do. Im not saying corporstions might fuck the Internet hard, but people need to understand that these companies respond to the consumer. What the removal of net nuetrality is supposedly going to do is spark job growth and give people in rural areas better access to the internet. Seems like a bunch of shit considering the FCC head worked for Verizon and I doubt the big providers are going to invest in those areas anyway.

 

[PatreonTed]

Serious question:
Isn't the internet already policed/run/controlled by Facebook, Google/Youtube, Twitter, the Domain Name hosts, and their ilk? They get to decide who's messages get heard, who is verified, who can be online, and who can earn from ads...
How is an ISP (ComCast or whomever) blocking access any different to what the Online Service providers can do now even with Net Neutrality?

My understanding is the concern that ISPs would add an extra layer of control to what is already there. For example, fictional ISP SuperNet might have a movie streaming site similar to Netflix called SuperFlix, and in order to promote it, they could restrict the speeds of their users to Netflix while allowing full speeds to SuperFlix. Or maybe a news site is critical of SuperFlix, so they could impede access to that news site. And in many parts of the US there is only one real ISP to choose from, so a customer wouldn't be able to just move to another ISP if this was happening.

 

[jande21]

Please end the conversation of Net Neutrality.
If you want to continue open a thread in general discussion, as this is not the place for it.

 

[EllaKrael]

Consider Internet as a bunch of buildings connected by streets. When you want to read a book you ask Google (or another search engine): "Where are the books?" and Google shows you all the libraries. Among those you choose LittleFamilyLibrary and then you walk towards it.
Normally you have paid to your ISP (that control the streets) the right to walk on all the streets, so you choose the shortest way; but without Net Neutrality the ISPs tell you:
"LittleFamilyLibrary didn't paid me a bunch more of money so this road is blocked, if you want to go there you have to pay me more or walk 5 miles more (sometimes without paying more you simply cannot go there), but BigCorpLibrary paid me so you can choose the shortest walk if you choose to go there instead of the little one".

Moral of the story:
- little website owners are fucked since nobody will visit their sites (because they have to pay more)
- users that want to visit less popular websites have to pay more and they will probably see those sites disappear

(don't nitpick my metaphor, I know it's not very very accurate XD )

My understanding is the concern that ISPs would add an extra layer of control to what is already there. For example, fictional ISP SuperNet might have a movie streaming site similar to Netflix called SuperFlix, and in order to promote it, they could restrict the speeds of their users to Netflix while allowing full speeds to SuperFlix. Or maybe a news site is critical of SuperFlix, so they could impede access to that news site. And in many parts of the US there is only one real ISP to choose from, so a customer wouldn't be able to just move to another ISP if this was happening.

So... What "Net Neutrality" does, from the metaphor (which I enjoyed) and as I think by law ISPs are allowed to charge more for packages and services so it doesn't stop them charging you for more/less bandwidth or speed (only that they can't reduce/increase speed for certain things or parts of the internet) is force the ISPs to "treat all Internet traffic equally". Yes?

So how is an ISP slowing (or even blocking) connections to LittleFamilyLibrary different from Google not showing it at the top of their search results (or even in the first 10 pages, or removing their app from play, or blocking their youtube vids) OR GoDaddy blocking their domain from being used OR Twitter banning their account; simply because they didn't pay them or they directly compete with their own Library service or some other random reason (they stock a book that the owner of said companies don't like)?


To the Super Mod:
Apologies I must have hit post before the New Replies message posted up.

 

[User_215882]

O my god when is the update!!!!! /s

 

[a1fox3]

O my god when is the update!!!!! /s

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