Gtdead

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Resurrection is literally the recommended answer by the Multi-Mod and I can 1000% confirm that A human, resurrection, a heart do not lead to a dead end...not unless you choose despair as the 4th word. The optimal best 4 words to choose are the three I mentioned plus hope as the 4th.
The multimod is wrong and this works only because the dev gives you leeway to make 2 errors
The memoryascend variable leads to the deadend. If you increment it enough times you lose.

My answer comes directly from the script and the conditionals.
The optimal choices are Human, Death, Heart or Weapon (exact same effect), Hope or Hate (+5P/1S or +10P) for low corruption
and Nothing, Nothing, Nothing, Nothing (+3S/13C) for high corruption
 

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In my playthrough atleast I did resurrection,human,love and hope aswell and only died when I choose the the despair option if I remember correctly mc tries to evolve and cole plunges his blade into MC's heart and mc dies.
 
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How do we get stronger?
I don't think we're close to our 4th Evo, in all honesty, I believe it could be a very long time yet, and this is where our greatest problem lies, we need to get stronger, much stronger. After months in the monster world it's very possible that the world will be at war or partially destroyed, and even if we train the Memory Trait to the max, I doubt it will be enough

So how can we get even stronger?
I'm hoping the MC finally gets to work on scanning monsters to use their anatomy in his transformations. Aside from the monster heart he absorbed, he hasn't done any of that since the idea was raised. He's in a world where all animal life is monsters, maybe he'll run into something worth using.
 

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I'm hoping the MC finally gets to work on scanning monsters to use their anatomy in his transformations. Aside from the monster heart he absorbed, he hasn't done any of that since the idea was raised. He's in a world where all animal life is monsters, maybe he'll run into something worth using.
Yeah optimising his base body like Xanthe said with the best of other creatures might be the way before evolution.
 

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I'm hoping the MC finally gets to work on scanning monsters to use their anatomy in his transformations. Aside from the monster heart he absorbed, he hasn't done any of that since the idea was raised. He's in a world where all animal life is monsters, maybe he'll run into something worth using.
I think about it too. Using a weapon or wearing some armor seems completely out of the question, I don't see how using either of those two could help us. Using monster bodies, strengthening us with their flesh seems like the best option, but I feel that something else is missing
 
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I can literally tell you it's not...I have done this answer combination at least 5 times and never got a dead end...not once.
Human, Death, Heart
Human, Death, Weapon
Human, Evolution, Heart
Human, Evolution, Weapon
Monster, Death, Heart
Monster, Death, Weapon
Human, Nothing, Nothing
Life, Death, Eyes

All of these are valid combinations that pass the check and this list isn't exhaustive. Just don't pick despair because it leads to deadend41
The reason they pass is because all of them have less than 3 memoryascend and at least 1 memorysucceed.
So either reread what I wrote and try to understand it, check the script yourself, or drop it. You are wrong.
 

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Human, Death, Heart
Human, Death, Weapon
Human, Evolution, Heart
Human, Evolution, Weapon
Monster, Death, Heart
Monster, Death, Weapon
Human, Nothing, Nothing
Life, Death, Eyes

All of these are valid combinations that pass the check and this list isn't exhaustive. Just don't pick despair because it leads to deadend41
The reason they pass is because all of them have less than 3 memoryascend and at least 1 memorysucceed.
So either reread what I wrote and try to understand it, check the script yourself, or drop it. You are wrong.
Well regardless of anything else there is a clear and obvious intervention by the 12 apostles at that point...they are the ones asking the questions which we answer. So even if you want to say it's not a resurrection(which it seems pretty clear to me that it is), they clearly help the MC recover and fight.
 

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Well regardless of anything else there is a clear and obvious intervention by the 12 apostles at that point...they are the ones asking the questions which we answer. So even if you want to say it's not a resurrection(which it seems pretty clear to me that it is), they clearly help the MC recover and fight.
No, all they do is force him to evolve and monsterfy as per dead end 41. Cole kills him before that happens.

