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With that said, what're y'all top 3 favorite fights?
Did you forget about the Valravn fight, or are you just wrong?

Me personally I'd say MC vs Valravn, MC vs Deryl (the sequel), and MC vs Cole.
I found the Eisheth fight dragged on a bit. It's actually the only fight I found myself getting a little bored.
 

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Tbh this update immensely improved Liz/Amber's characters for me. I wish their first plot lines weren't so uninteresting, but I can't really complain because it was the early game. Either way I like their new concept, I hope it stays like that with occasional moments where they can be... normal again.
 

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With that said, what're y'all top 3 favorite fights?
For nostalgia I would actually say MC vs Jake vs Deryl. That shit was so iconic and it feels like the first big fight (even if we fought Klaus before, the feelings weren't strong back then. This packed way more emotion).

But trying to be more nuanced than that... shit, MC vs Valravn is undisputed. Like, most of the fights in the late game are freaking amazing but it feels like this one was perfect in all regards. Tbh it might be the "I don't need to evolve" and the soundtrack that makes it for me, but idk, it felt like our abilities were being properly tested for the first time against a villain with probably the best aesthetic yet. Also the fact that in that context we kind of were fighting to regain popularity in the public eye, I actually felt like a superhero there lol.

Secondly I'd say MC vs Deryl, and in the back of my mind I kind of include Alice/Michael vs Chimeras too because it's what was happening at the same time. Awesome stuff too, but not as memorable imo. I specially like the final part of the fight where they start using abilities beyond our comprehension. That update felt like a proper introduction to superhumans and monsters. We were a bit closer to understanding what they were capable of.

Then I'm torn between three fights... I believe on a practical level the Cole and Elijah fights are the best. Well-developed abilities, great storytelling and good twists. But I'm inclined to choose Michael vs Leigong. Yeah, it's a bit unusual, but the idea of a human vs a monster was nuts to me, the fight legit drove me crazy and wouldn't let me stop worrying about him while being amazed at what he could do, drugs or not. Also... that fucking end? It actually left me speechless. Like, I knew I had seen that somewhere else before (when MC met his monsters in the beginning of the game) but I was still unprepared for it, since the method seemed to be different and bizarre. For a split second I thought we lost him.
 
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The Xantes family, constantly one uping themself on how much of a POS you can be and still be vew as a good person by people around them
 
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Did you forget about the Valravn fight, or are you just wrong?

Me personally I'd say MC vs Valravn, MC vs Deryl (the sequel), and MC vs Cole.
I found the Eisheth fight dragged on a bit. It's actually the only fight I found myself getting a little bored.
During my first play through I went for power when fighting Michael for the very first time and was too soft hearted to pull through and get 80 power :-;. So I had to replay everything, just so Valravn would stop calling me a pussy... During that time the cop girl shouldn't have saved MC, should've ended with an Dead End=you lacking.

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1. MC v Deryl. (The evolution trance fight was top notch)
2. MC vs Cole. (Honestly was mesmerizing, Mc using his memory trait a lot in an actual fight, and you get so into it just to see a blood surface outside Cole, hot burning neck...)
3. Kira, Elijah, Bernhardt vs Eisheth and Shen (Bernhardt kicking Eisheth's ass was satisfying, after how she acted throughot the fight with Kira and Elijah.)
 
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My thoughts on the update after I finished my low and high corruption playthroughs:

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And I think that's about it. An excellent update overall and the cliffhanger at the end wasn't nearly as bad as the last couple ones.
I'm going to be honest the state of the twins pisses me off to no end...but hey, MC was able to help Deryl so he better be able to help the twins. But this is so much worse than Deryl because I never much cared what became of him. And I am a bit sad that high corruption will provide literally nothing but negatives for the MC, I was really hoping there would be some benefits there similar to Nyx whose entire power is corruption based and she's not insane or dead and got through her evolutions just fine but we don't get anything but blocked paths and dead ends which just sucks...there really should have been a counterbalance to corruption where it also opens up some things not just take things away but oh well...cheating it is. Not that I have much choice since I played the game unable to know or plan for any of this.
 

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During my first play through I went for power when fighting Michael for the very first time and was too soft hearted to pull through and get 80 power :-;. So I had to replay everything, just so Valravn would stop calling me a pussy... During that time the cop girl shouldn't have saved MC, should've ended with an Dead End=you lacking.

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1. MC v Deryl. (The evolution trance fight was top notch)
2. MC vs Cole. (Honestly was mesmerizing, Mc using his memory trait a lot in an actual fight, and you get so into it just to see a blood surface outside Cole, hot burning neck...)
3. Kira, Elijah, Bernhardt vs Eisheth and Shen (Bernhardt kicking Eisheth's ass was satisfying, after how she acted throughot the fight with Kira and Elijah.)
Yeah the power economy to reach 80 is insane...you pretty much have to play with a guide or something because there is almost no room for error. I followed the guide and got every single power point up to the requirement including all corruption kill points and I was at 83 or 84 and there are a lot of places where one wrong click, one wrong choice, locks you out. Same with the 28 skill requirement to save Laurie. I don't know how the game will be with these things going forward but I am always trying to get every power and skill point that I can.
 
