confusing bug @ start of game, day 1 - spoilers ahead for folks who havent played yet...
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The problem with this is, you're overlooking what Doll Ella said in that quote. She makes the distinction quite clear. She said humans turned by monsters can inherit their genetic line and can sometimes get bouts of interaction with the Originator of said line. The monster and originator parts are specified for a reason.
The simplest way to point out what she's talking about is with Alice in that very scene itself.
Alice = Superhuman
Aos = Monster/Chosen
The 6th = Apostle/Originator
Alice is known to be turned by Aos. She's apart of his genetic line. However, on her 2nd Evolution she comes into contact with the 6th Apostle, the Originator of the entire line. That's what Ella is referring to here. We also know Amber and Liz were turned by Strength Eaters. If they were physically sent to the Great Ocean, why would they still be with Tanos? We know their spirit can be sent through their connection because of MC, but that doesn't mean they were turned by the Great Ocean.
So this doesn't mean Amber and Liz was turned by the Great Ocean. This just means they were turned by Strength Eaters that are high in hierarchy. Their compatibility and high connection allows Amber to see the Great Ocean. The Great Ocean is the Originator of the line, while it's monsters carry the genetic line. In simpler terms, Amber only sees the Great Ocean because she has high enough compatibility and status in the line to see it. It's the same thing that happens to Alice. Only that Amber got it on her first evolution/infection.
As for Amber being distracted this update. The Great Ocean is legit right there in front her. She's pretty much in the presence of her "God". Just like Ella and MC fear the "God" in the sky, Amber will feel close to hers in the ocean.
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I suspected they weren't both infected by the same monster either... from the battle of the diamonds we know that Undines and Strength Eaters are supposed to work very well together, they kept Malik busy for so long. So maybe Amber was infected by an Undine or something akin to that with similar abilities that compliment the powers of a strength eater. Maybe Tanos' hope was by fusing them together he might be able to create a sort of closed loop of a Strength eater that could almost endlessly empower itself with the support of an Undine or another similar Monster ?
It is so weird the way the waters of the monster world back away from her... same as the spiders that seemed to be afraid of Liz even before she used her power.
The water almost behaved like how Like charges repel each other ... but if their waters were the same they should be easier to mix not move away from one another. Maybe its to signify that Amber has command of her own water while the sea water on the planet belongs to a separate entity ?
And when Deryl calls Amber back she says she felt she was close to touching the water. Which does sound like she was maybe in a mini trance.
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Currently in the part when you follow Amber and Liz around in order to protect them, and in the free time I have I saw that there are new monster parts in the shop, which items should I prioritize? can I buy most/all? there's also the vortex stone the guide mentions but it's not there for some reason.
Currently in the part when you follow Amber and Liz around in order to protect them, and in the free time I have I saw that there are new monster parts in the shop, which items should I prioritize? can I buy most/all? there's also the vortex stone the guide mentions but it's not there for some reason.
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Vertex stone is for the next time you get to interact with the Shopkeep, that's all I can say without spoiling you much.
Also, just buy the most expensive one, depending on what path you are, buy what's the most suitable and gives you the most stats in your playthrough. GL.
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I'm not a fan of ren'py, but people say very good things about this game and there's also NTR as a bonus, I'll give it a try, wish me luck.
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So if i understand it right you think that Amber meeting Great Ocean was an immaterial thing through her connection with the originator of her monster line, and that it happened while she was still at the same lake Tanos sent them, well i honestly didn't have that impression.
I don't think we can say for certain that the twins were still physically at the same lake when Amber sees Great Ocean, plenty of the comments made by her at the time are about what she feels with her body and the process of "dying":
She feels both the blinding light and the hot water
Her eyes adjust to the light
Her eyesight fades due to the loss of blood and oxigen
She feels that she can't breath
Even if we take that some of those feeligs were due to her "real" location most things seem to be reactions to whatever the place Great Ocean was.
As for how they returned i don't think it would be a problem either to Great Ocean or any strenght eater to return them, the only thing we need to consider is purpose.
Also at this very moment there is a sound effect, it's not one of someone being bitten but instead seems like one of a power being used, i wonder if it's the sound of the strenght eater teleporting amber to Great Ocean
The sound is however different from both Liz and Nico's teleportation
Lastly i'm not sure if we can say for certain that Amber was infected by a strenght eater, her different power set could indicate that Great Ocean was the ond who did it, and this could be the case if she was sent to his dimension.
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You really don't have to make many assumptions for Foxglove powers. The way this works as explained by ingame and stream sources is:
1. Human is infected by a monster.
2. If the Human is genetically compatible he turns into a spawn. (Xanthe)
3. The Spawn inherits the best version of the trait that the monster is capable of passing. (WW stream)
4. The Spawn forms a connection to the originator of the line. (Ella, Xanthe)
5. Originators aren't monsters. Getting infected by them is different. (WW Stream)
6. A spawn can become an "inheritor" (possibly meaning Chosen but it may be something else) if the Originator wills it (Alice's evolution)
What Amber saw is highly likely to be the Great Ocean, but the most plausible assumption is that she didn't interact with him. She just had a vision through their connection similar to how it works during evolutions and the powers she has manifested are Strength Eater powers and not Great Ocean powers.
The simplest prediction is that the Foxgloves will inherit power from the Great Ocean, not abilities.
Unless the Great Ocean can somehow "upgrade" their trait. However I think that spawn evolutions are better than what Originators can come up with and this is based on Ella, Syla and the latest memory trance snippets.
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Straight up definition of "come for the porn, stay for the plot"
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Does anyone know the best option for helping out Tiffanny??
Money?
Love?
Body?
Sister? (Lowkey eager to press it)
Power?
Money?
Love?
Body?
Sister? (Lowkey eager to press it)
Power?
To attempt to keep this spoiler light, It seems that for the time being the answer is Power. Later down the line it'll result in her giving you items worth 30 Power. You don't really need the extra relationship points choosing Money could potentially give you for any stat checks, and though there will be stat buffing items available for purchase later, you should be able to earn the cash to buy them as long as you perform available jobs first.
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I use the words "gods, deities, godlings, hands, aspects" etc, but that's something only WW can answer.
From the game we know that "monsters" were created by the Apostles, so the info from stream is just confirmation. But more than that is anyone's guess.
So Jake raped Jess at that party? If first time of MC is with Bailey, it seems like he's confident and will use his powers on Jess.
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ngl, the latest update isn't enough to sate the hunger, but we get it here for free so I can't complain, so keep on cookin, and if you feel you need more, then cook some more, if you think you need more, cook even more.
This is completely shifting the goalposts to another conversation altogether and has nothing to do with what I said. If you want to refute my argument, actually keep to the argument. This is, far as I'm concerned, some ridiculous strawman about ethics.
Ambition = desire and determination to achieve success.
Notice how it doesn't say Desire to stab the competition to death so you can be successful by default ? You don't go around cutting the throat of anyone who has a better phone than you just so you can have their phone ?
Also Committing a Crime against a Criminal is STILL committing a crime... the Law will not congratulate you for going to the house of a murderer and stealing all his shit.
In-fact if you are a criminal and you gain the trust of another criminal only to betray them and take over all the crime in the area... that just makes you a Bigger offender !
WORDS Have specific meanings ... you can't just call an "Orange" a "hat" just because it suits your purposes.
My argument was about whether Klaus did anything wrong against Alice. I've yet to see a counterargument to my point, if that was your intention here.