vogelbeest

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Plus Deus likely inherited both traits as he opened a hole in space and went back in time.
Hmm... Actually Ella's goal seems to be creating (a) superhuman(s) with all 6 original powers... The reason why Jake and Ella failed is they did not get the power from both twins... If Deus has mastered an original power he will be high on Ella's list...
Collecting hearts and capturing twins to summon the Apostles permanently seems just another way to try and get the 6 powers of the Origins...


That said, we did learn that the 9th and 10th descendants follow the Lord of Dark/the 7th.
Then, there is the Lord of Dark. God Slayer. Apostle Devourer. It is often those originating from the ninth, the tenth and especially the seventh, that worship it, though thankfully I'm not so foolish."

(Aglaegwif also tells she's a spawn of either the 9th, the 10th or the 7th here.. Well, elsewhere in her text she implies being a spawn of one of the Apostles, here she just narrows it down...)
 

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The Origin possibly being one of them for the 3rd and 4th.
Seems to me the 6 Arbiters could be the same as 6 Origins.... It's more or less confirmed an Origin has 2 twin Apostles.

Female "Perhaps Order, would be the greatest power of all, taking the energy required to make full use of it out of the equation."
You "Order? What is that?"
Female "The power to command all things. To structure all things. To write the laws that govern the universe and to have both the Power and the Authority to enforce them."
Female "I've never personally met a being, human or monster that has acquired it since the origin, although..."
Female "I did, not long ago, hear talk of a potential inheritor, one your Ella had high hopes for. Though it seems to have ended in a failure. A weak mind can ruin even the greatest potential."
 

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Lucius, Alexis and Deryl's power imply a Numbered who has power over creation.
Deryl's progenitor is the Rebis who happens to be an apostle but an artificially created one through some kind of bio alchemy I'm guessing, so it seems as if it's one without a twin pair and could be outside the 12. Just speculation on where it fits in so far.
Very interested to see future updates if Lucius/Alexis happen to be spawns of monsters descended from the Rebis or what.
 
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Since Syther did one I might as well give my far better senseful take on all the women and if/how I would personally approach them:


Amber:
I love her, especially more so later on when the relationship actually kicks off. She's just got a take no nonsense attitude but sweet and vulnerable later on because she trusts you. El waifu materiel!
-Looks wise my type, kills the goth look in a different way and her colors are better than her sister's. Her figure is also slightly different and she's incredibly thicc in that lower half. Beautiful smile.


Liz:
I know I say I hate her a lot and that will remain the same for my personal opinion of her. But I WILL say that I truly admire her care for Amber when the situation gets crazy enough (as a sibling myself) and her cute side of genuine love at the end of her arc. But at the end of the day I would've never had the patience of going through the questionable hoola hoops that is her arc, the pay off isn't THAT worth it.
-Looks wise not my type, I can see her nasty personality on her physically.


Emily:
This might be a nonsense take but you guys aren't innocent for not liking Alice, I don't really care for Emily. I'm trying to take looks out of the picture as much as possible otherwise I'd fuck them all. But Emily to me is just, "decent" "neutral" "plain". I don't know what else to tell y'all, I just don't vibe with her personality.
-Looks wise my type for SURE, I kill for ass and while she may not be toned I could care less, fat ass is fat ass. In addition the goth look is chef's kiss on her and she has a natural beauty in my opinion.


Shadow:
I'm all for her, she's a tsundere, those types are my weakness. I'd fuck that dog in a heart beat and she's got a protective nature even going so far as to understand Emily's Dad is trouble.
-Looks wise DEFINITELY my type, wolf gang PLUS black coat? I'm in.


Christine:
Easily my type of woman. Sure she shakes her ass for cash but that's just your average Mother with an OnlyFans or daughter on TikTok, what's new? At least in this case she has the balls to stick to one person and only fuck us, going so far as to be clingy enough to call us a boyfriend despite her very OPEN personality. I like her sexual joke-ish nature, shit I'm like that in real life so me and her would be the ultimate dream team of dirty filth. Going back on topic she's also very loyal, spending her time to genuinely care about Ella her friend going missing and looking for her. She's also one of the few people to be suspicious right away about very OBVIOUS flags of being a Superhuman or at the very least up to something. Smart cookies are an attractive trait on someone you wouldn't expect it from.
-Looks wise 50/50, I'm a fan of her proportions but facially nothing to write home about (personally).


Ella:
Oh boy you know I'm a simp for this bitch. Ella is a bit of a paradox, if she ever did what she did to Deryl to me irl, I'd silence her through death in a heartbeat, but ignoring her misdeeds when she wants to be nice, she is a very captivating individual. Her presences can even be considered soothing in a way, and strikes me as a fun but not too fun gal. I'm weird so to me she's definitely my kind of girl, unfortunate she's not a yandere, I'd kill for one of those unironically.
-Looks wise she is a 50/50 Emily type. I mean I love her goth look and her proportions are spectacular sometimes, but they aren't at the tippity top of my list compared to some here.


