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DrakoGhoul

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Electricity appears to cause a sudden increase to our power. I presume we will be able to use it (at least small amounts of it) to our benefit when we're prime 3 evolution or 4 lvl evolution.


The fact that your drawings are actually becoming unironically good is... awkward...



I'm bout to make a very specific prediction, I know it will likely not happen this way but it actually seems like a not so bad narrative idea.
I think one of two things may happen.
1-It will take a bit longer to fight him and when we do I think when we're winning he'll evolve (there are just too many signs it will happen to ignore them, muh chekov's gun) and we will have to last long enough for a lvl 5 to come and help us or maybe even get help from charlie Ö Charlie.
2- We'll fight him relatively soon and he'll be a bit of a challenge but he'll get saved from external factors (his allies coming to help him so we have to run or whatever) and then when we fight him again option 1 will happen.
These are actually pretty tamed predictions. What I mean by that is we pretty much all came to the same conclusion that Cole would evolve mid fight. Way back during the interview before Nico fought Hex, if I'm not mistaken.

Current Cole, while powerful, has a flaw in his powers. He seems to need to use his hand and get close for his power to do the maximum amount of damage. Meanwhile, the MC doesn't need to be up close. Now that the evolution gap is closed between them, the MC can attack from multiple angles and deal real damage.

Cole would need to unlock some new ability or something because his known abilities aren't going to be a major problem for the current MC. Unless he's hiding some of his strong abilities, the MC might be too fast and versatile to be beaten by current Cole. His Heavy Armor has flame resistance and a built-in mantis mechanism, which makes his attacks highly lethal for non physical types like Cole.

I'm actually curious if Cole lost his both of his hands, would he still be able to use his power? If he can't then he's screwed if MC is faster than him and figures that out. Especially since he wields diamond blades and swords now.
 

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These are actually pretty tamed predictions. What I mean by that is we pretty much all came to the same conclusion that Cole would evolve mid fight. Way back during the interview before Nico fought Hex, if I'm not mistaken.
I skipped most posts around that time, y'all just write too much to read everything.

Cole would need to unlock some new ability or something because his known abilities aren't going to be a major problem for the current MC. Unless he's hiding some of his strong abilities, the MC might be too fast and versatile to be beaten by current Cole. His Heavy Armor has flame resistance and a built-in mantis mechanism, which makes his attacks highly lethal for non physical types like Cole.
I disagree actually, I don't think he needs a new ability (although I think he will get one) but a lvl 4 high on evolution against a baby lvl 3? just the power gap would be tough to overcome.
My prediction on the ability cole will get is that he'll be able to heat up the air around him so much that we'll melt when we try to hit him (something like klaus' shield but stronger)
 
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I think he meant Ella went missing (MIA is a military acronym, means Missing in Action). Either that or he is high on some Monster fumes Ella simps probably inhale regularly :KEK:


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Worry not mate she is really mean.
And i mean tiffany mean. Pushing my buttons just to have fun. Well i also do the same to her but i don't go snitching her to her mom well mostly because she doesn't care and her mom's tells me your wife your problem ok the mean mouth looks like it's blood heritage but fuck.
 

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I skipped most posts around that time, y'all just write too much to read everything.


I disagree actually, I don't think he needs a new ability (although I think he will get one) but a lvl 4 high on evolution against a baby lvl 3? just the power gap would be tough to overcome.
My prediction on the ability cole will get is that he'll be able to heat up the air around him so much that we'll melt when we try to hit him (something like klaus' shield but stronger)
How is that a disagree when I'm referring to Level 3 Cole needing a new ability? You basically agree that Level 4 is needed. :KEK:
 

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I skipped most posts around that time, y'all just write too much to read everything.


I disagree actually, I don't think he needs a new ability (although I think he will get one) but a lvl 4 high on evolution against a baby lvl 3? just the power gap would be tough to overcome.
My prediction on the ability cole will get is that he'll be able to heat up the air around him so much that we'll melt when we try to hit him (something like klaus' shield but stronger)
Man we can't fight cole mano a mano. More like the minyak in the sewers we Need a heavy hitting ranged weapon for those kind of fuckers like the silk mantis spear but heavier.
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Something like this sac
We just Need speed so he doesn't blow it in our face
 

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I agree that he needs an evolution, not a new ability/power (though he probably WILL get one)
But I think just an evolution without extra powers would be enough to face us.
Yes but I'm not talking about Level 4 Cole here. I'm saying Level 3 Cole would need to unlock a new ability or have a trump card because he wouldn't be too much of a problem for current MC.

You basically agree because you're saying Level 4 is needed in general. Meaning Cole current kit isn't enough at Level 3.
 

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Yes but I'm not talking about Level 4 Cole here. I'm saying Level 3 Cole would need to unlock a new ability or have a trump card because he wouldn't be too much of a problem for current MC.

You basically agree because you're saying Level 4 is needed in general. Meaning Cole current kit isn't enough at Level 3.
Oh I thought you meant he needed to evolve AND get a power.
I guess we agree completely then :KEK:
 
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What's the debate now? We cannot currently beat Cole. He's a peak Lvl 3 (and as we know with Lvl 3+ you can just keep building strength), we JUST evolved. Just because Mommy the 4th said it that ONE time doesn't mean it still applies.