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So I was right, yet again. We don't get to kill Cole, because that would be too satisfying to the players, and we can't have that.
Score 1 for me.

And of course, after ruining Amber and Liz, we had to have some deus-ex-machina bullshit, and "they" came back from the dead, but worse. "They" are now an some fucked up abomination. Bot Liz and Amber were used up sluts, so nothing was lost. But even they did not deserve that to happen to them, better to stay dead. Either way Score another for me.

So what is that by now? 4 to 0 in my favour in predicting the way this story will go? Including the two story notes I predicted before the twins abduction: The mc not being allowed a win and stopping the twins from being taken, because we absolutely must have more pointless melodrama, because human characters are worthless compared to superhumans, and Deryl doing jack and shit, yet again.
You know, if you're going to troll, you can at least do it well. Let's see some better lies.
 

Juan96

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Cole was at the peak of level 3 and still couldn't beat the MC, he only got some advantage after evolution and even with more power he couldn't make the most of it compared to the way the MC who is at level 3 uses his powers, I hope much of Mc 4th evolution in terms of power and change in appearance, considering Cole's physical transformation.
 

TheOneZR

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So i got to start over because i am sitting at 47 corruption not killing the cops jake or danica but i kill a lot of people still scientist, farmer, emily father loan sharks, alpha breaker, suwu, long, etc, well the thing i gotta ask by the time of sin infiltration is worth it to do a repeat of the tournament to get those extra 3 power and skill points what change if is just hero recruit i am doing it.
 

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Whoo baby, great update. Shit will hit the fan next update with the whole Eclipse thing and I'm all for it. Great fights, great lore, great everything.

A level 5 Strength Eater spawn will be a huge issue for anyone. Literally everything an opponent does powers them up so they can hit back harder every single time. Pretty ridiculous unless you can overload them, but good luck doing that. I hope we see the twins get there one way or another.

It's interesting that they apparently don't make spawn normally. I love that the lore has such little tidbits, makes things very interesting for me and gives something to think about.
 
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Dipasimaan

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An air for your thought's on the update?
My thought on the update is that generally it's great and a good ending to the Twins arc.
More specifically: Cole's fight was really awesome and engaging, a bit strange that we beat him while having half of his power levels but I can see it as MC being more skilled and adaptable with his

The design of Cole's 4th evolution is quite fascinating even though I like him without the jaw

The fate of Cole was particular, while from a perspective I find it deserved and perfect from another one I would've preferred having the choice to kill him, even though mid-fight I was starting to doubt it

The rest of the update is good chunk of resolve and decisions that matter just in the short end apart from probably two, not saying it's a bad thing, it's just that I think our dear MC and friends will remain in the beautiful monster world for quite a while, hopefully nurturing the powers and maybe when they get out some will hit the next evolution stage

Apart from these things there are several little things that don't really matter much and seeing as I'm not really a perfect reviewer I'll stop here.

Though the sex scenes were great
 
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gargamel44

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I think our dear MC and friends will remain in the beautiful monster world for quite a while, hopefully nurturing the powers and maybe when they get out some will hit the next evolution stage

Though the sex scenes were great
A good ol' timeskip would do wonders tbh but knowing that other characters will get powers too (like Emily or Claudia) it probably would be best if the timeskip is done so everyone who will start off late has a chance to at least be stage 3 before MC reaches his fifth. But who knows maybe we get more than one timeskip.
 

gargamel44

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Btw do you know if WW uses any app or AI for the early backgrounds? I feel like I've seen the same aesthetic somewhere else and it certainly feels a bit pc generated.
 

JustADude321

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So, on one hand, Cole's fight leads me to believe that level 4 evolutions work in a similar way to One Piece's awakaned devil fruits, in that they "externalize" powers that are mostly internal and individual. Which leads me to believe that once MC evolves, he could perhaps alter the form of other people and things as well as his own... and maybe alter memories as well which would be fucked up and maybe reserved for 5. This could mean that he could help Liz and Amber separate once more.

Now, on the other hand, the fact that WW explicitly gave Liz and Amber a way to switch between one another, and hinted at them eventually being able to do it without the earring during the Shopkeeper interaction, also kinda leads me to believe that the twins' change is permanent, or at least long term. Either this means that I'm talking out of my ass and the level 4 transformation will evolve MC's powers in some other way, that even if he does evolve in such a way he won't be able to revert Tanos' procedure, or that we're a long, long way from a new evolution.

Or maybe something else entirely, I'm just speculating. Game's great though.
 
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