RonaldGrand6969

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I'm back. I spent some quality time with the fam. Watched the movie Jumper over again with them. I honestly forgot how good that movie was. It surprisingly holds up today. It made me an even bigger simp for Nico though. Now I really want like a montage of how she first received powers and her randomly teleporting all over the universe and the monster realm. I'm also curious if she has a hideout in case shit goes left or if she wants to leave HERO. Like an abandoned dimension created by an M-33 that she killed previously.

That's probably what's going to happen after Hex is killed. Those dimensions he created will probably just be left there and she can possibly tap into it. It's like how MC can't create mental links from a distance yet but he can hijack one that's already set up. Nico can probably sync her rings with the abandoned dimensions for her own personal use.
Respect to the fam quality grindset, I'm a big family man myself. Dig the new profile pic too, gotta represent the gals.

Nico's a Lvl 5 tho. I believe it was Xanthe that said by Lvl 4 you'd have pretty much all your abilities/capabilities unlocked, any that haven't been WILL be unlocked by this point. Then Lvl 5 ofc turns you to godhood status expanding on your already obtained abilities. I feel like we've seen Nico use her fullish power, either fighting Ella or the M-33, not her durability ofc but her arsenal. Her power is pretty simple it's just incredibly op in and of itself, if you add pocket dimension with that it's even crazier.

My point being; I don't think she has a DIMENSIONAL safe haven like the M-33 can create. I think this was said by the MC actually that while you can have similar or even DUPLICATE powers (same source) as another Superhuman or Monster; your capabilities can be totally different based on how you use it. Ella doesn't utilize armor like we do, yet when WE evolve we got 3 different versions. COULD she have armor? Probably. Would it be as EFFECTIVE as ours? Probably not, her body/powers haven't grown into that utilization.

Nico is kinda the same in that regard, while the M-33 excels at making Dimensions, Nico excels at tping great distances, be it people or objects. She was superior in a battle of dimension clashing too even while being harassed, but she couldn't open the dimension the M-33 set up because that was ITS focus in development.

Could she kill it and learn it/use it's already set up dimensions? Maybe, if she took the time, but we know Nico isn't one for that. Does she have a safe haven on Earth or off of it? Probably multiple honestly, as long as she remembers the place she can go there lol, it's what I'd do, like a hunter's cabin.

That's just my take tho, I could be totally wrong.
 

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Well, corruption doesn't seem to affect combat ability in any observable way, and MC isn't that weaker during training with Ella, a couple of points at most.

Clark at level 4 lacks that huge pistol shot ability. He can only shoot small bullets. MC is a regenerator. If you wound him he can regenerate. If you completely annihilate him he can't come back. Alexis' attacks also seem to be small and localized as a level 4 and she unlocks the "huge sword" after reaching level 5, high in her post evolution trance and with help from Clark's empower ability. This plays perfectly into MC's abilities. In deadend17 Clark hits him with the huge shot and completely annihilates his upper half.
I'm confused by this response. You're basically repeating exactly what I said. The context was different compared to Ella's, as you've just repeated. They don't know where his core is and they can't one shot him because of his power. This is all of what I said already.

The scenario was different because the MC's power was much more advanced than the Ella dead end. From what I remember, the MC formed his tail and could dissolve himself. Stuff he didn't get until Level 2 showing that it was much different. That's on top of Lexi and Clark not being able to take him down with their attacks.

With Ella, it's much different. His power isn't as advanced and she most definitely knows about his core, those being his spine and brain. She knows exactly what to target and she doesn't need anything more than her hair tentacles to do it. So yes, she can kill the MC in an instant and she likely did in that dead end.

Danica can't oneshot MC with bodyshots. She can wound him badly, but he still survives. In all deadends during the double tag fight Danica cuts him in 4, MC groans, Danica gloats and then finishes him off.
For the Danica bit, I don't recall that but I haven't did that dead end in forever so fair enough, I suppose. I'm sure if she lined her X up properly, it would've instant killed him.