Jess:
I like her too, she seems like a very troubled dove. I'm a sucker for fixing people (within reason i.e Emily and Liz), and as an added bonus I like Jess's personality; TUSUNDERE!!! Working towards shy hard to get types are always worth while, as they usually become one of the most genuine people you'll ever meet. I respect her taking herself out of the abusive relationship, and I LOVE that she's a fangirl for our alter ego.
-Looks wise my type, love that red hair and slim figure.


Tess:
Personality wise I like her, not love her like I do Christine. I would also never date her as I'm just not a fan of her lifestyle. I'm not a party guy or into the whole sporty grind for the Olympics, though I do respect it. I know it sounds like I SHOULD like her due to what I was saying about Christine, but I'm also very loyal to an individual relationship with sprinkled threesomes with people close to us or open about our sexual preferences or lifestyles to people who would normally say you should keep it to yourself. While her blog literally SOUNDS like something I would do, I don't know how to explain it I just see her as fling material if that, more than I would consider an actual relationship.
-Looks wise not my type.


Alice:
I'll die on this hill, she is literally a checkbook for everything I LOVE about a woman. She has a tad tsundere side to herself when you get to know her she is SO cute. I love her lack of care for human life, which I know sounds dark but I'm referring to those that deserve it; those opposing Mafia members were not saints and I respect her being honest about who she is and doing anything necessary for the people she cares about. Gives off STRONG protective mother vibes which makes her waifu material. She's also reliable, and would most certainly have your back if you chose to burn the world down. I like her hard to get nature as well, corrupting her into being a lovable romantic would be fun. She's also honest with what she wants or likes, and doesn't hide if she doesn't want to do something or doesn't like it.
-Looks wise she checks EVERYTHING except for her tits which is weird I know. Her face outstanding, hair unique, natural diamond. And she's got a great ass which I am ALL for (only sexual feature I care about), and if I HAPPEN to change my mind about tits, they are there.


Michael:
I'd go gay for Michael in a heartbeat, I won't elaborate further.
-Looks wise not my type, but I do admire his teddy bear cuddle bod.


Tiffany:
Another person I despise almost everything about. I hate her backstabbing nature, I'm a BIG loyalty buff. I've personally had experience with my best friend since I was 6 betraying me by stealing from my little brother and lying to my face about it before moving away and cutting contact with me altogether. I also happen to be a big FAMILY guy, her trying to kill her Dad and marry off her sister like it's yesterday's garage I absolutely DESPISE. She has beef with Alice so that's yet another thing I hate about her. She also shares Liz's unawareness of what the fuck she is doing morally, so again she just sucks. Lack of personality, blackmails us, need I go on? A fucking terrible excuse of a human being.
-Looks wise I actually like her, blondes are a huge weakness and PALE SKIN?! She looks like an ice princess I am ALL for it, just wish I knew if she had a nice ass...


Claudia:
This one is odd because we have limited interaction with her. With time I think I COULD grow to love her, but right off the bat she's just too naive for me. I'm not a fan of the wholesome blissful personality stick, I find it tedious and exhausting to deal with. She's not a bad person to be around, but dating her or trying to connect with her just wouldn't work out, because I have a very realistic and negative understanding and outlook on life. The sentiment of, "life can always get better* or "look at the bright side" I just find as ludicrous, and having to live with that? I'll pass. Though I will say I do love her shy nature, she's very cute in a mature way.
-Looks wise much like her sister I'd have fun with. Blue hair and princess look with that skin, dayum! I haven't really seen her naked though so I wouldn't know if I would tackle any of her assets, again something that could be fixed with more time together.


Mia:
She's a child to me. I'd see her more as a little sister than I would a romantic interest, I'll pass.
-Looks wise she's adorable, but not my cup of tea in any regard really. Very pretty petite face and figure, which I am all for. But it's not petite and thicc SOOOO I don't really care, next!


Demi:
She's an odd one. Not in the way of how I'd like her personality, but more in the way of I have one thing I absolutely DESPISE about her. So as far as personality goes she is JUST my type. Having that open sexual nature also gets me in all the fun embarrassing moments we'd put ourselves in. Her little gremlin energy is also an adorable trait I like, anti government is an added bonus to that. She's just a fun time all round, I'd most certainly be interested in her, she's also the biggest fan of our alter ego. My ONLY problem with her is her morality. She just HATES killing and even hurting people, so much that she still likes Clover despite the emotional and physical abuse she received from her.
-Looks wise she checks almost ALL my boxes. Petite frame, white hair is different but VERY welcome. thicc fucking cheeks, the works! So good looking when she's slobbering on your dick hooo she's like a living fleshlight!


