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Ok by guide I meant like... A good guy guide. The best playthrough kind of guide(in my opinion) would be one where I am a good person but I still follow a harem route.
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You don't really need guide for harem route. You pretty much have to opt out, with quite obvious choices, from getting in pants of any and all fuckable characters.
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You have a very varied rooster of fertile females for making little Eldrich spawns of course as long infertility of the Superman is not a fact in that case just a team to do tentacle play. LOL
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I mean, seeing as the MC first evolution was able to seriously wound Ella and keep her regeneration at bay in the bad ending Ella route, and at his second evolution later stages he could basically fight one at his evolution like it was nothing and fight monsters on their third and is already able to morph other people, i wouldn't be surprised if our boy is powerful enough later on to be able to make himself and other sups fertile again for the sake of his Harem.
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Ella wasn't trying in that fight, when she strattles you; she pretty much kicks your ass and lets you know she can. I think it was more so a surprise you grew faster than anticipated. But make no mistake, this latest update truly showed the difference between an Evolution.
Ella seems to have a time table, she wants you to grow fast but not TOO fast as to skip past her little bubble of guidance. Example being if you reveal your secret weapon (jellyfish). Notice she cares not for huge boots in power, but only when it's puppeted by her. Example also being helping you achieve metal, giving you challenges, knowing about Klaus and seeing how you'd handle it. But the second you do something out of term it's pretty much death. I know not for the reasoning, nor for the guestimated know it all theories behind them. But those are the facts so far.
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The spawn of might looked at the void eyes of the one who once was his brother in arms and asked what have you become? The father of monsters was the answer he was gifted before his mind meld with all the others he once knew so he would not have to behold the dawn of the protean from the husk that was mankind.
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I know about the taken care of flag. Which is used in the game not if Erik lives, but when you actually speak to Lucy. If you speak to Lucy about Erik's location, she pleads for you to let her keep her job to support her sickly daughter. You can say not to worry and that she will be taken care of, but then can go and do the exact opposite by killing Erik. There is no indication of mention that she is EVER well off after that fact.
It is only during sparing Erik, that you kill his "rapist and murdering" associates, and spare ONLY HIM to see that Liz AND Amber are taken care of for their JOINT swimming career, and Lucy is tied into it by getting a raise, and Erik is to only interact with the twins through her. As far as I'm concerned for a harem evil route, this is the best option. As you open up (potential) future scenes with the 3 of them perhaps when we get out of H.E.R.O.
Like I mentioned, should you kill Erik, not only does Liz lose her sponsorship to go "do something else" (probably leading to Amber not wanting to do swimming either), but it also seems that you completely fuck over Lucy and her dying daughter. Not a very good harem Master are you...?
Edit: I would've loved if Liz and Amber found a new sponsor instead, and Lucy was covered by the Mafia, but it doesn't seem like that is the case.
Perhaps "Evil" is too subjective, I'm not a ridiculously unnecessary douche bag, and I don't think the game allows for that kind of narrative anyway (to some extent). I suppose I'm kind of like a less compassionate Eren Jaeger. I have little to no regard for those outside of my immediate circle who get in my way. But I cherish those close (that don't fuck me over; Deryl and Jake). I like Michael, I like the bar fight with Daryl, I even like the little kid at H.E.R.O, and Clark kinda (he stole from me, I'll return the favor if needed). But of course, I also like tits and ass, so females will be added to the harem one way or another (fuckin tsunderes). I was nice to Jake in the beginning, then he turned into a dog that had to be put down. I liked Deryl, but then he had to be childish in a life or death scenario. It's the little things that tick me off, the farmer caught me, I don't know him, he's dead, none will be the wiser. The world is cruel as Ella puts it, and that applies to real life, given a chance to have powers like this; I probably would only care about those close, and screw everyone else around me, but this is a porn game, and there is sex, and with sex comes a harem that must be satisfied.
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Oh yeah, i know the MC was vastly weaker than her, but the fact remains that the MC was on his very early stages of his first evolution and Ella was probably at her third or fourth evolution by that point and the MC was still able to surprise her and restrain her healing factor even if for a bit.
