Strongly doubt a level 4 mc has any chance against a fully powered chosen. Going to take a looooooooooot more than that
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- Jan 31, 2021
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There's no way a level 4 MC can beat Indra, the most powerful Chosen right now and likely the one who wiped Zack's entire team when they were level 4. Even Eisheth was able to beat two level 5 without needing to go all out.
- Jan 21, 2024
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Indra didn't beat Zacky's team, that was the Lord of Dark. Indra is the one he talks about being a "Inteligent S+ Rank", that he wanted Malik to fight but didn't manage to arrange that. But yeah, no way in hell MC beats at just Evo 4.
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Well maybe...but the MC is a chosen himself. There is obviously the mysterious eye origin and on top of that the MC now has the support of all 12 monster apostles who all work together to resurrect the MC when he initially dies to Cole at first. So I think it may well happen...and let's not forget the mysterious trials needed for a natural 5th evolution that are incredibly dangerous. And dead end 42 exposes that the natural 5s in hero are all chosen themselves...bonded in some way with another entity each. Beating someone like Indra may be exactly the type of insanely dangerous trial needed for a natural 5th evolution.
- Jul 13, 2021
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This actually isn't out of the question in my opinion. Let me explain why:
- According to Henri, Bernhardt was stronger than Kira and Elijah as a level 4.
- If MC is destined to become the strongest Superhuman, becoming at least as strong as Bernhardt was as a level 4 is kind of expected
- MC constantly punches above his weight class because his power is very versatile
So he may actually have a chance.
- Nov 26, 2020
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Because of how op power twin type is, it's the only way I see mc going to gain an edge over currently high-ranking monstrous power of all those at the top and once again I also speculate this because of his female side, he was also kind of feminine looking before his transformation. Who know may be he get to meet one of the kings of the monster world and they grant him a boon of sort in the next update.
Yeah...Henri and Bernhardt are both natural 5s and chosen themselves. This seems to be a massive thing that HERO are hiding...natural 5s all basically have to be chosen of some vastly powerful entity and they are all vastly better than serum evolved 5s. This might also be what Dr. Xanthe means when he says that the MC might have already failed a requirement for a natural 5th evolution because the MC's 3rd was basically a serum induced evolution...but he doesn't know about eye origin now connected to the MC.
It might also be precisely what makes a natural 5th evolution so dangerous and why there are trials nobody wants to talk about. Having to face vastly powerful entities who can just erase you from existence on a whim in hopes of gaining their support would make a natural 5th evolution extremely dangerous. Having to fight and potentially defeat a chosen might also be another. Going for a natural 5th evolution would basically guarantee death or success with very low chance of the latter.
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The 12 Apostles don't resurrect MC. They are the reason for his suffering. MC never dies to level 3 Cole. His anguish due to Liz's death causes his Apostolic memories to go haywire and break his mind.
Pay attention to what happens..."What are you?" Correct answer: a human, "what do you need?" Correct answer: resurrection, "What do you want?" Correct answer: a heart. And then the MC gets the feeling of something like 12 bullets going through his brain and he feels the 12 are trying to connect to him and potentially to each other. Not to mention that all 12 gave the MC power to escape the dream...yeah, that was resurrection and it was performed by the 12 apostles.
- Jan 21, 2024
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The serum isn't a problem, Henri himself comments to Berniboy:
Henri: "They're adapting well to their evolution"
Berniboy: "not as well as we were, the serum is flawed"
Henri: "no, we are just different, you were much stronger than them before you even evolved"
Even the Arbiter comments that Ella and Nico are perfected spawn ("waiting for me are two perfected spawn, engaged in heated battle" is how he refers to both Ella and Nico) when he sees them fighting (in the deadend MC monsterfies in the Battle of Diamond).
The big difference seems to be the process of evolving to 5th, as in the jorney to the evolution or the special conditions to make it happen naturaly, not the serum itself.
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- Jan 21, 2024
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Isn't this because MC was still running high after connecting to them in paths and all that (he even had power poisoning not even 10 min before the fight because of it)?.
