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It was hinted that Ella is working with the apostles(3rd and 4th).
In one of the dead end, when MC reveled he got both traits, she will capture MC and offer him to them.
Also that doc of SIN said they have a representative from monster that bring them knowledge, is likely Ella.
Being a fellow chosen and very few who can understand monster languages also help her to have a rapport with other chosen and command lesser monster.
Well Ella is a pure spawn of 3rd, it's established that she is far superior than MC in terms of body control. It will probably take MC much more power or at a higher lv to successfully copy what Ella did effortlessly at the first place.
I imagine her being a pure spawn of Body also help her to gain understanding of anatomy that beyond compare and thus can see/understand things about body that other cannot.
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Yeah, and it's strange cause she's been doing it since before third evolution. Meaning she's probably has something going for her beside powers.
In that dead end the thing that kills our apostle is 7th, right? The hand is same as in Valravns flashback. Seems interesting that he can just gobble apostle in one swoop like it's nothing. Also seen after evolution in a dream, which is strange since there was no previous interaction.
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There are hints that Ella's ability to see compatibility and other special information about someone, does not come from the trait itself, but from augmenting her eyes through shapeshifting. Similar to how MC can change his eyes to see in the dark, she has changed the anatomy and augmented it with monster features that allow her to perceive far more than a human eye can see.
The main hint is during the Ella vs Gillibrand & Jill & Nico scene.
1) When Gillibrand and Jill announce themselves, Ella has her back turned to them. When she turns around and looks at them, she is surprised how weak they are despite their grand titles.
2) We know Ella has augmented herself, but I think this line is quite telling:
Ella "Heh, I know. You wouldn't believe how much of my eyes and brain I've had to play around with."
The main hint is during the Ella vs Gillibrand & Jill & Nico scene.
1) When Gillibrand and Jill announce themselves, Ella has her back turned to them. When she turns around and looks at them, she is surprised how weak they are despite their grand titles.
2) We know Ella has augmented herself, but I think this line is quite telling:
Ella "Heh, I know. You wouldn't believe how much of my eyes and brain I've had to play around with."
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Maybe however she also put a heavy emphasis on research as shown when the gang was searching for clues in her old school.
I guess 9 and 10 could be Mind and Soul. Eisheth is specifically referred to as having a psychic power, and the best analogue for the mind, if we compare it's diarchy to body/memory, would be the soul.
Got a few questions...
1)Does mc's weaknesses like lightning, fire etc. Disappear with his evolutions?
2) How can anyone even counter timetravel which that captain has... I think the name was zach zakerman right?
3)It seems almost every power has a counter to it.
But the only powers i am failing to find a counter is time travel and ig authority? So what would y'all say is the most versatile power DURING A BATTLE (By battle i mean any kind of battle)
1)Does mc's weaknesses like lightning, fire etc. Disappear with his evolutions?
2) How can anyone even counter timetravel which that captain has... I think the name was zach zakerman right?
3)It seems almost every power has a counter to it.
But the only powers i am failing to find a counter is time travel and ig authority? So what would y'all say is the most versatile power DURING A BATTLE (By battle i mean any kind of battle)
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With absolute power? How can he do anything if the future set in stone? Like he wouldn't be able to do anything no matter what he plans if his enemy could counter or destroy his every plan.
It's theoretically possible that any sufficiently strong superhuman with a monster parent from the 7th's line could screw with powers that allow prescience, including Zaman's. The Darkness trait messes with all superhuman powers, but the intangible ones that are purely supernatural get hit the worst. Clearly they couldn't see the ass whooping that the (heavily implied to be) 7th put on all of Team Kronos coming, nor try to loop out of it to avoid the fight. It's also been shown that those that inherit the power, even in its impure form, are capable to punching well above their weight class. But it's also been shown that, like many other possible story-breaker powers in the game, having sufficient amounts of power mitigates its effects.
It does make me wonder on how exactly Zaman and Halona's powers work though, since they couldn't see it coming. For Zaman at least, I highly suspect his power operates on a mark and return system, so he probably got screwed over because he lost the ability to loop back to before the whole team got manhandled by the avatar of a god. He definitely has something more broken than the main application of his power up his sleeves though, as he did something to save his team from getting massacred as a mere level 4 (albeit an extremely old one) despite getting into an encounter with something that's so absurdly powerful that in-universe it's infamous for killing and eating the avatars of other apostles.
It does make me wonder on how exactly Zaman and Halona's powers work though, since they couldn't see it coming. For Zaman at least, I highly suspect his power operates on a mark and return system, so he probably got screwed over because he lost the ability to loop back to before the whole team got manhandled by the avatar of a god. He definitely has something more broken than the main application of his power up his sleeves though, as he did something to save his team from getting massacred as a mere level 4 (albeit an extremely old one) despite getting into an encounter with something that's so absurdly powerful that in-universe it's infamous for killing and eating the avatars of other apostles.
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yeah and you get that by having a bit more power so to confront head-on jake when he visits you in the prison
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That's some generational hate right there. First Valravn and now these constructs majority made of the 7th and 8th hate her too? Looks like 7th's line straight up just hate 4th Daughter. I wouldn't even be surprised if Eisheth memories was actually referring to Aglaecwif as well. At first I thought it was Valravn on his misogynistic grind set, calling the other monster women whores and such. But Eisheth might be referring to Monster Mommy with that memory.
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can anyone list all the "gods" for me? i only know third is the purple guy "father" and fourth is the "mother" and who are the current "children" they have. also what really happened on the early bad end where "father/mother" are killed by another monster?
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The Apostles and their spawn are as follows:
1st - The Authority (Jake)
2nd - The Power (Michael)
3rd - The Body (Ella,MC)
4th - The Memory (MC)
5th - Time (Unconfirmed) (Deus, Zach?)
6th - The Ether (Alice)
7th - Darkness/The Lord of Dark (Valravn)
8th - Light (Tiffany)
9th - Truth (Eiseth)
10th - Fantasy (Aglaecwif)
11th - Destruction (Evander)
12th - Creation (Devana, Rebis)
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