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Now that you mention the Ella dead ends again, this update was weird when it came to the MC's powers being revealed. He just casually told Xanthe everything about his memory and "perfect" shapeshifting power and nothing happened. It makes it seem like Ella's reaction early on seem a bit too brutal. While Xanthe thought his abilities were impressive, he wasn't shocked or gave off heavy desire for it, at least on the surface.
It's safe to say the 3rd and/or 4th already know about the MC's secrets after he evolved to lvl 2. That still brings up why Ella tried to get you ate by the 4th the 1st time and then outright killed you the 2nd time. Ella most definitely knows about both of our abilities by now but she hasn't tried to kill us since we reached lvl 2.
Maybe it was like I guessed and it was only useful to kill him prior to his evolution. Once he reached lvl 2, it seemed like they were willing to accept him as their greater spawn since he actually proved his worth and "developed" nicely.
I'll have to continue paying attention to this as the game progress. If it's still relevant, of course.
It's safe to say the 3rd and/or 4th already know about the MC's secrets after he evolved to lvl 2. That still brings up why Ella tried to get you ate by the 4th the 1st time and then outright killed you the 2nd time. Ella most definitely knows about both of our abilities by now but she hasn't tried to kill us since we reached lvl 2.
Maybe it was like I guessed and it was only useful to kill him prior to his evolution. Once he reached lvl 2, it seemed like they were willing to accept him as their greater spawn since he actually proved his worth and "developed" nicely.
I'll have to continue paying attention to this as the game progress. If it's still relevant, of course.
Well it's possible that since Xanthe isn't a superhuman himself he isn't aware of the greater significance of compatibility and subsequent powers. He himself said they are not as good at finding out who would be a good fit but on the other hand Ella can naturally see it. Since ella's goal isnt revealed it could just be that between ella and Xanthe they both took different things from the MC's powers revelation. The 3rd (and maybe 4th) seems to directly communicate with her.
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I like that direction Drako, but I think it's like I said, it's a dominance thing. She's prepping us for the 3rd and 4th's bidding, and if we progress too fast or too slow; we die. The Ella Fight is too fast, because we supriser her, she leads us to our death. The jellyfish attack is too soon as she quite literally states, "You're progressing too fast", and of course there are the dead ends of which you DON'T heed her advice in training and die. But notice everytime you get stronger, it's by HER hand.
Metal bending
Kenny
Klaus Evolution (she urges you to evolve soon beforehand, and tells you later on that she let you handle him)
Tips on power and constantly edging your to get stronger
A side note, Ella evolved to lvl 5, and she realized that the 3rd and 4th had not selected her to do their bidding. So she states that it'll probably have to be you (indirectly but it's pretty clear). We know that the Numbered usually like to choose lvl 5s to do their biddings moreso, as they are closer to their monster ancestor at that level. So I thing the reason why Ella led us so early on to the 4th; was to see if our ridiculous growth and potential was what they were looking for...it was not. Which is why she looked scared and sort of shocked when we were killed by it.
I have another theory, I think the reason Ella wasn't chosen (other than the fact that we are the MC) is because she took a shortcut to get to lvl 5, which is also why her leading us to the 4th (like a shortcut) got us killed. It's insulting, the monsters have only ever really been about their nature, instinct, and giving into what they are. So taking a human made shortcut would be like spitting on God given powers with technology, while ignoring all the experience to go with it.
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Doesn't Xanthe kinda behaves like a sociopath? I have the distinct notion that he indeed is since he talks about Sups without any tone of fear in his texts, i feel like thats why he doesn't really gives a crap about anybodys powers besides their use for his research and experiments...
As for Ella i feel like she wants the MC to learn to think and evolve by himself so some extent, so i personally think that's the reason why she decides to feed him to her daddy when he challenges her, because he is too immature for challenging her knowing he couldn't win, and when she kills him because he reveals his new power to her, because he is still too naive, so i do believe she wants to groon him so that he can fend for himself while she's not around and that's why on the last training session she kinda says something that felt like a final goodbye, because at that moment he was ready to train on his own.
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About your side note, it was actually the secret monster that killed the protagonist, not the 4th, the secret monster even kills the 4th first before moving to the protagonist.
And regarding your last point, i personally believe that the reason why she thinks the MC is the one is because the 3th or 4th comunicates with frequency with the MC and they probably stopped doing it with her, hence why the same that transformed her goes after the MC, because she is the equivalent of a failed Chosen one of sorts for the numbered... but thats just an assumption of mine.
