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Could you explain why you think Michael would have more trouble against Alice than against MC who can easily beat Alice, considering that Michael also favors fighting at melee like Alice.
I didn't say Michael would have more trouble with Alice, I said he would have a lot less trouble

Extreme diff>High diff>Mid diff>Low diff
 

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They finna catch these hands if they don't stop being an unpaid hall monitor and chillax with these SLAPS~

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If you don't care for ANY of the above, there's one that still belongs to one of these 3, but trumps ALL of them it's not even funny:



Anyways, take what you will form this, next up is Arcade Conundrum after I theorize on what if Shadow knows what sex is.
 
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They finna catch these hands if they don't stop being an unpaid hall monitor and chillax with these SLAPS~

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Anyways, take what you will form this, next up is Arcade Conundrum after I theorize on what if Shadow knows what sex is.
Of course she knows but she went the modern feminist route XD now she has no puppy :confused:
 
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I didn't say Michael would have more trouble with Alice, I said he would have a lot less trouble

Extreme diff>High diff>Mid diff>Low diff
Oh, I thought diff meant difference. Ok I get it now.
 

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For a while I thought Charlie was MC's younger sister that he doesn't remember (also explains why the shopkeep keeps calling him Charlie) for some reason but apparently her brother is locked up inside the HERO base and being kept alive as a lab rat or something? So that theory's dead in the water.

Another theory I have is MC's mom was either a monster or a superhuman as well (who happened to be fertile) and that's why mc is super compatible with the powers or something.
 

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Choose any matchup between them and analyze it.
MC vs Alice
MC vs Michael
Alice vs Michael
Honestly, on an even playing field like that, I don't think MC wins against either of those 2. Alice got wins on MC even while on lower power. As for Michael...shouln't radiation be very effective against the mc? Same with acide and fire, radiation should give him a lot of damage on molecular level, plus, as the mc's power is focused on his spine, radiation is know to turn bone to mush. The way I see it, alice owns mc in a level playing field, while betwen Michael and mc it would come down to who runs out of energy/mass first. Physical powe the 2 guys should be about the same...
Betwen Alice and Michael....idk, they kind of know too well how the other fights, and I can't say how theyr powers go against the other. I guess, based on your set stats, that Alice knows her own powers better then Michael, so she might have an advantage.
Ps: I think the MC's power is actually quite unimpresive compared to...almost anyone elses (exept Tiffany, I am not really impresed by her power). He has 2 aces up his sleve: hard to kill and (very fucking) fast adaptability/evolution/learning while also having a really bad kryptonite, electricity (good thing almost no1 knows that). (I don't bring up mind control cause he only used it in stealth missions with average joes, never saw it in a fighting scenario....well, maybe exept the big miniak, but that was pacifying a monster, don't know if he has power yet to dominate an equal, like Jake did).
...man, Jake really felt like our worst nightmare. That guy came from nowhere, dominated the sector and ALMOST brainwashed US, the OTHER guy with mind powers! Oh yeah, didn't he had control over the red haired for a bit? that bitch was lvl 5 and he was 2!, only 2!!!
Fuck Michael and Alice, who would win betwen Jake with the settup he had when WE fought him, against any other superhuman alone (excluding the generals and Deus).
 
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Honestly, on an even playing field like that, I don't think MC wins against either of those 2. Alice got wins on MC even while on lower power. As for Michael...shouln't radiation be very effective against the mc? Same with acide and fire, radiation should give him a lot of damage on molecular level, plus, as the mc's power is focused on his spine, radiation is know to turn bone to mush. The way I see it, alice owns mc in a level playing field, while betwen Michael and mc it would come down to who runs out of energy/mass first. Physical powe the 2 guys should be about the same...
Betwen Alice and Michael....idk, they kind of know too well how the other fights, and I can't say how theyr powers go against the other. I guess, based on your set stats, that Alice knows her own powers better then Michael, so she might have an advantage.
Ps: I think the MC's power is actually quite unimpresive compared to...almost anyone elses (exept Tiffany, I am not really impresed by her power). He has 2 aces up his sleve: hard to kill and (very fucking) fast adaptability/evolution/learning while also having a really bad kryptonite, electricity (good thing almost no1 knows that). (I don't bring up mind control cause he only used it in stealth missions with average joes, never saw it in a fighting scenario....well, maybe exept the big miniak, but that was pacifying a monster, don't know if he has power yet to dominate an equal, like Jake did).
...man, Jake really felt like our worst nightmare. That guy came from nowhere, dominated the sector and ALMOST brainwashed US, the OTHER guy with mind powers! Oh yeah, didn't he had control over the red haired for a bit? that bitch was lvl 5 and he was 2!, only 2!!!
Fuck Michael and Alice, who would win betwen Jake with the settup he had when WE fought him, against any other superhuman alone (excluding the generals and Deus).
I agree that at face value, both of them look "stronger" than MC. But it's important to remember that MC has regeneration, while the others don't. A single piercing attack to a weak spot will kill Alice and Michael while they have to take a huge chunk out of him to threaten his life.