I agree that Ella doesn't give a shit about MC early on. The only reason he "survives" if they fight is because she learns of the double trait, leading to deadend3. As long as Ella thinks MC has only 1 trait, if he goes against her or against her wishes, she will kill him. However having Jake is NOT a reason to kill MC especially if she can't confirm Jake having the double trait. It is however a reason to manhandle him a bit harder, especially since she is already in a bad mood. Ella is one of the smartest people in the game, her knowledge is huge and her schemes meticulous. It makes absolutely zero sense for her to kill MC especially when we know that she wants a person with the double trait, and MC is the first to show it.

Edit: Actually replayed that part, she lets you live if you fight her with medium power. I thought she kills you.
This is where I wholeheartedly disagree with you. That dead end that got interrupted by the 7th showed that the MC wasn't about to survive what was about to happen. I don't see how anyone can read that dialogue there and think he was about to come out alive. Especially when she straight up told the MC "she wanted to play with him a bit more" or that her telling him everything"wouldn't change his fate". That's not something you say to someone when you're taking them to an Apostle against their will.

I'm also not exactly sure why you're so sure Ella won't kill the MC when she has and will let him die on several occasions, even while knowing he has both traits. Unlike with Deryl, she hasn't given SIN or her students a no kill rule for MC. Hex and Cole tries to kill the MC once and Hex succeeded in dumping him in a monster realm in the 2nd. Aglaecwif straight up kills you if you say no to breeding. We also can't forget Ella herself kills you personally for killing Christie. You might say she was pissed but that shouldn't matter since she's so intelligent and wants a person with both traits, right? This is after Jake's final fight by the way. She didn't care about no dual traits and devoured him with her tentacles.

All of those events happened while Ella knows you have both traits so it's odd that you feel like she wouldn't off the MC for Jake, who she knows she can control and manipulate. Hell, for all we know, she only wants one Arbiter awake and not more than one.

You know what? I'll even level with you and say sure, she didn't kill the MC there in that dead end in her apartment. Sure, he somehow survived Ella's strike. That said, He definitely didn't survive beyond that scene and likely died when she got what she wanted. Which basically equals the same exact thing. MC was going to die no matter what. It doesn't matter if she didn't kill him there, he would've died later regardless because whatever she did was not good for the MC.
 
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So I was checking WW's Twitter and I was scrolling through who he was following.He was following pornstars with titties as big as tiffany or Alice :BootyTime:.Amber Alena was one of the names.So no wonder we got so much big tiddies in the game.
So he's got titties down, now my man just needs to subscribe to some backshots so he can respect his ass misdirection character, i.e:
(Demi's ass stickin out the sand; front view)
(Fucks Demi and Clove from behind; side view)
(Emily presents her ass bent over; bottom view)
List goes on.
 

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Respect to the fam quality grindset, I'm a big family man myself. Dig the new profile pic too, gotta represent the gals.

Nico's a Lvl 5 tho. I believe it was Xanthe that said by Lvl 4 you'd have pretty much all your abilities/capabilities unlocked, any that haven't been WILL be unlocked by this point. Then Lvl 5 ofc turns you to godhood status expanding on your already obtained abilities. I feel like we've seen Nico use her fullish power, either fighting Ella or the M-33, not her durability ofc but her arsenal. Her power is pretty simple it's just incredibly op in and of itself, if you add pocket dimension with that it's even crazier.

My point being; I don't think she has a DIMENSIONAL safe haven like the M-33 can create. I think this was said by the MC actually that while you can have similar or even DUPLICATE powers (same source) as another Superhuman or Monster; your capabilities can be totally different based on how you use it. Ella doesn't utilize armor like we do, yet when WE evolve we got 3 different versions. COULD she have armor? Probably. Would it be as EFFECTIVE as ours? Probably not, her body/powers haven't grown into that utilization.

Nico is kinda the same in that regard, while the M-33 excels at making Dimensions, Nico excels at tping great distances, be it people or objects. She was superior in a battle of dimension clashing too even while being harassed, but she couldn't open the dimension the M-33 set up because that was ITS focus in development.

Could she kill it and learn it/use it's already set up dimensions? Maybe, if she took the time, but we know Nico isn't one for that. Does she have a safe haven on Earth or off of it? Probably multiple honestly, as long as she remembers the place she can go there lol, it's what I'd do, like a hunter's cabin.