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It's very possible, I'm sorry I don't have all of my facts in order, but one thing I'm positive of is that Ella has a path laid out, if it's true that the Numbered stopped communicating with her, it begs the question; what path is she on now?
It still seems pretty linear to me, not much has changed in the way she operates despite not being chosen. Which begs the question, if my theory holds true about the shortcut to lvl 5; then does that mean almost all the lvl 5 H.E.R.O operatives are in the same boat?
Perhaps a large majority of them have never even been spoken to, let alone Chosen upon lvl 5 BECAUSE they skipped a "natural" evolution.
Which begs another question, what are the monster's goals? We know that they are preparing to invade Earth to some extent, but monsters have also shown to be predatorial; individual. For 2 of the highest Numbered to be teaming up I find VERY strange. Monsters are not known for their Heroism, and while we know they sometimes deliver their genes involuntarily; there's a good chance that the H.E.R.O 5s aren't doing their God's work, nor were we "mistakenly" picked by 2 of the Numbered at the same time.
I'll do a deep dive tonight, but I feel like the answer is right on the tip of my tongue... potentially...
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I feel like the MC is the supposed chosen because both the 3th and 4th seen to comunicate and apparently are with him to some level seeing as they both appear to kill the first when the MC eats Jake, so they kinda see the MC as a son to some extent seeing as they are a father and mother figure of sorts, hence why his powers are similar to Ellas that was chosen by the 3th even when he picks the 4th, he somehow inherited both powers and thats why they both seen to follow and comunicate with him...
That is part of my theory is at the moment.
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Mm I'm not buying it. You're telling me that these HIGHLY independent and hostile monsters, who are known to fight for territory or less; just so happened to be next to each other in the same park AND be amongst the top Numbered, all while joining up to pick the same host at the same time? No. I don't buy it as just a friendly miss gene injection.
They have a plan, like you mentioned they teamed up against the 1st, they are definitely associated with each other, and that in itself makes them arguably the most suspicious and most dangerous characters in the entire game.
As much as I love mister way of the wind H.E.R.O avatar, and Deus the foresight drug dealer, I can't help but be on my guard against the intentions of our Numbered.
The 2nd just seems to be doing their own thing, the 1st potentially the same. But 3 and 4 are not only working together which is downright unheard of for intelligent monsters, but are constantly pushing us forward towards corruptional choices and to further our powers. Much like Ella, which leads me to believe they left her like someone mentioned, but she still seems dead set on following out whatever task she was given.
That all being said; we still don't know what the fuck the monsters truly want other than preparing us for their arrival, and that most of the Numbered aree dead (I'd assume thanks to injured Zack and the other elite H.E.R.O agents), potentially also that unknown monster (I went back to check, if it's not the 1st, what is it?)
No. When you speak to Lucy, the flag is potentially set. It's used where i said it's used:
Python:
if helplucy == True:
jump erikhelplucy
#...
label erikhelplucy:
You "Oh and speaking of, you're going to give your secretary a generous raise and pay for all her daughter's medical expenses."
Erik "H-How do you know about-"
You "I know a lot of things Erik. And I'll know if you try to fuck me. So keep that in mind."
Erik "G-Got it!"On the romance storyline Liz goes to Erik to quit her sponsorship out of her own volition. She elaborates on it in the epilogue:
Python:
Liz "Oh? That? I quit, or resigned, or whatever you want to call it. It's not worth the hassle."
LAmum "WHAT?! You quit your sponsorship!!!? WHY!? After all the effort I put in to set up that interview, and after you passed it!? Why would you give that up!!?"
Liz "It's boring. I thought I would just be training and racing, but all the sponsor bullshit was taking up my time. So, I cut 'em loose. "If you think having her keep the scholarship is a good idea, just consider her mom thinks it's a good idea. The woman who is wrong about pretty much everything.
As for Lucy, you seem to operate with cartoon presumption Erik is some sort of Load Bearing CEO and when he dies, his company is dissolved, and all employees lose their jobs. When in reality things don't really work like that and Lucy is very likely still a secretary to the next boss. Maybe she even doesn't have to suck his dick for a change.
