jjtom000

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Yeah...Henri and Bernhardt are both natural 5s and chosen themselves. This seems to be a massive thing that HERO are hiding...natural 5s all basically have to be chosen of some vastly powerful entity and they are all vastly better than serum evolved 5s. This might also be what Dr. Xanthe means when he says that the MC might have already failed a requirement for a natural 5th evolution because the MC's 3rd was basically a serum induced evolution...but he doesn't know about eye origin now connected to the MC.

It might also be precisely what makes a natural 5th evolution so dangerous and why there are trials nobody wants to talk about. Having to face vastly powerful entities who can just erase you from existence on a whim in hopes of gaining their support would make a natural 5th evolution extremely dangerous. Having to fight and potentially defeat a chosen might also be another. Going for a natural 5th evolution would basically guarantee death or success with very low chance of the latter.
You have to be a direct spawn from apostle to be a chosen, and Malik and Bern are definitely not it as they monster parents are pretty weak
 

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They were definitely holding back and not just because mom said it, Devana herself admitted that she was just fucking around and was about to summon a monster much more dangerous than before if not for Shen stopping her.

And I don't quite understand what do you mean by harder time, as through out the whole fight the only successful damage MC inflicted on the twin is only due to element of surprise, as the twin though Shen had subdued MC and were ill prepared for his sudden retaliation, it's noting more than a lucky shot really.

If they were to go all out from the start, Devana will summon her doggy that was dangerous even for MC for a 3v1, Evander will start using name moves like when he was against Met, and if the worst come to it one of them can combine both of their power to utilize moves far above that of a normal lv 3 caliber. Fighting the twin alone is an extremely dangerous endeavor even for MC and definitely not as easy as some of the people here might think.

In this updated even the MC admit that the smarter approach of fighting them will be having another equally powerful ally to fight them simultaneously.
Big girl summoning a dog to kill a flying MC. I'm sure that would go amazing for her in an actual battle.

This "Cerberus" scene is so obviously cringeworthy that I wonder how people can take it seriously.
Big girl is so angry that instead of asking her brother to just slap MC's battered and unconscious body into non-existence, she summons the big bad dog to eat MC, probably waking him up and giving him a chance to regenerate inside the monster's stomach, going for 4th round.

Hopefully by the time MC faces the twins again, they will actually have some serious training, because if I see one more defensive bunker I'll die from laughter.
 

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I choose Life, Death or Resurrection, Heart and Hope. So what did I get?

Didn't see anyone mentioned what you get from choosing Life instead of Human.
 

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Big girl summoning a dog to kill a flying MC. I'm sure that would go amazing for her in an actual battle.

This "Cerberus" scene is so obviously cringeworthy that I wonder how people can take it seriously.
Big girl is so angry that instead of asking her brother to just slap MC's battered and unconscious body into non-existence, she summons the big bad dog to eat MC, probably waking him up and giving him a chance to regenerate inside the monster's stomach, going for 4th round.

Hopefully by the time MC faces the twins again, they will actually have some serious training, because if I see one more defensive bunker I'll die from laughter.
MC will not be flying if she keep summoning bombs on his wing. It was shown that the bomb appeared so fast that even MC couldn't react to it and it was powerful enough to bomb his tails to pieces much less his wing. Realistically MC will be grounded by Devana bombs, lose his mobility advantage and forced to fight a 1v3 on solid ground with opponents that can chew through his mess much faster than he can regenerate, good luck with that.
 
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MC will not be flying if she keep summoning bomb on his wing. It was shown that the bomb appeared so fast that even MC couldn't react to it and it's powerful enough to bomb his tails to pieces much less his wing. Realistically MC will be grounded by Devana bomb and forced to fight a 1v3 on solid ground.
1. MC can use his tails to suspend himself in the air.
2. MC can fly at Mach9 and rebuild his wings in an instant in his light form. Bombs aren't enough to force him to the ground if he doesn't want to.
3. Devana doesn't have any defenses (yet), so staying and spamming bombs just makes her a target for a stray tail.
4. She can't both use her bunker and spam bombs at the same time because she needs line of sight and MC can easily snipe her through slits because his tails are autonomous and can do the targeting themselves.
5. MC can just hide himself behind his huge tails and Devana won't have line of sight to bomb his wings

If Devana has the ability to just keep destroying MC's wings, then why didn't she when Evander was trying his damnest to connect? Instead she had her Bakunawa playing ping pong with him.

The only reason MC had trouble in this fight was because he had to protect his friends. Otherwise he would just use hit and run tactics and he has way higher mobility than the twins. He was forced to fight against 2 unknowns and Evander has a counter power.

There are a myriad things Devana can do to get better at fighting, starting with an armored suit, a way to fly by herself and creating monsters that are more glass-cannony so despite dying to a single hit, they pack a punch. Till she improves though, there is nothing

Having access to nuclear bombs or stronger monsters doesn't really mean anything for her combat power. She needs better applications.
MC also has enough firepower to penetrate pretty much anything with that spear form of his, but it's almost impossible to use in most fights because it needs time to build, enough space and a stationary target.
 