Clover:
Eh she's not my type, if anything I dislike her heavily. Bullying, really? The human race will never cease to amaze me. There was a period in my life where I grew up in a physically abusive and scary environment, Mom having cancer was an added emotional "bonus" with her also being under the abuse radar. I didn't turn into a huge fucking asshole and I don't see those reasons or anything like them to be an excuse for turning into a huge piece of shit to those around you. If anything it should make you more mature as it did for myself (I like to think) as it should reinforce being bad makes you just as dislike or turnable into that abusive figure in your own life. Bullying is a big no no trait for me so fuck her. I'm aware she was under the Demi influence as far as the majority of her arc, but I'm talking about the past. Disregarding all that again I'm not a sporty guy or a morally "justice for the sake justice!" character.
-Looks wise she's also a no go, I just don't care. If I could like one thing it would be her pretty green eyes, that's it, moving on...

Lola:
I don't like her. Strikes me as someone who sleeps around a lot which I know, sounds like me but I just have an astronomical libido and say stupid shit. I get manipulative for her own sake vibes and the fact that she brags to Amber if you sleep with her just rubs me as toxicity. Pass as a relationship, pass as a friend.
-Looks wise she looks like a downgraded Harley Quinn, bad Harley Quinn. Pigtails? Pass (unless it's for sex handles), face? Pass. Figure? Hard pass.

Kelsy:
Abusive cop? I don't need this game, I'm mixed I can just go outside! In all honesty I'm well aware of there being good cops and even know a few personally around where I live that I openly talk to. Kelsy doesn't strike me as bad, I respect her mentality of abusing the worst of the worst, they deserve no less much less the food we feed them. Bit of a dark take sure but suck my dick I don't care. Back on topic she's not my cup of tea, that being said I don't REALLY know that much about her so again, still a pass.
-Looks wise also not doing it for me. Red head gets me hot and bothered but other than that, nah.


Nikki:
I mean she's got that trickster sex stick to her, but she'd probably be more of a fling or a friend to me. Don't know much about her so I can't speak to her character, but I don't DISLIKE her? I would need more to go off of.
-Looks wise she's crazy. I happen to also be a fan of mixed girls and she definitely strikes that box. THICC ASS for the win, dark hair to boot!


Lucy:
I hate her yet respect her kinda. So she's an obvious no go, but I like her determination to save her child by any means necessary. Maybe it's because I had to take care of my Mom when she was near death's door similarly due to cancer, but I too would have done some nefarious shit if it meant saving her life.
But I also DESPISE WITH A GOD DAMN PASSION rape, and wouldn't even subject nice undeserving people to it to save my Mom so there is that...
-Looks wise I do like me some blondes but everything else? Nah, I'm good.


Liz& Amber's Mom:
Burn in the 7 hells
-Looks wise burn in hell.


Brianna:
Better cop, better copulation; Brianna is a perfected beaut! I like her shy nature and truly admire her strive for true justice. While I haven't seen her just mindlessly obey the law despite being in a position where she should hear someone out; I would HOPE that based on her personality she would be loyal enough to consider going against her nature for you. Easy waifu material right there, though her moral high ground is kind of annoying to my dark nature.
-Looks wise purple long hair really? Obvious go for! Her look is so unique and vibrant I love almost everything about her. Proportions aren't half bad either.


Angelina:
She is a 50/50 much like Emily. I enjoy her personality, she's very down to earth. But she's not PERSONALLY my cup of tea. She'd be a great friend, and she has an attractive aura of shyness to her, it's cute. She's also one of the few people to ask how you are despite not really being one of the "main bitches" in the game.
-Looks wise red head!!!!! BUT I don't care for the tits. I think she's got a cute face overall I'd sleep with her why not?


Laurie:
Oh such a sweetheart, I love her. So naive of the world and yet so brave when she requires it. I love her growth, her nerdy nature and her strong emotional bond to those around her. It's a very welcoming persona that I just adore. Her morality could use some work, being a little too much on the lighter side but that's part of her charm, EASY waifu.
-Looks wise I am perplexed by her hair, in a good way. I love her face and eyes, and her figure is just a natural good fit. She would be damn near perfect.

Bailey:
Hmm...pass. Boring, but I will say I like her breeding stick, one of my core kinks.
-Looks wise she also isn't my thing, swamp people just don't cut it. Even if I look at proportions she's not really my cup of tea, pass all round.


Danica:
She's a pass. Not a fan of her FUCKING WHINY attitude. Always got a frown like a stick is up her ass ugh the fucking worst. Loud and obnoxious are also very unattractive.
-Looks wise she's a pass as well. I respect the semi goth look I guess, but it's still not enough for me to want to sleep with her. No ass at all.


