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Yeah, Malik is OP, but his power is straightforward. In terms of firepower and hax he's up there. The attack he was about to launch, "Planck something" must have to do with the Planck temperature, which is theoretically the highest temperature physically possible. It was the temperature moment after the big bang.
You have to wonder who could tank that without breaking the law of physics.
 

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Yeah, Malik is OP, but his power is straightforward. In terms of firepower and hax he's up there. The attack he was about to launch, "Planck something" must have to do with the Planck temperature, which is theoretically the highest temperature physically possible. It was the temperature moment after the big bang.
You have to wonder who could tank that without breaking the law of physics.
Something like that would, even if it's localised, be insane for everyone in the near vicinity so it's no surprise Nyx stops him.
 

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Ella could shrug of a fire attack that affected gravity like it was nothing. Level 5 MC in the deadend compressed a 6km long weapon down to machete size like it was nothing, and that attack Deus used sliced it like it was nothing. And Lisa says that Malik is the only one who might have a chance against Bernhardt.

This game has forces that go beyond what we understand as overpowered. Can't wait to see what will happen!
 

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Ella could shrug of a fire attack that affected gravity like it was nothing. Level 5 MC in the deadend compressed a 6km long weapon down to machete size like it was nothing, and that attack Deus used sliced it like it was nothing. And Lisa says that Malik is the only one who might have a chance against Bernhardt.

This game has forces that go beyond what we understand as overpowered. Can't wait to see what will happen!
Wait… Deus attacks us? Since when? Damn every time I think I have it figured out, new surprises pops up.
As for Ella, it was not her real body being burned, hence why Nico couldn't teleport her.
 

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Wait… Deus attacks us? Since when? Damn every time I think I have it figured out, new surprises pops up.
As for Ella, it was not her real body being burned, hence why Nico couldn't teleport her.
In the evolution if you accept the eyes proposal to let them be born with over ~25 corruption or whatever it was it continues after dead end 36 to dead end 37.
 

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In the evolution if you accept the eyes proposal to let them be born with over ~25 corruption or whatever it was it continues after dead end 36 to dead end 37.
Do you have pictures? Because in my current game I play “hero” with low corruption, so I didn't see this.

Edit ; Never mind, I just edited a save with URM.

Edit 2 ; Damn, jesus that was awesome. Deus is not fucking around :PogChamp:
 
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I mean, it's most likely because she understands that the less attention Ella is paying her, the more likely it is that she will get caught in Nico's portals. I get why people don't like Nico (she is a bitch to anyone who's less than level 3), but I personally do, and I hope to have more positive (read sexual) meetings with her.
I'm a bit confused by your comment here. I'm pretty sure my comment implied that I'm happy that she's trying to be my simp. In fact, I'm probably the biggest Nico simp in the thread, which isn't saying much because a lot of people hate her. Even the homies here probably give me the side eye when my simping happens.

Also, this is Nico we're talking about here, she wouldn't have asked for help or assistance, even while receiving it. This is either the MC's having some positive influence on her behavior and she doesn't realize it :KEK: or maybe she was always like this for Level 3 and above HERO agents she acknowledges. While the 1st one might actually be me being delusional, the 2nd is kind of far fetched as well since even when she got her ass kicked, she still told Malik she didn't need help lol.
 

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I'm a bit confused by your comment here. I'm pretty sure my comment implied that I'm happy that she's trying to be my simp. In fact, I'm probably the biggest Nico simp in the thread, which isn't saying much because a lot of people hate her. Even the homies here probably give me the side eye when my simping happens.
Nico just needs some attitude adjustment otherwise she's alright.
 
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Wait… Deus attacks us? Since when? Damn every time I think I have it figured out, new surprises pops up.
As for Ella, it was not her real body being burned, hence why Nico couldn't teleport her.
The attack I'm referring to is Malik's Core Heat, for which the narrator says that affects gravity and destabilizes the whole dimension for a few seconds. But Ella can just decide to not be affected by it although it comes with some caveats.