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You have to be a direct spawn from apostle to be a chosen, and Malik and Bern are definitely not it as they monster parents are pretty weak
They are definitely chosen by something...not apostles but they are bound to some vastly powerful entities. Whether they are spawns of those entities...probably not. Just as the MC is not the spawn of the entity that chose him...the weird eye thing without a name calling itself an origin.
 
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You have to be a direct spawn from apostle to be a chosen, and Malik and Bern are definitely not it as they monster parents are pretty weak
Not necessarily.
The Eye and MC are "Chosen" according to second evolution dialogue, yet he is the spawn of either Body or Memory, and MC can't be a chosen of any of them because the Eye is supposed to be higher in hierarchy.

Also the way the Eye speaks, is like MC is chosen by a God or something. It's very complicated and we don't have any information at all on how this works.
 

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Not necessarily.
The Eye and MC are "Chosen" according to second evolution dialogue, yet he is the spawn of either Body or Memory, and MC can't be a chosen of any of them because the Eye is supposed to be higher in hierarchy.
Man if the MC can keep his mind together while accepting that thing he will be something special...but I suspect that won't happen until 5th evolution. I kinda suspect that's what the the dangerous trials will be for.
 
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Man if the MC can keep his mind together while accepting that thing he will be something special...but I suspect that won't happen until 5th evolution. I kinda suspect that's what the the dangerous trials will be for.
I'm under the impression that perfectly joining with the Eye will be part of a high corruption ending. During the monster dreams while still in college, there's this:

Unknown "More."
Unknown "We need more."
You "H-Huh? *snore*"
Unknown "Every opportunity. Every single one. Always devour. Always."
Unknown "Our end requires it."

Feels like a fourth wall break because I have a hard time picturing how MC becoming all powerful will mean their "end" and even if we assume that it means MC will somehow change the divine status quo in a very grand manner, using the word "end" is a bit iffy.
Add to it that the Eye tells you that you need to consume in order to achieve the heights of power.
So it makes sense.
The non corruption endings will probably deal with the Eye in some other way.

As for the level 5 trials, I have some theories, but I think the crux of the matter will be for MC to formally inherit the Evolution trait. Of course I expect the Eye to play into this somehow but at this point I really can't tell to what degree.
 

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I'm under the impression that perfectly joining with the Eye will be part of a high corruption ending. During the monster dreams while still in college, there's this:

Unknown "More."
Unknown "We need more."
You "H-Huh? *snore*"
Unknown "Every opportunity. Every single one. Always devour. Always."
Unknown "Our end requires it."

Feels like a fourth wall break because I have a hard time picturing how MC becoming all powerful will mean their "end" and even if we assume that it means MC will somehow change the divine status quo in a very grand manner, using the word "end" is a bit iffy.
Add to it that the Eye tells you that you need to consume in order to achieve the heights of power.
So it makes sense.
The non corruption endings will probably deal with the Eye in some other way.

As for the level 5 trials, I have some theories, but I think the crux of the matter will be for MC to formally inherit the Evolution trait. Of course I expect the Eye to play into this somehow but at this point I really can't tell to what degree.
During Evolution 3 when it asks if you accept its proposal it tells you that it wants you to eat some people...so it might not necessarily require max corruption or very high corruption but eating people is its thing...you can probably still avoid a ton of corruption by using the helmet, etc. You might even be able to eat everyone you can and still remain under 30 I think and I don't think you have to eat the corpse of the monster stalking Angelina either. We'll have to see how it plays out when we do get to the end game.
 

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I wonder if SH2 will continue with the same MC...probably not if I had to guess because there would be too many variables to account for including end game, which SH will likely have a few different endings. For sequel I imagine probably unrelated story with different cast of characters with maybe small cameos.

But I mean I don't see how this game could end before MC reaches 5th evolution and given how long it took to get just from 3rd until now with 2 evolutions to go and likely several massive boss fights including the 5th evolution trials...I don't see how that can all be wrapped up before the end of this year when 1.0 is supposed to launch.
Na no need to worry about that SH 2 will be the same mc and the cast because WW already Stated multiple characters of ours still not getting their arcs Michael, Tiffany,Emily and even Ella has a lot of content left as he said in his stream.So simply saying these are only the characters arcs left apart from these multiple other things are left as well.Superhuman 2 will be about mc maybe the biggest difference would be some Big timeskip he wants to do.
 

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During Evolution 3 when it asks if you accept its proposal it tells you that it wants you to eat some people...so it might not necessarily require max corruption or very high corruption but eating people is its thing...you can probably still avoid a ton of corruption by using the helmet, etc. You might even be able to eat everyone you can and still remain under 30 I think and I don't think you have to eat the corpse of the monster stalking Angelina either. We'll have to see how it plays out when we do get to the end game.
This is fair, although keep in mind that the consumption thing hasn't been explored fully. For example during the 2nd evolution, Memory tells MC to consume Alice. If even a main LI is a potential consumption target, then you can see how it can ramp up and the difficulties in maintaining a playthrough that keeps all options open.