Zara:
She seemed nice from what I saw of her. Definitely like the aspect of wanting to be free to do whatever and wanting us to join them at S.I.N.
-Looks wise she is a looker, and I'm all for it. Proportions aside (cause I haven't seen enough), her color palette and structure is quite gorgeous, and those yellow eyes are soul crushing.


Alexis:
Eh I don't like her at all. Nothing personal she's just a little too whinny but if that's your thing go for it. Complains about everything has no real personality other than being a nasty fuck and that's about it.
-Looks wise she is incredibly beautiful. Red head (my weakness!), killer eyes, piercings to boot, and that pale skin. Those curves are mesmerizing, she could definitely pass for a fling if I had a muzzle.


Nicolette:
Ugh I DESPISE her SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO god damn much, more than I do anyone in this game, that's it, end of story.
-Looks wise I wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole, fucking cunt.


Nyx:
We don't really know much about her, from what I do know I'd "like" her for now; nothing romantic. I respect her view on death and furthering your power through corruption, so that's a plus?
-Looks wise god she is a GEM. Her proportions are lackluster but I DO like her face and goth aesthetic. Green eyes for the win!


Lisa:
Um so while I don't really know anything about her she strikes me as a bubbly flirtatious type so my tea for a fling and maybe a relationship, but not for waifu material. More importantly onto her looks...
-Looks wise 10 OUT OF MOTHER FUCKING 10, dear god I've never been so bloody down bad for a level of THICCITYNESS in my entire life! Pale skin, cybernetics, dirty blonde, yellow eyes thicc thighs!!!! ASSSSS!!!! Gawwwwwwwwwww EASY smash, more so than anyone on this list.



That's my take, lemme know your thoughts, or don't up to you.

Edit: Sorry for my Lisa rant...
 
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Aglaecwif might derive from Body rather than Dark. When she meets the MC, she mentions "our Lord travels far and wide", which would make sense if she assumes the MC to be a spawn of the Body given that he's a shapeshifter (especially since she talks about spawns of Twin Apostles - which the MC is - like he isn't one).

Her ability to create monsters would also fall in line with the Body, only that her power focuses outward rather than inward.

Given what we've seen so far, I think Malik is just a spawn of Power given that the Second entails energy manipulation.
 
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Since Syther did one I might as well give my far better senseful take on all the women and if/how I would personally approach them:


Amber:
I love her, especially more so later on when the relationship actually kicks off. She's just got a take no nonsense attitude but sweet and vulnerable later on because she trusts you.
-Looks wise my type, kills the goth look in a different way and her colors are better than her sister's. Her figure is also slightly different and she's incredibly thicc in that lower half. Beautiful smile.


Liz:
I know I say I hate her a lot and that will remain the same for my personal opinion of her. But I WILL say that I truly admire her care for Amber when the situation gets crazy enough (as a sibling myself) and her cute side of genuine love at the end of her arc. But at the end of the day I would've never had the patience of going through the questionable hoola hoops that is her arc, the pay off isn't THAT worth it.
-Looks wise not my type, I can see her nasty personality on her physically.


Emily:
This might be a nonsense take but you guys aren't innocent for not liking Alice, I don't really care for Emily. I'm trying to take looks out of the picture as much as possible otherwise I'd fuck them all. But Emily to me is just, "decent" "neutral" "plain". I don't know what else to tell y'all, I just don't vibe with her personality.
-Looks wise my type for SURE, I kill for ass and while she may not be toned I could care less, fat ass is fat ass. In addition the goth look is chef's kiss on her and she has a natural beauty in my opinion.


Shadow:
I'm all for her, she's a tsundere, those types are my weakness. I'd fuck that dog in a heart beat and she's got a protective nature even going so far as to understand her Dad is trouble.
-Looks wise DEFINITELY my type, wolf gang PLUS black coat? I'm in.


Christine:
Easily my type of woman. Sure she shakes her ass for cash but that's just your average Mother with an OnlyFans or daughter on TikTok, what's new? At least in this case she has the balls to stick to one person and only fuck us, going so far as to be clingy enough to call us a boyfriend despite her very OPEN personality. I like her sexual joke-ish nature, shit I'm like that in real life so me and her would be the ultimate dream team of dirty filth. Going back on topic she's also very loyal, spending her time to genuinely care about Ella her friend going missing and looking for her. She's also one of the few people to be suspicious right away about very OBVIOUS flags of being a Superhuman or at the very least up to something. Smart cookies are an attractive trait on someone you wouldn't expect it from.
-Looks wise 50/50, I'm a fan of her proportions but facially nothing to write home about (personally).