That's just my take tho, I could be totally wrong.
She's not making the dimension though, she's just syncing her ring up with an existing one. We already know Nico can break into M-33 dimensions by herself. This would be that, but her just using an abandoned one as a hideout. That's what I meant by the mental link example. MC doesn't create it himself, he just syncs his power up with Sharon's to read her memories from a distance.

For Nico, she wouldn't be able to alter the dimension or even control it. It would be the same size that the M-33 created it to be. She's just using her rings as a key to an existing one.
 

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This is where I wholeheartedly disagree with you. That dead end that got interrupted by the 7th showed that the MC wasn't about to survive what was about to happen. I don't see how anyone can read that dialogue there and think he was about to come out alive. Especially when she straight up told the MC "she wanted to play with him a bit more" or that her telling him everything"wouldn't change his fate". That's not something you say to someone when you're taking them to an Apostle against their will.

I'm also not exactly sure why you're so sure Ella won't kill the MC when she has and will let him die on several occasions, even while knowing he has both traits. Unlike with Deryl, she hasn't given SIN or her students a no kill rule for MC. Hex and Cole tries to kill the MC once and Hex succeeded in dumping him in a monster realm in the 2nd. Aglaecwif straight up kills you if you say no to breeding. We also can't forget Ella herself kills you personally for killing Christie. You might say she was pissed but that shouldn't matter since she's so intelligent and wants a person with both traits, right? This is after Jake's final fight by the way. She didn't care about no dual traits and devoured him with her tentacles.

All of those events happened while Ella knows you have both traits so it's odd that you feel like she wouldn't off the MC for Jake, who she knows she can control and manipulate. Hell, for all we know, she only wants one Arbiter awake and not more than one.

You know what? I'll even level with you and say sure, she didn't kill the MC there in that dead end in her apartment. Sure, he somehow survived Ella's strike. That said, He definitely didn't survive beyond that scene and likely died when she got what she wanted. Which basically equals the same exact thing. MC was going to die no matter what. It doesn't matter if she didn't kill him there, he would've died later regardless because whatever she did was not good for the MC.
Now my question is; why DOES she kill us early on so much? SOMETHING happened after the end of our Training Arc. Ella has to be the most mix signaled and interesting person I've ever read. Let's break it down, I'll try not to be biased:



1. She apparently KNOWS us PRIOR to the beginning of the game; almost in an "obsessed?", close way.

2. We meet her and she gives us to the 3rd & 4th for powers. This is all for whatever plan she has?

3. Tells us to get stronger and sends various tests to kill us/strengthen us. If we die, we aren't worthy to carry into her plans to begin with, explaining sending Jake, Kenny, etc.

Dead End 4. Takes us to the 4th after we...progress too fast? It's in handcuffs but was it to actually kill us? Nothing good sure but death? I doubt it. We had only been doing EXACTLY what she wanted us to do just faster than anticipated sooo what gives? Regardless whatever it was, it was PART of her plans and up to the 4th. Remember; she DOESN'T work FOR the 4th or 3rd.

Dead End 5. We tell her about the Memory trait via the jellyfish move. This leads her to SHOCK and then murdering us. Why? We don't know. Perhaps because she thought SHE would be replaced as the 3rd & 4th's chosen??? Leading me to my next point...

6. She obtains Lvl 5, the 3rd (presumably) speaks to her and she says she ISN'T the one, whatever that means. Perhaps she thought she'd obtain the Memory trait after evolving? She does mention that Lvl 5s get "missions" "purposes" from their progenitors by that point if I'm not mistaken. Anywho, she mentions; must it be us? As if she had lost whatever major part of the plan she wanted to take the role of, leading yet again to my next point...

7. Our last Training Arc she comes off as...vulnerable? Almost defeated, as if she WANTS us to beat her and stop her plan (refer to Dracula, from Netflix Castlevania; she wants to die but has a drive to keep resisting until someone stops her?) Anyways her whole attitude of somberness pretty much stays with us, leading to my next point...

Dead End 8. She seems sad that we lose ourselves to the Arbiter. It's not a "I just lost my expendable piece of my puzzle" but more of a "close friend". Interesting consider the 'start' of our relationship?