I'm in the process of making a guide that maximizes power and consumes all the necessary targets without getting past the 30 corruption limit. I'm not sure if it's going to be sustainable in the future, but it may yield some interesting results.
 

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1. MC can use his tails to suspend himself in the air.
2. MC can fly at Mach9 and rebuild his wings in an instant in his light form. Bombs aren't enough to force him to the ground if he doesn't want to.
3. Devana doesn't have any defenses (yet), so staying and spamming bombs just makes her a target for a stray tail.
4. She can't both use her bunker and spam bombs at the same time because she needs line of sight and MC can easily snipe her through slits because his tails are autonomous and can do the targeting themselves.
5. MC can just hide himself behind his huge tails and Devana won't have line of sight to bomb his wings

If Devana has the ability to just keep destroying MC's wings, then why didn't she when Evander was trying his damnest to connect? Instead she had her Bakunawa playing ping pong with him.

The only reason MC had trouble in this fight was because he had to protect his friends. Otherwise he would just use hit and run tactics and he has way higher mobility than the twins. He was forced to fight against 2 unknowns and Evander has a counter power.

There are a myriad things Devana can do to get better at fighting, starting with an armored suit, a way to fly by herself and creating monsters that are more glass-cannony so despite dying to a single hit, they pack a punch. Till she improves though, there is nothing

Having access to nuclear bombs or stronger monsters doesn't really mean anything for her combat power. She needs better applications.
MC also has enough firepower to penetrate pretty much anything with that spear form of his, but it's almost impossible to use in most fights because it needs time to build, enough space and a stationary target.
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I'm under the impression that perfectly joining with the Eye will be part of a high corruption ending. During the monster dreams while still in college, there's this:

Unknown "More."
Unknown "We need more."
You "H-Huh? *snore*"
Unknown "Every opportunity. Every single one. Always devour. Always."
Unknown "Our end requires it."

Feels like a fourth wall break because I have a hard time picturing how MC becoming all powerful will mean their "end" and even if we assume that it means MC will somehow change the divine status quo in a very grand manner, using the word "end" is a bit iffy.
Add to it that the Eye tells you that you need to consume in order to achieve the heights of power.
So it makes sense.
The non corruption endings will probably deal with the Eye in some other way.

As for the level 5 trials, I have some theories, but I think the crux of the matter will be for MC to formally inherit the Evolution trait. Of course I expect the Eye to play into this somehow but at this point I really can't tell to what degree.
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They are definitely chosen by something...not apostles but they are bound to some vastly powerful entities. Whether they are spawns of those entities...probably not. Just as the MC is not the spawn of the entity that chose him...the weird eye thing without a name calling itself an origin.
I'm sorry, could you point to the lines that made you think so? From Dead End 43 we get that Malik is "Completed, but kept whole by faith.", Henri is "Ascendant, yet still unborn." and Bernhardt is "Old, but somehow... Unbound". Where do you get that they've been chosen by something?
 
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I'm sorry, could you point to the lines that made you think so? From Dead End 43 we get that Malik is "Completed, but kept whole by faith.", Henry is "Ascendant, yet still unborn." and Bernhardt is "Old, but somehow... Unbound". Where do you get that they've been chosen by something?
The idea is a bit complex, but it looks like this:
1. Eisheth tells us that Bernhardt is the spawn of a fairly weak monster. MC tells us that fire monsters are dime-a-dozen and insinuates that Malik is one such spawn.
2. Vestige tells us that Henri possesses the power of a long forgotten deity.
3. Malik, Bernhardt and Henri are fairly equal in power
4. The Eye recognises those 3 as special entities
5. The word "Chosen" doesn't apply only to the Apostle Chosen, but to MC with the Eye too, as per 2nd evolution dialogue.

So based on all these and considering that Bernhardt/Malik did not start out as some sort of god-spawn, it stands to reason that those 3 are Chosen. The particulars are unknown at this point.
 

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The idea is a bit complex, but it looks like this:
1. Eisheth tells us that Bernhardt is the spawn of a fairly weak monster. MC tells us that fire monsters are dime-a-dozen and insinuates that Malik is one such spawn.
2. Vestige tells us that Henri possesses the power of a long forgotten deity.
3. Malik, Bernhardt and Henri are fairly equal in power
4. The Eye recognises those 3 as special entities
5. The word "Chosen" doesn't apply only to the Apostle Chosen, but to MC with the Eye too, as per 2nd evolution dialogue.

So based on all these and considering that Bernhardt/Malik did not start out as some sort of god-spawn, it stands to reason that those 3 are Chosen. The particulars are unknown at this point.
I am not gonna lie, that seems like a stretch on several points.
1) Though Henri posses the strength of a long forgotten deity, it's "born anew". Could it not mean that he simply fulfilled the same conditions for getting that power, without being chosen by anything conscious?
2) Why the assumption that the only way to equal the aforementioned strength is by being chosen by something? Couldn't Bernhardt and maybe Malik simply be gigachads whose strength grew to equal gods by their own efforts?

All in all, that seems like a fair theory, but I wouldn't say it's "definitely" true.
 
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