Ella:
Oh boy you know I'm a simp for this bitch. Ella is a bit of a paradox, if she ever did what she did to Deryl to me irl, I'd silence her through death in a heartbeat, but ignoring her misdeeds when she wants to be nice, she is a very captivating individual. Her presences can even be considered soothing in a way, and strikes me as a fun but not too fun gal. I'm weird so to me she's definitely my kind of girl, unfortunate she's not a yandere, I'd kill for one of those unironically.
-Looks wise she is a 50/50 Emily type. I mean I love her goth look and her proportions are spectacular sometimes, but they aren't at the tippity top of my list compared to some here.

Jess:
I like her too, she seems like a very troubled dove. I'm a sucker for fixing people (within reason i.e Emily and Liz), and as an added bonus I like Jess's personality; TUSUNDERE!!! Working towards shy hard to get types are always worth while, as they usually become one of the most genuine people you'll ever meet. I respect her taking herself out of the abusive relationship, and I LOVE that she's a fangirl for our alter ego.
-Looks wise my type, love that red hair and slim figure.


Tess:
Personality wise I like her, not love her like I do Christine. I would also never date her as I'm just not a fan of her lifestyle. I'm not a party guy or into the whole sporty grind for the Olympics, though I do respect it. I know it sounds like I SHOULD like her due to what I was saying about Christine, but I'm also very loyal to an individual relationship with sprinkled threesomes with people close to us or open about our sexual preferences or lifestyles to people who would normally say you should keep it to yourself. While her blog literally SOUNDS like something I would do, I don't know how to explain it I just see her as fling material if that, more than I would consider an actual relationship.
-Looks wise not my type.


Alice:
I'll die on this hill, she is literally a checkbook for everything I LOVE about a woman. She has a tad tsundere side to herself when you get to know her she is SO cute. I love her lack of care for human life, which I know sounds dark but I'm referring to those that deserve it; this opposing Mafia members were not saints and I respect her being honest about who she is and doing anything necessary for the people she cares about. Gives off STRONG protective mother vibes which makes her waifu material. She's also reliable, and would most certainly have you back if you chose to burn the world down. I like her hard to get nature as well, corrupting her into being a lovable romantic would be fun. She's also honest with what she wants or likes, and doesn't hide if she doesn't want to do something or doesn't like it.
-Looks wise she checks EVERYTHING except for her tits which is weird I know. Her face outstanding, hair unique, natural diamond. And she's got a great ass which I am ALL for (only sexual feature I care about), and if I HAPPEN to change emy mind about tits, they are there.


Michael:
I'd go gay for Michael in a heartbeat, I won't elaborate further.
-Looks wise not my type, but I do admire his teddy bear cuddle bod.


Tiffany:
Another person I despise almost everything about. I hate her backstabbing nature, I'm a BIG loyalty buff. I've personally had experience in my best friend since I was 6 betraying me by stealing from my little brother and lying to my face about it before moving away and cutting contact with me altogether. I also happen to be a big FAMILY guy, her trying to kill her Dad and marry off her sister like it's yesterday's garage I absolutely DESPISE. She has beef with Alice so that's yet another thing I ate about her. She also shares Liz's unawareness of what the fuck she is doing morally, so again she just sucks. Lack of personality, blackmails us, need I go on? A fucking terrible excuse of a human being.
-Looks wise I actually like her, blondes are a huge weakness and PALE SKIN?! She looks like an ice princess I am ALL for it, just wish I knew if she had a nice ass...


Claudia:
This one is odd because we have limited interaction with her. With time I think I COULD grow to love her, but right off the bat she's just too naive for me. I'm not a fan of the wholesome blissful personality stick, I find it tedious and exhausting to deal with. She's not a bad person to be around, but dating her or trying to connect with her just wouldn't work out, because I have a very realistic and negative understanding and outlook on life. The sentiment of, "life can always get better* or "look at the bright side" I just find as ludicrous, and having to live with that? I'll pass. Though I will say I do love her shy nature, she's very cute in a mature way.
-Looks wise much like her sister I'd have fun with. Blue hair and princess look with that skin, dayum! I haven't really seen her naked though so I wouldn't know if I would tackle any of her assets, again something that could be fixed with more time together.


Mia:
She's a child to me. I'd see her more as a little sister than I would a romantic interest, I'll pass.
-Looks wise she's adorable, but not my cup of tea in any regard really. Very pretty petite face and figure, which I am all for. But it's not petite and thicc SOOOO I don't really care, next!


Demi:
She's an odd one. Not in the way of how I'd like her personality, but more in the way of I have one thing I absolutely DESPISE about her. So as far as personality goes she is JUST my type. Having that open sexual nature also gets me in all the fun embarrassing moments we'd put ourselves in. Her load gremlin energy is also an adorable trait I like, anti government is an added bonus to that. She's just a fun time all round, I'd most certainly be interested in her, she's also the biggest fan of our alter ego. My ONLY problem with her is her morality. She just HATES killing and even hurting people, so much that she still likes Clover despite the emotional and physical abuse she received from her.
-Looks wise she checks almost ALL my boxes. Petite frame, white hair is different but VERY welcome. thicc fucking cheeks, the works! So good looking when she's slobbering on you dick hooo she's like a living fleshlight!