Alice's Graviton Orb is capable of blowing him to pieces. Michael's Ionized Red is also capable of completely annihilating him. But one is extremely slow to cast and leaves Alice open, and the other one is limited and messes with Michael's ability to empower his body.

Also considering that MC fights at a distance, it's quite easy to just avoid them while keeping up the pressure. So while both of them need their heavy attack to kill him, all MC needs is a piercing tentacle through a weak spot. And he has multiple of them.

Example: Klaus' ring pretty much 1 shots MC. In the 2 times he managed to cast it, we got a deadend. In one that he missed his attempts because MC dodged it, he lost and had to use the drug.
 

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They are going full winddiva fear will keep them in line guess what ?XD we were never in line.
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Sure we had a mod change :cautious: and the new one is being a Lauren XD
Can't believe I woke up to mah glorious posts being deleted.

After allllll the off topic shit we have done...like what made them step in? My STD and military grade propaganda are still up.
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My love is eternal for Shadow and no damn mod no matter how high up on their jolly high horse will stop it:
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I agree that at face value, both of them look "stronger" than MC. But it's important to remember that MC has regeneration, while the others don't. A single piercing attack to a weak spot will kill Alice and Michael while they have to take a huge chunk out of them to threaten his life.

Alice's Graviton Orb is capable of blowing him to pieces. Michael's Ionized Red is also capable of completely annihilating him. But one is extremely slow to cast and leaves Alice open, and the other one is limited and messes with Michael's ability to empower his body.

Also considering that MC fights at a distance, it's quite easy to just avoid them.

Example: Klaus' ring pretty much 1 shots MC. In the 2 times he managed to cast it, we got a deadend. In one that he missed his attempts because MC dodged it, he lost and had to use the drug.
Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you. (Edit: forgot we were actually winning against Klaus for a while).
 
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Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you (btw with Klaus, I dont think we would have ever won against him if we did not evolv there and then, we only won cause we masively overpowered him using our evolution state, otherwise, he was the perfect match against us...Funny, Michael would have been a good match against him, just eat up his energy).
Eh, in the heat of battle no matter who you are a slip up can happen especially against someone who can transform at will.

The MC can play it entirely at range if he wanted via his Eagle form and launch barrages of attacks from there, no matter how agile Alice is she's not faster than MC in that form and while Michael can tank some hits all it takes is a few lethal hits mixed in with all the others to end him (Jellyfish venom), it worked on Ella (although it didnt kill her) and it worked on Klaus too in a dead end.

Now lets just pretend up a scenario where the MC doesn't evolve during Klaus fight and he still has some energy left.

Well, I see it still in MC's favor, we saw him use the venom tentacle in a dead end so he could just use it again and mind you the only reason it dead ended was cause Klaus had his goons kill MC, I think Alice was either dead or completely unable to help at that time (if we are talkin bout MC vs Klaus around the time all the goons are dead due to MC goin full on hatred I think MC has an amazing chance).

I recall in that dead end Klaus didn't have enough time to even use his serum due to the effects of the venom so it works out great for MC if he uses that tentacle before he even pulls it out.

So with Venom tentacle and Alice as backup I see MC winning it even more so if Michael (albeit a human) shows up too.
 

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Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you (btw with Klaus, I dont think we would have ever won against him if we did not evolv there and then, we only won cause we masively overpowered him using our evolution state, otherwise, he was the perfect match against us...Funny, Michael would have been a good match against him, just eat up his energy).
Well yes, they can avoid attacks (multiple ones) and trade very well, but how are they going to close the distance to trade blows? Level 1 MC doesn't fight in melee, it's all about tentacles. Only against Klaus he found a way to get deadly in melee and that's because of Klaus' barrier. Both Michael and Alice are melee specialists with a ranged option, at least as level 1, because past that, both of them get really heavy with the ranged attacks.