Sidenotes:
A. She kills us for killing Christine, this was an impulsive act, we killed her best friend. She even seems pissed by the action.
B. She's collecting Monster hearts to combine them into the Arbiter's hearts and using them in some 'weird dark ritual'; Aglaecwif states.
C. At SOME point of time she finds out we have the dual trait but DOESN'T hunt us down for it like she does previously in the Jellyfish Dead End.
D. She knows BOTH our parents (refer to the pussy tentacle bedroom scene). If she doesn't have the Memory trait, and our Mom died during our youth, Dad is never around...HOW does she relate our parents to hers?



Sooo what gives? I'm getting mixed signals here. My guess is by the point of the end of the Training Arc, or even after we defeat Jake AND Deryl (Twice); we had already passed the threshold of irreplaceability. She does mention she's on a time table to get her plan done, so while Kenny failed to be a replacement at first, she does mention there were others she could turn to replace us because we were WEAK, but now we've already progressed TOO far AND she learned she wasn't "worthy" upon Lvl 5. It does make me wonder though, because Point 1. claims she actually was INVESTED in us on a personal level PRIOR to our original in-game meeting. So did we mean so little to her even with the personal connection? Did our worthiness later on make it personal more than her "interest" in us at the beginning? What gives? And before anyone says she's JUST crazy, she is; but when it comes to her plans she doesn't do ANYTHING without a reason. She's very calculative with every variable so much so she overthrew an entire Sector over the Week and managed to take on a bunch of Lvl 5s. Killing us for having the Memory trait initially wasn't an "I'm crazy Ella~" impulse moment.
 
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Now my question is; why DOES she kill us early on so much? SOMETHING happened after the end of our Training Arc. Ella has to be the most mix signaled and interesting person I've ever read. Let's break it down, I'll try not to be biased:



1. She apparently KNOWS us PRIOR to the beginning of the game; almost in an "obsessed?", close way.

2. We meet her and she gives us to the 3rd & 4th for powers. This is all for whatever plan she has?

3. Tells us to get stronger and sends various tests to kill us/strengthen us. If we die, we aren't worthy to carry into her plans to begin with, explaining sending Jake, Kenny, etc.

Dead End 4. Takes us to the 4th after we...progress too fast? It's in handcuffs but was it to actually kill us? Nothing good sure but death? I doubt it. We had only been doing EXACTLY what she wanted us to do just faster than anticipated sooo what gives? Regardless whatever it was, it was PART of her plans and up to the 4th. Remember; she DOESN'T work FOR the 4th or 3rd.

Dead End 5. We tell her about the Memory trait via the jellyfish move. This leads her to SHOCK and then murdering us. Why? We don't know. Perhaps because she thought SHE would be replaced as the 3rd & 4th's chosen??? Leading me to my next point...

6. She obtains Lvl 5, the 3rd (presumably) speaks to her and she says she ISN'T the one, whatever that means. Perhaps she thought she'd obtain the Memory trait after evolving? She does mention that Lvl 5s get "missions" "purposes" from their progenitors by that point if I'm not mistaken. Anywho, she mentions; must it be us? As if she had lost whatever major part of the plan she wanted to take the role of, leading yet again to my next point...

7. Our last Training Arc she comes off as...vulnerable? Almost defeated, as if she WANTS us to beat her and stop her plan (refer to Dracula, from Netflix Castlevania; she wants to die but has a drive to keep resisting until someone stops her?) Anyways her whole attitude of somberness pretty much stays with us, leading to my next point...

Dead End 8. She seems sad that we lose ourselves to the Arbiter. It's not a "I just lost my expendable piece of my puzzle" but more of a "close friend". Interesting consider the 'start' of our relationship?

Sidenotes:
A. She kills us for killing Christine, this was an impulsive act, we killed her best friend. She even seems pissed by the action.
B. She's collecting Monster hearts to combine them into the Arbiter's hearts and using them in some 'weird dark ritual'; Aglaecwif states.
C. At SOME point of time she finds out we have the dual trait but DOESN'T hunt us down for it like she does previously in the Jellyfish Dead End.
D. She knows BOTH our parents (refer to the pussy tentacle bedroom scene).