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- Apr 21, 2022
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Hmm makes sense because level4 is also the limit breaker stage and also the stage where you can say fuck off to the rules of universe.
- Dec 20, 2020
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That is straight up wrong. I went back and checked those exact choices. No mention of "12 bullets going thorugh MC's brain", no 12 connections, nothing. The only thing that happens with those answers is that if you choose Despair, you get deadend 41, which is a failed evolution. Not even the Arbiter Deadend mentions anything about the 12 apostoles.
- Apr 17, 2024
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Well, if the MC turned his electricity weakness to electricity absorption, Indra functionally wouldn't be a fully-powered Chosen. He'd be down one of his strongest weapons, and "only" be an incredibly physically powerful combatant with literal eons of experience in hand to hand combat. So okay, yeah, it would still be a really tough fight. There would probably have to be an additional circumstantial factor giving the MC an advantage. I still think it's a plausible scenario, though. At the very least the MC evolving from confronting Indra sounds likely to me.
Dead end 42 provides definite proof that the 3 natural 5 HERO agents are all bonded to some other entity each and are vastly more powerful than their power level might initially let on. Even Esther or whatever her name is mentions that Bernhardt could only be beaten by...and then doesn't finish the sentence. There is definitely far more to natural 5s that serum evolved 5s just don't get or are very unlikely to get. Ella herself clearly says after her 5th evolution that she was not chosen.
- Apr 21, 2022
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Yo this might actually be the fight where mc finally gets over his electricity problem.Indra being the lightning god he is might be just what mc needs to overcome his electricity problem.Not to mention level 4 being limit breaker stage aswell.
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You've got it wrong:
"I lost my cool."
"A moment was all they were waiting for, just the briefest slip in control."
"And as soon as they got it, it was over. The tidal wave of memories came bursting forth, shattering the dam that was my mind."
You "Hrrghh...."
"My nerves burn with fire; agony explodes from every limb."
"The memories take over my tails."
Once MC loses his cool, the memories assault his mind.
"I'm shot twelve times. Twelve bullets hammer into my mind."
"I can feel each of them burrowing deeper, seeking to connect to something, to each other? To me? To something beyond myself?"
"The destruction of my body eases the burden, the memories retreating just slightly. My mind consolidates-"
His memories cause him pain and confusion and similar to deadend1, once he gets damaged, he regains control of his mind.
From there on, the choices manipulate the 3 variables, memorysucceed, memoryascend and nothingmemory
memorysucceed positive is the correct answer for low corruption runs
nothingmemory is the correct answer for high corruption runs
memoryascend is the wrong answer which leads to deadend42 and deadend43
memorysucceed positive:
Human, Death, Heart or Weapon
memorysucceed negative:
Monster, Evolution
nothingmemory:
nothing, nothing. nothing. nothing
memoryascend:
God, Resurrection, Eyes
So you are mistaken, resurrection is the wrong choice, as it increments the deadend counter.
The correct response is either Death or Nothing depending on the type of playthrough.
Resurrection is literally the recommended answer by the Multi-Mod and I can 1000% confirm that A human, resurrection, a heart do not lead to a dead end...not unless you choose despair as the 4th word. The optimal best 4 words to choose are the three I mentioned plus hope as the 4th.
You are focusing on all of the wrong information and are making wrong assumptions too. Ressurection is a correct answer, not a trigger to a dead end...the only way to get a dead end is if you screw something else up.
- Jan 1, 2024
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How do we get stronger?
I don't think we're close to our 4th Evo, in all honesty, I believe it could be a very long time yet, and this is where our greatest problem lies, we need to get stronger, much stronger. After months in the monster world it's very possible that the world will be at war or partially destroyed, and even if we train the Memory Trait to the max, I doubt it will be enough
So how can we get even stronger?
I don't think we're close to our 4th Evo, in all honesty, I believe it could be a very long time yet, and this is where our greatest problem lies, we need to get stronger, much stronger. After months in the monster world it's very possible that the world will be at war or partially destroyed, and even if we train the Memory Trait to the max, I doubt it will be enough
So how can we get even stronger?