- Jun 2, 2018
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Agree. my favorite VN has no choice at all (Umineko). I also hate sandbox VN, it's just a waste of time walking on a jpeg map.
From what we saw in that scene with Malik, i bet it's already born
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- Apr 18, 2020
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Having too many choices in a vn is a very ambitious project for a single dev.
It's a too of work and can quickly spiral out of control with numerous branching paths.
Additionally, it would divide the fanbase too much over which branch of choices the dev should prioritize.
Plus, WW is planning to create sequels from SH, and if there if there are too many variations, it would be a pain in the ass to work with and manage in the long run.
Take Mass Effect 3 as an example. The three endings essentially crippled the potential for direct sequels, which is why the studio shifted their focus to creating Andromeda.
As you can see, it’s an enormous challenge for a single dev, let alone a AAA gaming studio.
- Mar 28, 2021
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well they just went ahead and picked a canon ending for ME3 anyway now that the sequel is announced, so it's not actually that hard.
- Apr 18, 2020
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Well, WW would have to do the same thing, and in doing so, he risks alienating part of his fanbase who preferred other endings, potentially even losing them.
- May 10, 2017
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People who complain about choice often have completely unrealistic expectations as if they expect the writer to have what are essentially 4 different stories on the go, even BG3 a big budget choice game made in the 10's of millions with a large team, can only deviate so much and the biggest change for choice can only really be shown at the end.
Laurie, a minor character can potentially die, this means that character can never be meaningful to the plot, the major story beats need to proceed as if she died, look at Jake, major character in the early game and after can only show up in side scenes. Expecting us to be able to remove the Poster Child of the game Ella, any time before the end, retarded expectations.
- Mar 28, 2021
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I'm not saying he should do this or that, up to him, couldn't care less. I mostly trust his process, been enjoying the game so far. Just that there are options how to handle it. If he makes the game more "kinetic", people bitch. If he makes it more branching then in the sequel makes a canon choice himself people bitch. Not everyone can be satisfied.
- Jul 13, 2018
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I mean, I did warn you that your choices don't matter when it came to Ella. You have to be a prisoner to her plot. I would even say that you should prepare yourself for MC to mindlessly go along with Ella's plan and make her dream come true. Not like he has an end goal for himself anyway.
No matter what WW chooses, he is always going alienate players. That said, It's fair criticism to the game. I don't know why people have a problem with other people being disappointed that options don't do anything meaningful. They shouldn't be in the game if they don't do anything.
This isn't a kinetic novel. If you put choices in the game, then you set the expectation that they will do something. Saying that people shouldn't expect them to do anything doesn't alleviate the issue at all. Those choices still exist in the game. They don't just disappear because people want to say the game is actually linear.
- May 10, 2017
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The MC does think to himself, with how often Ella fucks with him, he is hoping for the chance to mess up her plans at some point and I would like to hope it doesn't need to be a "fuck you Ella" moment, but instead, "turnabouts fair, suck it up"
- Jul 13, 2018
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I doubt it will happen. MC knows he's important for her plan, but he's not going to leverage it. That's just how the game is. They're bound by a fate called WW. I could even see MC refusing to do it being a dead end at the end lol.
We still don't know what actually is the plan. And, given that even Aglaeswif supposedly don't know about that ritual (and she is one of the oldest characters there, so there is little she doesn't know) and Ella with her 8-10 years of superhuman experience somehow know it, I wonder if it is really Ella's plan all along. Maybe the real mastermind is something else and it just using Ella as a blind tool, which would be very ironic.
That said, I'm more interested about Deus involvement. It seems that his dream was about future Earth, where things clearly gone poorly for the humans, so either Ella's plan failed or didn't bring results she expected. And he did warn MC about not trusting her much (as did the judge from 9's path), so following her blindly would certainly backfire. I'm pretty sure that whatever Ella's cooking will fail spectacularly one way or another and MC with friends will be cleaning her mess like always, just on different scale.
- Oct 11, 2023
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No its not, its simply bad writing. Why do you even give the "choice" to hate an a character when it leads to nothing? Atleast have the MC become some cuck simp for Ella from the start so he has an incentive to be a dog for her.
- Oct 11, 2023
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Ok guys after playing through the game while reading carefully i got a few things to say.
1. Fuck Ella, worst character, we need a choice to kill her asap
2. Every person who gets chosen by the first apostle seems mentally unfit for its power. Maybe if Jake acted like he did when he got his 2nd evolution and locked in during the sector capture but cmon the 1st apostle choosing Supreme Cuck Alistair later???? Wtf.
3. Why do i need to fuck Christie? I literally DO NOT WANT TO LOOSE MY VIRGINITY TO HER.
1. Fuck Ella, worst character, we need a choice to kill her asap
2. Every person who gets chosen by the first apostle seems mentally unfit for its power. Maybe if Jake acted like he did when he got his 2nd evolution and locked in during the sector capture but cmon the 1st apostle choosing Supreme Cuck Alistair later???? Wtf.
3. Why do i need to fuck Christie? I literally DO NOT WANT TO LOOSE MY VIRGINITY TO HER.
- Oct 11, 2023
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And this is an important note, with us soon completing the monster world arc and approaching the final blue moon arc we can perhaps assume the game will be finished within 2 years. How do you guys think it will play out? Will it end with us choosing which apostle gets resurrected to dominate? Will it be Henri accepting and fully understanding his powers to fight against a monster resurrected apostle? How do you guys think it will play out?
- Dec 20, 2020
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To be fair, you losing your v-card to Christie is a skill issue. You can lose it to Liz instead, if you progress through her route before you sneak into the club and get caught by Christie.
- Jul 13, 2018
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Liz is mid though. Being a Bailey fucker is where it's at.
Oh yeah, I'm blind – I didn't even notice there was a compressed option..you're probably right, unless I've been downloading the compressed without realizing.
- Feb 22, 2019
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At the moment all hating Ella does is bar you from her h scenes. Though since the “hate Ella” variable does exist I’m sure there’s gonna be a big choice to go against her. Unfortunately it most likely gonna be near the end of the game
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I think he meant at the dream scene of Danica. Tho I don't really remember the 1st being there.