Sooo what gives? I'm getting mixed signals here. My guess is by the point of the end of the Training Arc, or even after we defeat Jake AND Deryl (Twice); we had already passed the threshold of irreplaceability. She does mentions she's on a time table to get her plan done, so while Kenny failed to be a replacement at first, she does mention there were others she could turn to replace us because we were WEAK, but now we've already progressed TOO far AND she learned she wasn't "worthy" upon Lvl 5. It does make me wonder though, because Point 1. claims she actually was INVESTED in us on a personal level PRIOR to our original in-game meeting. So did we mean so little to her even with the personal connection? Did our worthiness later on make it personal more than her "interest" in us at the beginning? What gives? And before anyone says she's JUST crazy, she is; but when it comes to her plans she doesn't do ANYTHING without a reason.
How I view it all is well...

If the MC advances too fast Ella basically sees no point in letting the MC live for too long since he'd become to strong to control so she has to kill him (she could always find a way to 'control' him but the chances of her being able to maintain said control isn't too likely with something like arb in the MC).

To follow up on the prior statement she takes the MC to the 4th since the MC is something she can trade for whatever goal Mommy 4th has in mind (the big plan I presume).

If MC doesn't train enough he's useless and thus not needed (boof, dead)

She wants the MC to progress but not too slow or too fast, just right enough so if need be she can put the MC down like a dog when the time comes for her ultimate plan.

How I view Ella's reaction to the MC's appearance in dead end 8 wasn't that of a friend or anything of the sort. She warned the MC not to rush his evolutions or he could fall into well monsterification which I can only imagine thats what she thought he fell into (not arbiter, I'm quite certain she has zero clue about that).

Her reaction is understandable, the MC was a worthy pawn to her goal and now he's gone, nothing more than a monster to be put down like Kenny.
 

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Now my question is; why DOES she kill us early on so much? SOMETHING happened after the end of our Training Arc. Ella has to be the most mix signaled and interesting person I've ever read. Let's break it down, I'll try not to be biased:



1. She apparently KNOWS us PRIOR to the beginning of the game; almost in an "obsessed?", close way.

2. We meet her and she gives us to the 3rd & 4th for powers. This is all for whatever plan she has?

3. Tells us to get stronger and sends various tests to kill us/strengthen us. If we die, we aren't worthy to carry into her plans to begin with, explaining sending Jake, Kenny, etc.

Dead End 4. Takes us to the 4th after we...progress too fast? It's in handcuffs but was it to actually kill us? Nothing good sure but death? I doubt it. We had only been doing EXACTLY what she wanted us to do just faster than anticipated sooo what gives? Regardless whatever it was, it was PART of her plans and up to the 4th. Remember; she DOESN'T work FOR the 4th or 3rd.

Dead End 5. We tell her about the Memory trait via the jellyfish move. This leads her to SHOCK and then murdering us. Why? We don't know. Perhaps because she thought SHE would be replaced as the 3rd & 4th's chosen??? Leading me to my next point...

6. She obtains Lvl 5, the 3rd (presumably) speaks to her and she says she ISN'T the one, whatever that means. Perhaps she thought she'd obtain the Memory trait after evolving? She does mention that Lvl 5s get "missions" "purposes" from their progenitors by that point if I'm not mistaken. Anywho, she mentions; must it be us? As if she had lost whatever major part of the plan she wanted to take the role of, leading yet again to my next point...

7. Our last Training Arc she comes off as...vulnerable? Almost defeated, as if she WANTS us to beat her and stop her plan (refer to Dracula, from Netflix Castlevania; she wants to die but has a drive to keep resisting until someone stops her?) Anyways her whole attitude of somberness pretty much stays with us, leading to my next point...

Dead End 8. She seems sad that we lose ourselves to the Arbiter. It's not a "I just lost my expendable piece of my puzzle" but more of a "close friend". Interesting consider the 'start' of our relationship?

Sidenotes:
A. She kills us for killing Christine, this was an impulsive act, we killed her best friend. She even seems pissed by the action.
B. She's collecting Monster hearts to combine them into the Arbiter's hearts and using them in some 'weird dark ritual'; Aglaecwif states.
C. At SOME point of time she finds out we have the dual trait but DOESN'T hunt us down for it like she does previously in the Jellyfish Dead End.
D. She knows BOTH our parents (refer to the pussy tentacle bedroom scene). If she doesn't have the Memory trait, and our Mom died during our youth, Dad is never around...HOW does she relate our parents to hers?