Also, what makes you think i have any interest in playing some harem master nonsense? Not to mention i fail to see why this should make me feel very guilty about not taking special care of a woman who was ready to throw MC's close friend (and who knows how many girls before her) under the rapist-slash-murderer bus.
I'd imagine the perfect shapeshifting is what Ella was specifically after, and that's why she's grooming the MC, in hope he develops it (because she doesn't know he already has it). Apparently to then take it from his corpse for herself or smth.
Xanthe meantime has only scientific interest in monster powers. He also has other ways to obtain and use them, that don't require murdering their carriers.
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Okay okay, calm your tits, the world isn't black and white and nobody's perfect.
I was wrong about the flag reference, the point I was trying to get across though is that it only matters if you spare Erik, and that it doesn't take effect if you kill him, my mistake.
I'm assuming for the Liz quitting dialogue, that only takes place if you kill Erik, which is why I didn't. If you do happen to spare Erik, he does exactly what you tell him to.
You: Dedicate your life to charity and being a good person and I'll spare you.
Erik: I will, I swear!
You: Go back on your word, and I'll flay you alive, heal the skin and do it again until you go insane.
Erik: I-I won't go back on it, I promise.
You: And to prove to me how good you've become. You're going to sponsor both Liz and her sister, for their swimming careers, everything.
You: But you are under no circumstances to contact them directly. Do everything through that secretary of yours.
Erik: Y-Yes, of course!!
Should you decide to say to the secretary you'll be taken care of, the following lines are added on;
You: Oh and speaking of, you're going to give your secretary a generous raise and pay for all her daughter's medical expenses.
The epilogue with Liz's Mother clarifies this point;
LAMom: *sigh* Anyway, Liz how is college life going? How's your sponsorship? Mr Long is a very reputable man.
Liz: Good, I guess. Amber will be getting the same sponsorship I have pretty soon. The fatso is planning to recruit her before the end of the new term.
This is a better outcome for the twins no matter what you want to tell yourself, while LAMom IS a fucking cunt, Liz isn't doing it for her, in fact she even says that later on she will not pursue the career. But in the mean time, it means at the very least Amber is in the same sponsor with her sister (like she wanted) and Liz, while she is lazy, will still follow her sister to do anything she wants to do. If they get a free ride together, how is that worse off? In fact, if you do kill Erik, Liz'll quit, and any natural talent Amber has will be thrown away because she never joined up in the first place. You're kind of destroying any potential future that could have been for them. They can quit whenever they want, but the fact that Liz stays in to be with her sister for something they can fall back on for a while is good, regardless if the lobotomized zombie that is Liz says she'd rather do otherwise.
As for Lucy, YOU seem to be operating in the delusional fantasy land of privilege. Cancer treatment is not cheap, I know that from personal experience, and Lucy herself quite literally states that she needs this job;
You: Think carefully Lucy, do you really want to die for scum like him?
Lucy: Please, I...
Lucy: I need that job, I-I can't afford to lose it.
You: You'll find another job I'm sure. You seem quite capable.
Lucy: No! You don't understand. A job that pays as well as that, it doesn't exist. Not for a secretary. I need that job, I can't lose it.
And she's right, it's not cheap. Given what she's earning as a secretary, and other dialogue I'm not going to meticulously bible quote; I think it's safe to say Erik is giving his last name to her (pun intended) in exchange for her daughter's treatment. While I am well aware Erik is not the ONLY "load boss" running the company, the next boss isn't just going to willy nilly pay for cancer treatment for secretary work, the world doesn't "work that way."
To your last point I'll be honest I don't remember or seem to give a flying fuck why I mentioned my harem master route. But while Lucy is certainly not doing a good thing leading girls to a rapist; she certainly isn't doing the wrong thing. It's her daughter's life on the line, I'm going to assume you're not a poverty parent, because if you were, you'd probably do the same thing in her shoes. Or you can save your moral compass at the exchange for your daughter's life. But I guess it's subjective.
The way I see it, no option in this game is the "right" one, that's the fucking point. To kill or not to kill Bailey, to kill or not to kill Danica, Jake, hell even Oscar. Just depends, not so black and white, but there are blatantly better options, and blatantly dumber ones.
Edit: I think I know the reason I responded about the Harem stick, you talked to me, so I was just giving you more of an insight as to how I roll so you could help me not insult me. I hope I wasn't too harsh in this.
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