MisterNephilim

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Now that I have cooled down I have a question and then some theories/insights/comments

The question: I can't quite remember but what was the thing that Charlie did to "mark" MC's heart? And what was the inmediate consequences of it?

The theories, insights and comments: Ok so "Big" Ella is "dead", sort of. She is in a dream or another dimension and MC while dreaming could contact her, and she wasn't aware that it was him that revived "Doll" Ella so there are weird shenanigans going on here.

Theory 1: Could it be that "Mom" is MC's twin (genetically speaking) due to science/magic shenanigans? As in, she gave birth to her own twin in a sense. It was her purpose because as she said, she had seggs that one time. Anyways, she's awesome.

Also, it would seem that MC's "dream" is a dream sometimes, and other times he can access alternate futures, universes and even the planes of other people. If he retains that ability after this whole ordeal, he is going to be so absurdly strong its going to be hilarious.

Maybe he'll kickstart to lvl 5 after this.


But after the transformation?
That's something else, especially if you're not the type gifted with regeneration.
For now, two possible explanations are offered.
Another possibility is that MC's power evolution could play into regenerating other's peoples body part. He already modified people in the prison scenes, with a boost in power who knows what modifications he could do.
 

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Now that I have cooled down I have a question and then some theories/insights/comments

The question: I can't quite remember but what was the thing that Charlie did to "mark" MC's heart? And what was the inmediate consequences of it?

The theories, insights and comments: Ok so "Big" Ella is "dead", sort of. She is in a dream or another dimension and MC while dreaming could contact her, and she wasn't aware that it was him that revived "Doll" Ella so there are weird shenanigans going on here.

Theory 1: Could it be that "Mom" is MC's twin (genetically speaking) due to science/magic shenanigans? As in, she gave birth to her own twin in a sense. It was her purpose because as she said, she had seggs that one time. Anyways, she's awesome.

Also, it would seem that MC's "dream" is a dream sometimes, and other times he can access alternate futures, universes and even the planes of other people. If he retains that ability after this whole ordeal, he is going to be so absurdly strong its going to be hilarious.

Maybe he'll kickstart to lvl 5 after this.
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I kinda get that Mom is a pure child of one of the 12, but that gives me more reason to believe that MC is a perfect copy (but XY) after getting the power, maybe purging part of the Dad genetics with the transformation, because he really doesn't look like the father at all, and Fem MC is almost identical to Mom
 
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Also, it would seem that MC's "dream" is a dream sometimes, and other times he can access alternate futures, universes and even the planes of other people. If he retains that ability after this whole ordeal, he is going to be so absurdly strong its going to be hilarious.
Unlikely.

Rather, it is more likely that during sleep he can enter the dreams of other superhumans that he has either absorbed or has a very strong relationship with. It was mentioned several times that it was all just a dream and even his friends were aware of it. For example, Claudia seems to be secretly in love with MC and dreams of him marrying her one day, but also has nightmares because of how the last wedding she helped organize turned out. It was dream, not a future that MC would travel to.

Another possibility is that MC's power evolution could play into regenerating other's peoples body part. He already modified people in the prison scenes, with a boost in power who knows what modifications he could do.
I'm not sure it will work on other Superhumans.
The human body is quite simple and consists of commonly available elements.

But the Superhuman body is much more complicated and each one is unique.
It also contains some type of energy that no one can replicate and that we still don't fully understand.

I'm not saying that MC can't modify another Superhuman's body, I'm just saying that we can't automatically assume that just because he can do it with a normal human's body. For now, we haven't even seen him treat another Superhuman's injuries.

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For now, I am not convinced that "mom" is really his mom. It is possible that she is only a part of his own mind that helps him to evolve. She was simply formed based on his own memories of his mother + some genetically inherited memories of the monster that transformed him. I guess we'll know for sure in the next update.
 

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But after the transformation?
That's something else, especially if you're not the type gifted with regeneration.
For now, two possible explanations are offered.
that's the point, they're not superhumans yet , Tanos said that what remains of their bodies at been found and he have to adminster the serum just before their ascension to establish the connection , and they have technology to keep them alive even in that state
 

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Unlikely.