Sooo what gives? I'm getting mixed signals here. My guess is by the point of the end of the Training Arc, or even after we defeat Jake AND Deryl (Twice); we had already passed the threshold of irreplaceability. She does mentions she's on a time table to get her plan done, so while Kenny failed to be a replacement at first, she does mention there were others she could turn to replace us because we were WEAK, but now we've already progressed TOO far AND she learned she wasn't "worthy" upon Lvl 5. It does make me wonder though, because Point 1. claims she actually was INVESTED in us on a personal level PRIOR to our original in-game meeting. So did we mean so little to her even with the personal connection? Did our worthiness later on make it personal more than her "interest" in us at the beginning? What gives? And before anyone says she's JUST crazy, she is; but when it comes to her plans she doesn't do ANYTHING without a reason.
Back to preaching Ellaism I see. Gotta catch up dude, dogclapper numbers are growing by the hour, especially after your high priest Gtdead left the cult.

On whatever the hell is Ella's deal, isn't making the MC (or anybody else for that matter) completely clueless the goal here? I mean, gaslighting is one of the core tenets of Ellaism after all :KEK:
 

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Back to preaching Ellaism I see. Gotta catch up dude, dogclapper numbers are growing by the hour, especially after your high priest Gtdead left the cult.

On whatever the hell is Ella's deal, isn't making the MC (or anybody else for that matter) completely clueless the goal here? I mean, gaslighting is one of the core tenets of Ellaism after all :KEK:
Wait when did Gtdead join, become the High Priest, AND leave the cult? I thought I was the High Priest via the Drako Wars :LUL: Anyways I don't preach Ella often because I just get a lot of sass from the commun and have come to realize that
A. I just like crazy women
and
B. Lisa is love, Lisa is life...
And this wasn't Ella dick riding this was questioning the Ellaism tenants. I still have hope for her and the plan tho, especially if Deus likes it.
 

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Honestly the more I look at Lisa the more I wish she is truly a Yandere.

The great sage better give us some fucking backshots with her I swear to mommy 4th!
On GOD brother! She's got some nice ass titties tho so I'd assume W.W will be a FUCKtard again with these goddamn angles...

Just ONE scene, that's all I ask. I'll join the Dogclappers completely, I'll burn Ella at the stake, I'll suck off necromater, ANYTHING! Just give me Yandere, or at the very least; A S S.
 

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Early on, we weren't bonded with the Arbiter. Maybe she did have a way to transfer it while it was still unconscious, which is why she brought us to the 4th? Maybe she put her plan above her personal feelings at that time too. Ella's not in love with the MC early into the game. She's obsessed with him sure but not willing to throw her plan away for him. No matter what, the MC was going to die there. If he wasn't, she wouldn't have to force him in the first place. Even if the "death" involved someone or something else taking over his body, MC himself would still be "dead" at the end.

As for why she doesn't do it after we reached Level 2, where it's assumed that she found out? From my view, it became too late. Whatever she wanted to do can't happen anymore since the Arbiter is awake and bonded to the MC along with the 4th or 3rd. They don't have any reason to do it Ella's way. Maybe the Arbiter itself intervened and made them do it another way?

All I do know is, she won't hesitate to kill or have the MC killed. Him having Dual Traits won't stop her. Even if he's the only known one. Jake failed and yet she still out there plotting on MC. And you know what's fucked up? Not only did she not tell them to not kill the MC, she told them the MC's power in great detail so they can kill him even easier. For someone who needs a dual trait spawn, she's definitely out there trying to make sure he's at a disadvantage at all times. Almost like she's lowkey butthurt she didn't get both.
 