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Quite badass. The question is, can Ella have both a moving part and an invulnerable part at the same time? Also, will the MC learn how to do that? It's quite helpful ;p
 

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I'm a bit confused by your comment here. I'm pretty sure my comment implied that I'm happy that she's trying to be my simp.. This is either the MC's having some positive influence on her behavior and she doesn't realize it :KEK:
To be fair i guess a lot of people might be simping for Mc very soon.
Malik seems very happy if you are all hero like, Clark liked you being a lone hero since Myniak fight, Bernhardt said that you are developing well.
Nico was simping for Mc when you beat Valravn and she said that you should at least get to 3 evolution to represent HERO without being an embarassment, now that we are she just needs some love and talk no justu and she will be fine.
 

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Quite badass. The question is, can Ella have both a moving part and an invulnerable part at the same time? Also, will the MC learn how to do that? It's quite helpful ;p
I assume Ella can't, otherwise she would have. As Malik pointed out, it takes way too much focus and power on her part to maintain her invulnerability. If she maintained a moving body part, it'd probably still count as her whole body moving, and she can't even separate them since her fake body was still connected to the huge one.

As for the MC learning how to do the same, I doubt it. Ella taking more from Body than Memory is emphasized by her ridiculous regeneration and tanking, but MC takes from both Body and Memory in roughly equal measures, so he sacrifices some durability in exchange for the much more useful memory manipulation.
 

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While Malik's power is beyond impressive, his fighting style.. not so much. The attacks he showcased are great against slow / low mobility targets, but they are very unwieldy against faster enemies.

His defenses too are great against physical attackers, but what against mental attacks?

The way I see it, Malik is an extremely strong "initiator". If the enemy needs to stick to formations, Malik can just destroy them with overwhelming power. His 1v1 doesn't seem that amazing though. A lot of avoidable attacks and intensity seems to be inverse to the radius of the attack, which is really bad against a high mobility target.

I think MC has a good matchup against Malik. According to the text, he blinks and has moved several hundred meters. That makes him probably hypersonic so the ground attacks like Core Heat and Burning Tower won't work easily against him. The Ceaseless Fire attack is low intensity so it's quite probable that it can be resisted through armor, and MC has the capability for mental attacks which bypass Malik's protection (although he still hasn't shown mental combat aptitude, the potential is there).

Lastly Malik has a fairly weak whack-a-mole game. Ella performed much better than it seemed against him. Both Nico and Malik fell for the same trick, her hiding her true body and fighting with "proxies". His seekers can be countered by hiding and while he is probably powerful enough to turn into a sun and scorch everything in the vicinity, it's an unwieldy attack with high friendly fire potential and a burrower can probably survive it.
I don't think that if it comes down to it we have a chance against any of the level 5s. Especially the ones at the top. As we saw Ella vs Duncan, pure power can just overrun a weaker superhuman. There's nothing saying how Malik targets his powers. He did instantly reduce Ella to ash in his first attack and Burning Tower covered an an enormous area if you consider that Goliath is wider than 2 mountain ranges and tall enough to appear to touch clouds (in theory that's at least a 500 feet). If its a pure 1 v 1, he could just do his best supernova impression and wipe everything; especially if the attack Nyx stopped his from using uses Plank temp. We're still small potatoes against them
 
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As for the MC learning how to do the same, I doubt it. Ella taking more from Body than Memory is emphasized by her ridiculous regeneration and tanking, but MC takes from both Body and Memory in roughly equal measures, so he sacrifices some durability in exchange for the much more useful memory manipulation.
Probably the big difference is MC has the eye, the origin to both the third and the fourth, talking to him during evolutions.
Ella just has more progress than MC, in years but also evolution level. But if MC can unlock his potential he has access to the original power.... Many of the things Ella now is able to do might be available to MC just as well or perhaps even better, his 4th evolution will greatly improve him and his powers, it's called limit breaker stage for a reason... ;)
Dead end 37 shows a very powerful MC, despite being killed by Deus, but if that is MC's end potential when reaching his 5th evolution gradually, i doubt Ella is a match for him...
 