I also HIGHLY doubt that his only ability is jazz heater hands. I'm sure there's much more to it than just molesting people with a touch of his sweaty ass palms.
 

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Okay so while we are waiting for the Long Update (which I'm all for), I want us all to put our thinking caps on for a bit.



I feel like this is a detail overlooked by most people. This is the line in particular:
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Keywords; "the first moment I saw you." "From your parents," "to your scars..."

So we know that Ella was MIA for a year and in that time frame all but confirmed got her powers and lost her parents. Most likely homeless for a time, explaining why she has a soft spot for the orphans (being one herself at a time). We also know while different in age, the MC ALSO went MIA or in this case RAN AWAY from home but this was DUE to his mother's death, albeit a little time after it, for a couple of months/a month (can't remember).

It's possible they met during that time as per the familiarity found in her Memories via the sheets:
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I'm assuming on that last line the us is referring to the homeless men? That the MC mentions took care of him (too lazy to find the line).

Now that begs the question...how did we forget her, and more importantly...how does she know our parents?!

Our Dad? Sure, MAYBE she knows who he is via just stalking us, though I doubt it with how much even WE never see our Dad. But more importantly, how does she know our Mom so well that she sees it as a similarity to herself???

As far as we know even to ourselves our recollection of her is hazy if not suppressed by some deep internal or external force so...how is she so sure of her when even we aren't ourselves?

If we truly DID meet up with her during the gaps in our disappearances and that was AFTER our Mother's death, there is literally NO way of her knowing who she is to the point of familiarity. Unless...she knew us further back than we originally thought?

Keep in mind Ella DOES NOT have the Memory Trait. She wouldn't be able to dig in our heads let alone make us forget about her sooo, what gives? Before anyone says she just had the 3rd do it keep in mind:
A. She doesn't command them.
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B. We didn't have our powers at the time anyways, therefore we didn't have their interests either.
MAYBE she shapeshifted into a homeless man at the camp we stayed at so we didn't recognize her as her; but that still doesn't explain the Mother thing.



Anyway thoughts? Am I looking TOO into it? Or like all things with Ella; is it something much deeper...

Edit: A little sidenote I also find odd is...why did Ella experiment with shapeshifting in front of her Professor in Highschool? She already had her power for 2-3 years by this point so...what was that all about? Or am I forgetting/missing something...
Oh boy, this is a tough nut to crack. I have already scrapped a lot of theories but I think the best way to make sense out of it is having a clear picture of the timeline. So lets set this up as precisely as possible and see where it goes.

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Hopefully there are some useful stuff here for people to make other connections.
 
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What's the debate now? We cannot currently beat Cole. He's a peak Lvl 3, we JUST evolved. Just because Mommy the 4th said it that ONE time doesn't mean it still applies.
We're a bad match up to him imo because of drako already said.


I also HIGHLY doubt that his only ability is jazz heater hands I'm sure there's much more to it than just molesting people with a touch of his sweaty ass palms.
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DrakoGhoul

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Oh I thought you meant he needed to evolve AND get a power.
I guess we agree completely then :KEK:
No lol. I'm saying that he needs to evolve because his current kit isn't enough. Unless he unlocked some new power or has a hidden one at Level 3, MC wouldn't have too much of a problem beating him. Hence, Level 4 is needed.
 

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1) Markus talks about researchers who wanted to reverse monsterfication.
2) MC's scars look very monster like. What mundane scars change the color of the eyes?

I think MC was infected and monsterfied, being so young. Steven took him to the researchers who managed to halt his monsterfication but couldn't completely cure the scars and that's why his eyes are so peculiar. After all we know that an infected human takes quite a long time to completely turn as shown after the Michael vs Leigong fight.
Our scars are likely part of the arbiter or something like that cause otherwise we'd just shapeshift them out of existence.
 

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What's the debate now? We cannot currently beat Cole. He's a peak Lvl 3 (and as we know with Lvl 3+ you can just keep building strength), we JUST evolved. Just because Mommy the 4th said it that ONE time doesn't mean it still applies.

I also HIGHLY doubt that his only ability is jazz heater hands. I'm sure there's much more to it than just molesting people with a touch of his sweaty ass palms.
Peak Level 3 has no correlation to how strong Cole is. That just means he's nearly ready to evolve. He would still lose to Tree Boy, for instance.

That's what was always meant by peak, from my own view. MC was Peak Level 2 at around 80 PP or something when he told Alice he felt like he was at his peak like her. Before he evolved, he was over 100. Hence Peak has nothing to do with how strong you are but moreso how ready you are to evolve. MC was basically Peak Level 1 when he first felt the dark growth and yet he grew a few more power before actually evolving.
 

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Our scars are likely part of the arbiter or something like that cause otherwise we'd just shapeshift them out of existence.
MC can always shapeshift his scars away. He just choses not to.
FMC and his other humanoid forms don't have them.

Edit: Actually I'll come back to that. Need to check a few things.
Edit2: FMC hides her eyes and some of his forms wear glasses, however when he turns into Jared, Deryl and Amber he has no problems hiding his scars.
 
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