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Wait when did Gtdead join, become the High Priest, AND leave the cult? I thought I was the High Priest via the Drako Wars :LUL: Anyways I don't preach Ella often because I just get a lot of sass from the commun and have come to realize that
A. I just like crazy women
and
B. Lisa is love, Lisa is life...
And this wasn't Ella dick riding this was questioning the Ellaism tenants. I still have hope for her and the plan tho, especially if Deus likes it.
Oof, I thought you were the pope and he was a high priest. Got them titles mixed up, my bad.
Gonna pass on a Yandere character, got enough crazy people irl already :HideThePain:. If we get a Tsundere with thick thighs somewhere in the future, though...
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Early on, we weren't bonded with the Arbiter. Maybe she did have a way to transfer it while it was still unconscious, which is why she brought us to the 4th? Maybe she put her plan above her personal feelings at that time too. Ella's not in love with the MC early into the game. She's obsessed with him sure but not willing to throw her plan away for him. No matter what, the MC was going to die there. If he wasn't, she wouldn't have to force him in the first place. Even if the "death" involved someone or something else taking over his body, MC himself would still be "dead" at the end.

As for why she doesn't do it after we reached Level 2, where it's assumed that she found out? From my view, it became too late. Whatever she wanted to do can't happen anymore since the Arbiter is awake and bonded to the MC along with the 4th or 3rd. They don't have any reason to do it Ella's way. Maybe the Arbiter itself, intervened and made them do it another way?

All I do know is, she won't hesitate to kill or have the MC killed. Him having Dual Traits won't stop her. Even if he's the only known one. Jake failed and yet she still out their plotting on him. And you know what's fucked up? Not only did she not tell them to not kill the MC, she told them the MC's power in great detail so they can kill him even easier. For someone who needs a dual trait spawn, she's definitely out there trying to make sure he's at a disadvantage at all times. Almost like she's lowkey butthurt she didn't get both.
I agree with everything else but again, she sends them to kill us to "train" us, not because she's petty. If I'm not mistaken she tells Jake about our powers because he WAS at a disadvantage at the time. As SHITTY as the method is, it does work. What was it Michael said? That he was being held back cooped up at H.E.R.O when he could've been out in fights gaining experience and unlocking his powers. I doubt we ever would've grown as fast as we have without Ella's hard ass mean push for success + set up scenarios. It was all our work sure, but those scenarios don't come on a silver platter for everyone. I guess I have, at the very least, a level of respect for her along with an annoyed hatred for the shit she's put us through. It's like if God gave you powers but cursed you to get hit with a life threatening fucking sonic boom at random moments. You love the benefits but hate the drawbacks. I like how fast we advanced because of her, but I hate her WAY of advancing us/uncaring of us.

Off topic kinda but what I find funny is how shit H.E.R.O was at stopping all these events when most were so public. A national news Massacre, a PM Office slaughter, and a Crime Sindicate War. They had toes dipped in some of it but for a Global Reach Org they sure couldn't handle their backyard :ROFLMAO:
 

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Off topic kinda but what I find funny is how shit H.E.R.O was at stopping all these events when most were so public. A national news Massacre, a PM Office slaughter, and a Crime Sindicate War. They had toes dipped in some of it but for a Global Reach Org they sure couldn't handle their backyard :ROFLMAO:
If the time lords are anything to go by perhaps some of those events needed to happen for whatever end goal they and HERO have.

Or they (time lords) just didnt give a fuck and wanted to have break time...just picture the time lords goin out: gettin their hair did, nails on point, and nice massage...the whole fucking 9 yards ya know.
 

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Actually...thinking about it some more...who's going to fuckin fact check the time lords? The 2 of em could easily lie to HERO any time to make some event go how 'they' (the time lords) want it for whatever narrative they want and just sprinkle in some favorable things for HERO to make it seem like they are on the up and up.
 
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I agree with everything else but again, she sends them to kill us to "train" us, not because she's petty. If I'm not mistaken she tells Jake about our powers because he WAS at a disadvantage at the time. As SHITTY as the method is, it does work. What was it Michael said? That he was being held back cooped up at H.E.R.O when he could've been out in fights gaining experience and unlocking his powers. I doubt we ever would've grown as fast as we have without Ella's hard ass mean push for success + set up scenarios. It was all our work sure, but those scenarios don't come on a silver platter for everyone. I guess I have, at the very least, a level of respect for her along with an annoyed hatred for the shit she's put us through. It's like if God gave you powers but cursed you to get hit with a life threatening fucking sonic boom at random moments. You love the benefits but hate the drawbacks. I like how fast we advanced because of her, but I hate her WAY of advancing us/uncaring of us.