Clover:
Eh she's not my type, if anything I dislike her heavily. Bullying, really? The human race will never cease to amaze me. There was a period in my life where I grew up in a physically abusive and scary environment, Mom having cancer was an added emotional "bonus" with her also being under the abuse radar. I didn't turn into a huge fucking asshole and I don't see those reasons or anything like them to be an excuse for turning into a huge piece of shit to those around you. If anything it should make you more mature as it did for myself (I like to think) as it should reinforce being bad makes you just as dislike or turnable into that abusive figure in your own life. Bullying is a big no no trait for me so fuck her. I'm aware she was under the Demi influence as far as the majority of her arc, but I'm talking about the past. Disregarding all that again I'm not a sporty guy or a morally "justice for the sake justice!" character.
-Looks wise she's also a no go, I just don't care. If I could like one thing it would be her pretty green eyes, that's it, moving on...

Kelsy:
Abusive cop? I don't need this game, I'm mixed I can just go outside! In all honesty I'm well aware of there being good cops and even know a few personally around where I live that I openly talk to. Kelsy doesn't strike me as bad, I respect her mentality of abusing the worst of the worst, they deserve no less much less the food we feed them. But of a dark take sure but suck my dick I don't care. Back on topic she's not my cup of tea, that being said I don't REALLY know that much about her so again, still a pass.
-Looks wise also not doing it for me. Red head gets me hot and bothered but other than that, nah.

Nikki:
I mean she's got that trickster sex stick to her, but she'd probably be more of a fling or a friend to me. Don't know much about her so I can't speak to her character, but I don't DISLIKE her? I would need more to go of of.
-Looks wise she's crazy. I happen to also be a fan of mixed girls and she definitely strikes that box. THICC ASS for the win, dark hair to boot!

Lucy:
I hate her yet respect her kinda. So she's an obvious no go, but I like her determination to save her child by any means necessary. Maybe it's because I had to take care of my Mom when she was near death's door similarly due to cancer, but I too would have done some nefarious shit if it meant saving her life.
But I also DESPISE WITH A GOD DAMN PASSION rape, and wouldn't even subject nice undeserving people to it to save my Mom so there is that...
-Looks wise I do like me some blondes but everything else? Nah, I'm good.

Liz& Amber's Mom:
Burn in the 7 hells
-Looks wise burn in hell.

Brianna:
Better cop, better copulation; Brianna is a perfected beaut! I like her shy nature and truly admire her strive for true justice. While I haven't seen her just mindlessly obey the law despite being out in a position where she should hear someone out; I would HOPE that based on her personality she would be loyal enough to consider going against her nature for you. Easy waifu material right there, though her moal high ground is kind of annoying to my dark nature.
-Looks wise purple long hair really? Obvious go for! Her look is so unique and vibrant I love almost everything about her. Proportions aren't half bad either.


Angelina:
She is a 50/50 much like Emily. I enjoy her personality, she's very down to earth. But she's not PERSONALLY my cup of tea. She'd be a great friend, and she has an attractive aura of shyness to her, it's cute. She's also one of the few people to ask how you are despite not really being one of the "main bitches" in the game.
-Looks wise red head!!!!! BUT I don't care for the tits. I think she's got a cute face overall I'd sleep with her why not?


Laurie:
Oh such a sweetheart, I love her. So naive of the world and yet so brave when she requires it. I love her growth, her nerdy nature and her strong emotional bond to those around her. It's a very welcoming persona that I just adore. Her morality could use some work, being a little too much on the lighter side but that's part of her charm, EASY waifu.
-Looks wise she's I am perplexed by her hair, in a good way I love her face and eyes, and her figure is just a natural good fit. She would be damn near perfect.

Bailey:
Hmm...pass. Boring, but I will say I like her breeding stick, one of my core kinks.
-Looks wise she also isn't my thing, swamp people just don't cut it. Even if I look at proportions she's not really my cup of tea, pass all round.


Danica:
She's a pass. Not a fan of her FUCKING WHINY attitude. Always got a frown like a stick is up her ass ugh the fucking worst. Loud and obnoxious are also very unattractive.
-Looks wise she's a pass as well. I respect the semi goth look I guess, but it's still not enough for me to want to sleep with her. No ass at all.


Zara:
She seemed nice from what I saw of her. Definitely like the aspect of wanting to be free to do whatever and wanting us to join them at S.I.N.
-Looks wise she is a looker, and I'm all for it. Proportions aside (cause I haven't seen enough), her color palette and structure is quite gorgeous, and those yellow eyes are soul crushing.