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Yeah, Malik is OP, but his power is straightforward. In terms of firepower and hax he's up there. The attack he was about to launch, "Planck something" must have to do with the Planck temperature, which is theoretically the highest temperature physically possible. It was the temperature moment after the big bang.
You have to wonder who could tank that without breaking the law of physics.
Something like that would, even if it's localised, be insane for everyone in the near vicinity so it's no surprise Nyx stops him.
 
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I don't think that if it comes down to it we have a chance against any of the level 5s. Especially the ones at the top. As we saw Ella vs Duncan, pure power can just overrun a weaker superhuman. There's nothing saying how Malik targets his powers. He did instantly reduce Ella to ash in his first attack and Burning Tower covered an an enormous area if you consider that Goliath is wider than 2 mountain ranges and tall enough to appear to touch clouds (in theory that's at least a 500 feet). If its a pure 1 v 1, he could just do his best supernova impression and wipe everything; especially if the attack Nyx stopped his from using uses Plank temp. We're still small potatoes against them
I'm not saying that MC in his current state can rival a level 5. In fact I think that he doesn't stand a chance. I'm comparing skill sets and potential. The narrator lets us know who are the most powerful beings from the the known rooster, and Malik currently is second in power behind Bernhardt. I'm not even trying to dispute that.

Planck Temp may sound beyond impressive from a physics standpoint, but for superhumans it's about power levels. His Core Heat ability generated "infinite" heat. So much energy that it warped reality and caused observable gravity. Frankly I can't even imagine what would be able to withstand such power. Certainly the material of Ella's body isn't good enough as demonstrated multiple times. Despite that, she resisted him, and the only explanation I can think of is because she can express her power in a way that it becomes a supernatural contest.

The possibility of reaching Planck Temp also opens other possibilities, like compressing matter to a black hole for which MC has shown some aptitude. And if Lisa is correct and Bernhardt is stronger, I wonder what he can do.
 

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Got lost in the mists of wander. I'm back tho. 90 titty goblin says hi. Can I fuck the dog yet? No? God damn it.

Hypothetical Timeline with Papa Syther
Hello lads and lassies, Papa Syther is bored and we have a good bit of time before we see the next update so I thought about an hypothetical situation/alternate timeline of sorts for our MC.

In this timeline the MC during his first meeting with Klaus, the MC goes turncoat and joins up with him, effectively betraying Alice and Michael (he betrays them because he wants to become more powerful and Klaus could help him attain that).

Despite Michael and Alice being quite strong for humans they can't beat 4 superhumans (Klaus, Danica, Oscar, and MC) and are defeated/captured.

Obviously with Klaus being alive the MC won't get his second evolution when he did (will most likely be later on) but would still achieve it unless Klaus decides to kill him as he tried to in OTL since he saw other people go under a similar process which made them uncontrollable and wild (I recall Klaus begging Alice to help him kill MC since alone he couldn't do it).

Now in regards to his second evolution it can go three ways
1) The MC has the 2nd evolution without Klaus even being aware of it (perhaps MC was off doing his own thing)
2) Klaus lets MC go through with the evolution after learning more about it (from Xanthe or whomever else).
3) The MC gets killed by Klaus and Co mid evolution change.

Let's just say for the sake of plot option 2 is the likely choice.

Now I'm unsure if Klaus and the group he is apart of would join HERO (if I recall right Klaus's dad and Xanthe have a history together or partnership of some kind).

Danica OTL if alive did join HERO but that was just due to the fact Klaus was dead (and I think she was forced as well)

That's all I got for now but how do you think things will fair for our MC in this timeline and other characters as well?

Words that are probably important:

OTL - Original Timeline
 
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I can't get to dead end 37, i tried loading saves and editing the corruption, but it only gets me to dead end 36, am I missing some other factor?
 

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Somewhat related to the hypothetical timeline but do we know what happened to the Aldains (Klaus's family/group) OTL? As we know he wasn't the boss but his father was.
After Klaus's death OTL I can't recall if they were ever mentioned again except when talking to Danica when captured with Alice's dad which is prior to Klaus dying. Like even with the death of Klaus and a large portion of their forces I'd presume they still have a presence due to Klaus's dad still being around albeit minuscule to what they had prior.
 
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