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Lochans ability seems to be weird as he can seemingly go into different time periods and thats how he also beats MC in one dead end. However we don't know at what costs he does said time leap.
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Not really, after Nyx killed Ella, Malik himself stated that "if Nyx got you, you are got", implying Nyx's instant death ability is basically absolute and cannot be negated by simple power level difference even for the trio. However, from what Nyx said when she used it, it looks like the ability while powerful, has limited accuracy(and likely limited range), so the trio should be able to easily evade it/blitz her before she uses the ability(remember Bern is literally faster than a monster that can teleport) or engage in range combat to avoid the attack, so they will still stomp her in a fight. But if they just stand there and face-tank it? They likely won't survive.
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Lexi was level 5 when Jake did that. She and Clark evolved using the serum in the fight against Ella. So even more impressive.
I recall Ella saying that his power is not supposed to be only able to affect living things and it turns out that way only because of Jake's mentality. So his power should be able to affect objects even at lv1 if the host is not such a pussy.
Well, "one of the most gifted soldiers of his generation" wasn't even enough to describe someone like Micheal from what we've seen, and he got plenty of similar or higher praise from the narrative. But given Met(who is basically as skilled as Michael) has such high regard for Oscar, they should all be comparable in skills and were likely some of the most renowned fighters when they were human.
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From Oscar profile looks like the peak of human skill would be above 70, maybe between 70-100? I believe Michael would be even higher than human Oscar.
TBF MC and Deryl would still lose even if they made all the optimal choices in the fight if Amberliz didn't save their asses. And while they were not at their peak conditions they were by no means at the limit of their power, more like 60%-70% of their full power. Cole is still a dumbass tho, Deyrl AND MC roasting the loser when he reminiscing Ella is peak comedy.
Remember everything that happens in canon is part of Deus's plan.
Well, that would depend on the definition of got. What does her getting you mean? Simply hitting you? or properly activating her ability on you? Or just that if you are killed by her, it's definitive?
It's just a bit too vague to definitively say, especially since the only other showings of her ability (that I can remember) besides her killing Ella her power has are the revival mark, and draining Tiffany and Michael's power at their evolution.
That gives the impression that her ability is at least slightly dependent on affecting her opponent's monster power, specifically draining it, and it'd be weird to assume she can just drain an infinite amount of power instantly, regardless of her opponent.
And regarding the definition of what her getting someone means, personally I'd say the most likely one is her properly activating her ability on someone, meaning it drains all their energy.
The reason I say that is that it's a pretty sure-fire way to definitively kill someone. Compared to, say, Malik, who can reduce you to atoms, Nyx's killing method is more conclusive, because while there may be some powers (like Ella's) that allow someone to either resist or survive being reduced to atoms or having your organs painted onto the ground or whatever else, simply draining someone of all their monster power, which is connected to a superhuman's life iirc, ensures that they won't survive.
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He should be able to command objects after MC helps him during Authority's puppet dream, he did command the strings to release the MC iirc. I see that as a foreshadow similar to Alice's desire to find a wormhole during her dream.
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Current Michael is superior for sure, but Human Michael was probably around the same skill level. Oscar did kill the monster that attacked him and it probably took him by surprise.
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yeah, deus has and does his own thing. I think Deus' future sight is written a lot like Dr Manhattan's. future sight doesn't give you freedom, you're just a puppet that can see the strings.
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The person who can see the future is Deus, and it's heavily implied that he's intentionally not telling HERO certain things (like the fact that Del would leak MC's identity to the press) for his own reasons. It's safe to assume he wanted Liz, Amber, MC, and Deryl to be captured.
Yeah, Deus almost certainly has his own agenda that may or may not be in HERO's best interests.
You have to consider that the monster Michael killed was a lot stronger. Oscar killed the traffic light monster, which is not exactly the strongest of monsters, while Michael killed the lightning monster, which is a lot more impressive, and Michael survived, unlike Oscar (though tbf he had a lot of prep time, so there's that).
The point is that not only does the monster Oscar killed not have the greatest ability nor power reserves, but he was also able to kill it without any prepping, which even further moves down the monster's strength. It was killed by an unprepared, albeit extraordinary regular human, who probably had no proper weapons, and Oscar died in the end.
Saying the Wepwawet doesn't have the greatest ability majorly undersells it. A Wepawet's version of Red Light may not be as versatile as monsterified Oscar's was, but it's even more dangerous since it doesn't have a cooldown or a way to bypass its effects. If a Wepwawet's Red Light shines on you, you're slowed so bad not even a Level 2's superstrength is enough to help you fight back.
If we're talking a comparison of skill between human Michael and human Oscar, the fact that Oscar actually was capable of doing anything despite not being basically a super soldier with access to eldritch alien steroids like the former says everything.
That is so ridiculous though that it can't be a feat for Oscar. There is simply no way he could beat something that could beat a level 2 as a regular human without preparation, so the Wepwapet simply can't be that strong normally. And I'm not sure being on steroids helped Michael that much in his fight against the lightning monster, since he didn't get physical with it.
Anyone got the stat sheets for the Wepwapet and the lightning monster? Comparing their stats would make this much easier to conclude. If I remember correctly the lightning monster is like C class and Wepwapet is E or D class.
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Is Lisa gonna have a romance route or something shes one of my fav characters (I Also heard someone suggest the idea of her being a yandere which sounds so good)
The Wepwawet never got a monster report, but you are right in that it'd probably be a D rank monster, maybe D+ since it's explicitly stated to not be that powerful by a Level 2 MC, just in possession of an extremely dangerous power with a massive range that can kick in before you even see it. Dangerous enough that if you try and kill one with a mantis punch, the Level 2 MC can get slapped across a cavern, accelerated faster than a bullet into a wall and be near helpless whilst having his mangled body eaten alive faster than it can regenerate under the light's effects. It legitimately almost did him like Valravn did in Dead End 24, turned into a renewable food source.
There are some key differences between monsterified Oscar's Red Light and a Wepwawet's Red Light. Oscar's brought its target to a complete stop, but had a cooldown and could be broken out of with raw strength. On the other hand, a Wepwawet's version has no cooldown, but slows things to a crawl instead of actually stopping them and actually takes some time to kick in, though it offsets this with a large range and getting more effective the longer a target's in the light. That difference is actually what makes it killable, because at close range it actually can't stop attacks going at supersonic speeds. Oscar's an ex-soldier, and gun laws in Sector 1 are so lax the only thing off-limits to civilians is explosives. It certainly wouldn't have been easy for Oscar, considering that it's still a car-sized monster with light-based powers and inhuman strength, but at his reported skill level, smart use of the environment and Wepwawets being glass cannons make it actually be possible. Oscar took it out ironically the same way he ended up getting taken out, going for the eyes.
Also, the formula A-8163 absolutely helped Michael during that fight against the Leigong, he almost got disembowelled mid-fight. In fact, he got himself killed fighting a monster just like Oscar, because he injected himself with so much magical trenbolone his ass was about to die 15 minutes after the fight because his body couldn't handle literally mutating beyond all human boundaries. For all intents and purposes, he had to pop so much drugs he was operating at the level of a low level superhuman to win.
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I dont get the issue here? This fight was basically a Dark Souls moment. Michael had prepared and tailored equipment specifically for this fight and planned thoroughly on how to beat Oscar. Oscar on the other hand was the sluggish boss who hits hard and has certain moves to throw the player off guard.
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