Alexis:
Eh I don't like her at all. Nothing personal she's just a little too whinny but if that's your thing go for it. Complains about everything has no real personality other than being a nasty fuck and that's about it.
-Looks wise she is incredibly beautiful. Red head (my weakness!), killer eyes, piercings to boot, and that pale skin. Those curves are mesmerizing, she could definitely pass for a fling if I had a muzzle.

Nicolette:
Ugh I DESPISE her SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO god damn much, more than I do anyone in this game, that's it, end of story.
-Looks wise I wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole, fucking cunt.

Nyx:
We don't really know much about her, from what I do know I'd "like" her for now; nothing romantic. I respect her view on death and furthering your power through corruption, so that's a plus?
-Looks wise god she is a GEM. Her proportions are lackluster but I DO like her face and goth aesthetic. Green eyes for the win!



That's my take, lemme know your thoughts, or don't up to you.
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necromater

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So shadow had the finger since she was a pup is that the reason why she is kinda smart? mostly a cunt XD
 

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Those are both the same Oscar
Holy shit, i was completely sure that all of Oscar's family was dead, i had to replay his fight with Michael to remember that he does say that his sister survived hiding. That was my reason to believe they were two different people and only because i remembered the scene wrong.

(by the way thanks for making me replay, i just broke Jared's arm, good times :)).
 

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Deryl's progenitor is the Rebis who happens to be an apostle but an artificially created one through some kind of bio alchemy I'm guessing, so it seems as if it's one without a twin pair and could be outside the 12. Just speculation on where it fits in so far.
Very interested to see future updates if Lucius/Alexis happen to be spawns of monsters descended from the Rebis or what.
I don't think Rebis is an apostle. It's possible that he's under the hypothetical Creation Apostle(or even Life) but does his own thing. I was mostly referring to their ability to create stuff. For example, Lexi can create and control iron. Even in the Dead end against the Origin MC, she used his metal against him before she got smacked. Deryl, and by extension Rebis, create things as well.

All that said, that doesn't mean I'm saying these characters are directly from Apostles. It's highly possible that there's still some mixture happening between them. For example, even if Nyx's monster is hypothetical spawned from a "Death Apostle", there's still a chance that's it's mixed with the 4th with the memory aspect of it's power. I'm just saying that their power may hint that an Apostle with that trait may exist.
You missed one:
---- 13th = "The Knowleage" ----
Spawns/Monsters:
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But is Knowledge Mommy busty and has a thicc twin?

Not going to lie, I have a theory for that as well about how the twins may work. Ever 4th Apostle is female. So that means 4th, 8th and 12th are all women, possibly. I'm joking but that would be hot. Memory Mommy, Holy Light Mommy and some Creation/Life Mommy. That 7th Stuff about his bride make this a bit more kinky too if he was hooking up with his twin.
 

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I don't think Rebis is an apostle.
It's possible it isn't, but Ella was wary of forcing it to work for her so that implies power enough that it should be around that level.

And yeah knowing what we know of the twin nature of the apostles not having a creation apostle to balance out the death one whose line Nyx falls somewhere on would be weird.

Personally I would be interested to know who, if any, of the old guard in HERO are direct apostle spawn, you'd think the origin would've mentioned them if they were but it also mentioned Kenny/Bailey, which should've just been bog standard Minyak so who knows. Or they're just implicitly part of "and the ones who are to come" or whatever it said.
 
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The way Deryl explains it, it doesn't seem like Rebis is an apostle. His goal was to become a new Rebis.

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It sounds to me like he thinks Rebis is a catch all for something like manmade/monstermade monsters. Like an android or a golem. Or he could refer to Rebis as the result created by a "mortalmade" process, even if Rebis is unique.
 

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Ella being alive time.


When it comes to Ella, I feel like the MC totally overlooked something. Maybe he thought it but didn't say it to them. I'll just mention Snow White, so you know where I'm about to go with this. This will tell you all you need to know about what I'm getting at, especially when you factor in that Ella proved this update that she can indeed control herself from a distance. Whether that be by her tentacles underground or via her "Body" power she got from the 3rd. Put these two together and you can start to see what she might've did. It's obvious that she's not dead but this might've been what she did in that moment.

In case you still don't get what I'm referring to, the MC changed a corpse to look like him in prison. Said corpse lasted a long time before it reverted back, if I recall correctly. The MC used that at level 2 and learned it from Level 4 Ella. Ella, now Level 5, was able to command her small body that was disconnecting and reconnecting with her huge main body below. As you can see from her fight with Nico, she was bouncing around all over the place. So it's safe to assume that she could've used a body double, with a decent amount of her energy imbued within it, to take Nyx's death attack, after she split.

Now whether Ella stayed after or left isn't known. She could've used the two agents to be teleported away by Nico. She also could've split temporarily before Nyx attacked and joined back with herself right after. I know what Malik said but he didn't account for the fact that she could possibly sever herself from her body and puppeteer it. She has complete control over her body, so she can most likely "play dead" while hiding in her own corpse to maintain it's form.