Off topic kinda but what I find funny is how shit H.E.R.O was at stopping all these events when most were so public. A national news Massacre, a PM Office slaughter, and a Crime Sindicate War. They had toes dipped in some of it but for a Global Reach Org they sure couldn't handle their backyard :ROFLMAO:
? She doesn't send them to train us though :KEK:. Why the hell would Cole or Hex trying to kill us be training? I'm not referring to earlier in game by the way. I'm talking about current content. She told Langy and SIN all about our powers and that we have the memory trait. That is pure salt at it's finest because a bunch of Level 1s and 2s aren't training. Even they were butthurt by all her dick riding. She didn't have to tell them all of our powers like that. Though, we reached Level 3 now and her info is likely outdated some.
 

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Actually...thinking about it some more...who's going to fuckin fact check the time lords? The 2 of em could easily lie to HERO any time to make some event go how 'they' (the time lords) want it for whatever narrative they want and just sprinkle in some favorable things for HERO to make it seem like they are on the up and up.
I was just about to dive into that via your first comment.

Deus is nefarious FOR SURE, but Zack? Maybe not...IF my theory is correct and Zack was the one that stopped the Monster Massacring Ella's Middleschool (or at least tried to) and got injured in the process; he seems like the type to put the job (stopping the monsters) first. Compare that to Deus, who's actively letting Ella get away with shit and helping Valravn after he just massacred a cafe, I'd say he's on the good end of the spectrum of Time Lords.

Difference is, all those events I mentioned, happened when Zack was out of commission. He even SAYS he can't use his powers at the meeting when Nico asks (even if he wanted to). Butttt now he's back (somewhat), so there's a chance that Ella won't get away with as much as she has. If Deus starts saying one thing while Zack sees another it'll get feisty. In fact now that I think about it Ella CONVENIENTLY is stopped JUST before Zack starts to get his powers back in operation. Either that's for plot convenience on W.W's side or Deus saw that hiccup (Zack recovery) coming and chose to shut Ella down (victory is assured) for a little while (much like Ella's message). While I know they aren't working together, their timings are awfully S U S.
 

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? She doesn't send them to train us though :KEK:. Why the hell would Cole or Hex trying to kill us be training? I'm not referring to earlier in game by the way. I'm talking about current content. She told Langy and SIN all about our powers and that we have the memory trait. That is pure salt at it's finest because a bunch of Level 1s and 2s aren't training. Even they were butthurt by all her dick riding. She didn't have to tell them all of our powers like that. Though, we reached Level 3 now and her info is likely outdated some.
OOO that's RIGHT! I forgot about that :ROFLMAO:
Ya dick move but not unexpected from her playbook. I think she says that while she can't TEACH us anything anymore, and that joining H.E.R.O is probably for the best (via Cole chat); she was still going to try to keep us on our toes. lvl 1s & 2s are dogshit they ain't gonna hurt us. As for Cole it's clear he's the next challenge, either set up by W.W via Laurie beef (and cuntism) or by Ella to yet again further our growth. Remember the scenarios themselves are up to US to learn and grow from, she just throws them at us and hopes for the best. Maybe she got tired of us sitting at Lvl 2 (it WAS a long wait) and wanted to speed us up but by that point we were already on the move to 3.

On that hunting note, I'd be FAR more relaxed if we got rid of this FUCKIN goofy ass mortal weakness of electricity, fearing the next time someone whips out a goddamn taser. It's not even funny at this point. If we don't get rid of it by Lvl 4 but I can still not age, breath, sleep, or eat; imma be PISSED!
 

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Now that I think about it there HAD to be an unnatural reason for our mortal weakness to electricity...I don't think there is a single Superhuman or even Monster that has a 100% proof way to kill them pretty much instantly to something so common as electricity. Even the Lvl 1s & 2s don't have such a weakness, Monster or otherwise. Sure they have weaknesses to others' strengths (like us with fire) but to INSTANTANEOUSLY DIE to something so mundane? Nah, Klaus was shooting fucking LAZERS and had an invincible shield. We are a direct descendant with dual traits but get out asses handed to us by a zap? I don't buy it. Perhaps there is a deeper connection to it?
 
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