Rather, it is more likely that during sleep he can enter the dreams of other superhumans that he has either absorbed or has a very strong relationship with. It was mentioned several times that it was all just a dream and even his friends were aware of it.
The visit to Charlie is the one that makes me question if it is a dream at all, because he interacted with that tall black dude first.

MC also visited Deus's weird memory/plane thingy, and the green haired lady (can't remember the name at the moment) in her "River Styx".
 

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I'm not saying that MC can't modify another Superhuman's body, I'm just saying that we can't automatically assume that just because he can do it with a normal human's body. For now, we haven't even seen him treat another Superhuman's injuries.
he potentialy can with Laurie
 
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that's the point, they're not superhumans yet , Tanos said that what remains of their bodies at been found and he have to adminster the serum just before their ascension to establish the connection , and they have technology to keep them alive even in that state
Honestly, we still (at least we as players) are not 100% sure how exactly the transformation working.
For example, in the case of Ella, it was enough to get a pill and after monster attack, there still must had to be large enough piece of meat left from your body. Did the pills that the twins got have a similar effect? We don't know that yet. We can't even be sure if the twins (those still living) have already reached the first evolution.

he potentialy can with Laurie
Good reminder, I forgot about that.
Although in this case trying to hold together the existing body rather than adding or changing anything.

But on the other hand, Ella was able to change the bodies of other Superhumans.
Although I guess turning someone into a tree is a lot less complicated than it would be the other way around.

The visit to Charlie is the one that makes me question if it is a dream at all, because he interacted with that tall black dude first.

MC also visited Deus's weird memory/plane thingy, and the green haired lady (can't remember the name at the moment) in her "River Styx".
The tall guy in black is weird and we have no idea how exactly his abilities work or what he can do :)
Nyx is connected to the MC because she owns part of his soul. MC simply took advantage of this connection.
Charlie has obviously done something to us, but we don't know what.
 
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The tall guy in black is weird and we have no idea how exactly his abilities work or what he can do :)
Nyx is connected to the MC because she owns part of his soul. MC simply took advantage of this connection.
Charlie has obviously done something to us, but we don't know what.
We now exactly who he is and what he can do ^^
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MC also visited Deus's weird memory/plane thingy, and the green haired lady (can't remember the name at the moment) in her "River Styx".
That's Nyx but her hair is black, she does have a green motif though, but she's a true black and white goth mommy.
 

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That's Nyx but her hair is black, she does have a green motif though, but she's a true black and white goth mommy.
Her, thanks!

Oh, you mean this tall guy in black?
We now exactly who he is and what he can do ^^

To my defense, I said tall black dude, not tall dude in black lol. But yeah, the fact that MC appeared in front of Oscar (who doesn't seem to have any mind powrs at all), interacted with him and then with Charlie, makes me believe that MC didn't visit Charlie's mind but maybe Charlie's plane/house/whatever.
 
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Her, thanks!






To my defense, I said tall black dude, not tall dude in black lol. But yeah, the fact that MC appeared in front of Oscar (who doesn't seem to have any mind powrs at all), interacted with him and then with Charlie, makes me believe that MC didn't visit Charlie's mind but maybe Charlie's plane/house/whatever.
Or it could've been a dream of Charlie that desires to stay at her home with his brother Oscar, and that's why we see him there as in the real world he's dead
 

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Charlie has casted a taboo/command on MC from their last fight. Perhaps she even casted one from their very first meeting under Ella's instruction.

I'm 99% that this is why he connected with her, especially with the bit about breaking it being painful.

I kinda get that Mom is a pure child of one of the 12, but that gives me more reason to believe that MC is a perfect copy (but XY) after getting the power, maybe purging part of the Dad genetics with the transformation, because he really doesn't look like the father at all, and Fem MC is almost identical to Mom
This is highly unlikely. Syla says that MC is a lot like his father who is pure Body and that's the reason he took to his Body so quickly. And MC's love for his father is player's decision. You can choose if you like him or not in one of Emily's events. Even if MC was angry with his father for holding information about his mother's death, he can forgive him.
 
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