Hell, taking it even further, Ella could've hid in the damn tree with the lieutenant lol. The roots were in the ground and we know Ella can use her tentacles like the MC, underground. She could've chilled there while controlling her body with a tentacle. Sight isn't a problem either because Ella can not only see through walls but through underground and from a great distance.

So we have a couple of possibilities here. She could've hid in the tree while controlling her body, or she could split from her body momentarily to take Nyx attack and then joined back to play dead, or even fled outright while commanding her body from a distance. There's so many ways beyond even these that could have happened. Like Nyx's power not actually affecting her at all. She did try to put her mark on the MC but he healed it back with his shapeshifting. While it doesn't function the same as her Negative Energy Death attack, it shows that shape shifting, at least on Ella and MC's level, should be treated differently. Especially so since they're both 1st Generation son's and daughter's of the 3rd and 4th.

So yeah, she's not dead. Even the MC is skeptical about it. That whole ordeal was pretty much a nothing burger, for me. She still got her ass beat though, so there's still that but they definitely didn't kill her. Laurie's fate had way more impact for me because I know she's not a main character and has no OP Monster trait backing her up.

That's it for Ella. I might go into the battles next since I covered the Apostles and a bit of the theory stuff already. I also have to definitely redo the power ranking. Deus position got to be moved to the Beyond section while Nico drops for Malik, Bernhardt and Henri. Malik was a beast this update and if Bernhardt is comparable, if not stronger, that makes them insane.
 

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Just the fact that Ella's body returned to her normal state is suspicious. Nyx's death ray as described by Malik is absolute (If Nyx gets you, you're got), why would a mountain of dead flesh revert to a previous state? After all, anything that Ella or MC create is actual mass, it's not an illusion or some force related phantasm.

There is some talk about maintaining transformations but the way I understand it from MC fights, the energy expenditure happens on creation and when fixing injuries, not maintenance.
 
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Ella being alive time.
Basically where my thoughts have been going as well, there's no way she didn't use a proxy puppet/body to sacrifice to them to throw off their scent, that together with everyone else in SIN saying Ella works for Langdon she's now in a position where she can do what she wants again. She even specifically pointed out Nyx early on and saying that she had access to a monster with her power so it can be reasoned that she's intimately familiar with the ins and outs of it. She could hide herself from all of HERO on Jake as well so shouldn't have been hard for her to go into hiding and then slip out in the aftermath.
 

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Basically where my thoughts have been going as well, there's no way she didn't use a proxy puppet/body to sacrifice to them to throw off their scent, that together with everyone else in SIN saying Ella works for Langdon she's now in a position where she can do what she wants again. She even specifically pointed out Nyx early on and saying that she had access to a monster with her power so it can be reasoned that she's intimately familiar with the ins and outs of it. She could hide herself from all of HERO on Jake as well so shouldn't have been hard for her to go into hiding and then slip out in the aftermath.
I'm surprised that Nico didn't say anything, Mc had the choice to intentionally hold back information on Ella before so he might as well not want to give her out if she is alive (she IS but he doesn't know), but during their fight Nico was surprised when Ella time and time again seemingly was able to make "clones", so she should DEFINITLY bring that possibility to Nyx.

If she did bring that up just to be dismissed then Nyx is either very overconfident or maybe she has a deal with Ella.
 

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On a more entertaining note; It will never not be funny how bad the MC is at naming his various powers and abilities compared to everyone else. I mean "Super Ultra Mega Death Spear of Bone and Doom" was a meme but "Memory Echo" isn't great either.
Alice on the other hand... absolutely no notes on her move names. True Graviton: Minute Collapsar, Graviton Impact, fucking capcom level naming right there.
Malik ain't bad either, if a little on-the-nose. Core Flame, Burning Tower, Seekers.... all fine.
I'm hoping Nyx has got something better than "Negative Energy: Death" at some point. I'm reserving judgement till I hear more.

Going to put together my list of superhumans and powers once the pub release comes out
 
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On a more entertaining note; It will never not be funny how bad the MC is at naming his various powers and abilities compared to everyone else. I mean "Super Ultra Mega Death Spear of Bone and Doom" was a meme but "Memory Echo" isn't great either.
Alice is on the other hand... absolutely no notes on her move names. True Graviton: Minute Collapsar, Graviton Impact, fucking capcom level naming right there.
Malik ain't bad either, if a little on-the-nose. Core Flame, Burning Tower, Seekers.... all fine.
I'm hoping Nyx has got something better than "Negative Energy: Death" at some point. I'm reserving judgement till I hear more.

Going to put together my list of superhumans and powers once the pub release comes out
didn't she named it "Negative Energy: True Death"?
 
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