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Human, Death, Heart
Human, Death, Weapon
Human, Evolution, Heart
Human, Evolution, Weapon
Monster, Death, Heart
Monster, Death, Weapon
Human, Nothing, Nothing
Life, Death, Eyes

All of these are valid combinations that pass the check and this list isn't exhaustive. Just don't pick despair because it leads to deadend41
The reason they pass is because all of them have less than 3 memoryascend and at least 1 memorysucceed.
So either reread what I wrote and try to understand it, check the script yourself, or drop it. You are wrong.
I made it with human, evolution, heart and hope, so it's clear that plenty choices avoid a dead end, though i had no idea evolution was a bad answer, it sounded like the right one at the time to me.
 

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I made it with human, evolution, heart and hope, so it's clear that plenty choices avoid a dead end, though i had no idea evolution was a bad answer, it sounded like the right one at the time to me.
Yes, because:
Human +1
Evolution -1
Heart +1

Total of +1 memorysucceed, which is enough to pass the check.
It would also work with Weapon for the same reason, but Eyes or Nothing lead to deadend41
 

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No, all they do is force him to evolve and monsterfy as per dead end 41. Cole kills him before that happens.

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They don't force anything...it's a possible outcome to giving the wrong answers but they clearly do not force it...in fact they literally help as you can get more power and/or skill from them if you don't screw up the answers. But the MC faced the 12 apostles each and got 10 power from each to help him escape the dream and they help once again against Cole.
 

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Because of how op power twin type is, it's the only way I see mc going to gain an edge over currently high-ranking monstrous power of all those at the top and once again I also speculate this because of his female side, he was also kind of feminine looking before his transformation. Who know may be he get to meet one of the kings of the monster world and they grant him a boon of sort in the next update.
I don't really think anything of the female form of the MC...he's a shapeshifter, can have any form. I don't think that it's indicative of having a twin. If the MC has anything remotely close to something like a twin then it was either absorbed before birth to be revealed later(though I doubt it), or it's Charlie. Though Charlie is 2 years younger than the MC so probably not birth twin...not unless there is some kind of time distortion shenanigans at play. But I think Charlie will be very important to the MC's growth at some point. Not sure if he'll end up having to fight her and absorbs her or if they'll be forced to work together by some circumstances or what but I think something big will happen between Charlie and the MC.
 

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They don't force anything...it's a possible outcome to giving the wrong answers but they clearly do not force it...in fact they literally help as you can get more power and/or skill from them if you don't screw up the answers. But the MC face the 12 apostles each and got 10 power from each to help him escape the dream and they help once again against Cole.
I'm not sure where you are getting these. The Apostles didn't give anything to MC. He took their memories by himself, by finding connections through those dreams. And just like Syla said, by absorbing high quality memories he increases his power. These same memories are so overwhelming that when he lost control of his emotions after seeing Liz dead, he almost died.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree. There's not even a single point of agreement between us on this matter.
 

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"But I lack the control, the mastery. This false evolution cannot save me. Even if I were to survive his blade, my ascension would just leave me a......."
play sound "audio/explodefire2.mp3"
stop music
scene explosion6 with hpunch
Cole "HHHHAAAA!!!!"
"Dead End 41: A mind diverged."
$ MainMenu(confirm=False)()
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Gt why do you think mc called the evolution as false in these lines
 
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That happens during the campfire event when ella says she's going back to the tent...you can follow her or ignore, if you follow you get the scene.
I dont think I got an option to follow, she just stayed at the campfire
 

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The most straightforward answer is because he believes he is going to monsterfy.
Monsterfication typically happens during evolution, but the result is not what it should be. So it's false.
Makes sense the lines going with lack of control,the mastery.
 
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I dont think I got an option to follow, she just stayed at the campfire
You either told her you hate her, or you ratted her out to Malik back when she first made her appearance
The game only checks the "hateella" variable for this scene
 
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