I'm not sure why so many people claim this about MC vs Klaus. Klaus got a huge power up because he monsterified artificially. He was on the death's door before taking the drug because MC beat the shit out of him with gorilla arms and other forms that punched through his barrier.

Even in one of the deadends he would probably die if it wasn't for the drug.
 

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Well yes, they can avoid attacks (multiple ones) and trade very well, but how are they going to close the distance to trade blows? Level 1 MC doesn't fight in melee, it's all about tentacles. Only against Klaus he found a way to get deadly in melee and that's because of Klaus' barrier. Both Michael and Alice are melee specialists with a ranged option, at least as level 1, because past that, both of them get really heavy with the ranged attacks.

I'm not sure why so many people claim this about MC vs Klaus. Klaus got a huge power up because he monsterified artificially. He was on the death's door before taking the drug because MC beat the shit out of him with gorilla arms and other forms that punched through his barrier.

Even in one of the deadends he would probably die if it wasn't for the drug.
THIS. I remember the fucking fright Klaus had when seeing MC beginning to evolve he was begging Alice to help him kill evolvin MC which obviously she didn't do. This means Klaus lacked the strength to do it alone.

Mind you, Klaus says something...he said he saw this happen before which implies he has killed Superhuman who were in the process of evolving and I'll assume he did this alone without Danica or Oscar helping which means he was too exhausted to do it by himself (hence him needing Alice).
 
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Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you. (Edit: forgot we were actually winning against Klaus for a while).
Mc was winning before klaus used that temporary monsterfication serum or whatever that was just Lvl vs Lvl 1 we were beating his ass if you had enough skill (atleast 6 skill )by that point in game .
 

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For a while I thought Charlie was MC's younger sister that he doesn't remember (also explains why the shopkeep keeps calling him Charlie) for some reason but apparently her brother is locked up inside the HERO base and being kept alive as a lab rat or something? So that theory's dead in the water.

Another theory I have is MC's mom was either a monster or a superhuman as well (who happened to be fertile) and that's why mc is super compatible with the powers or something.
Her brother was always Oscar. It was hinted at during his fight with Michael and Charlie's own flashback with Ella. Back then, when this was all happening with Charlie, there was still some room for people who thought it was the MC but after Oscar's card came out, those were completely killed. Since they have the same last name and their flashbacks complete each other. It pretty much killed that whole theory with MC and Charlie being related.

I don't want to rub it in but I pretty much told everyone that at the time that it was likely Oscar. His scenes lined up too perfectly with Charlie's.
 
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Yeah, forgot we actually punched through Klaus's shield pre evolution. How? no clue, at the time I was left with the impresion that no pure physical hit should go through that purple shield, but wtv.
You guys are convincing me on Mc vs Alice, but I stand by Mc against Michael, as WW wrote Michael as an omnipotent battlefield god (I feel like I am not even exagerating)so again, I just dont see Michael making a bad fuckup. As for range, the mc has to use his body to attack and any parts he gets close to Michael would get heavily iradiated near instant, and mc, at the time, had no ability to make his skin concrete, so no escaping that. He is not throwing blows agains Michael for free, is my point. So I default to: who runs out of energy/mass first (kind of like mc vs ...wtf, what was our best friends name???...anyway, vs him, a war of atrition where they just end up in bitchslapping each other).
 

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THIS. I remember the fucking fright Klaus had when seeing MC beginning to evolve he was begging Alice to help him kill evolvin MC which obviously she didn't do. This means Klaus lacked the strength to do it alone.

Mind you, Klaus says something...he said he saw this happen before which implies he has killed Superhuman who were in the process of evolving and I'll assume he did this alone without Danica or Oscar helping which means he was too exhausted to do it by himself (hence him needing Alice).
I didn't get the sense that he has killed an evolving superhuman. I think he just saw a superhuman monsterfy and he barely managed to survive or something.

Technically if MC monsterfied, he would get a similar power up that Klaus got, since he was monsterfied too. I'm fairly sure that Klaus knew very well at this point, that no matter if MC monsterfies or evolves, it's light's out for him. So he played the monsterfication card anyway.
 
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