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shujuku

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We mostly assume that the plan will work thanks to Deus. He is far shadier than Ella and it seems that Ella's plan is only the beginning of his plan, that guy is a complete enigma with all the timeline mystery while apparently not being a spawn of the Fifth.
Lochan seems to be in opposition to Ella due to him obviously siding with HERO. The only times he has been shady with HERO is regarding MC and these cases were opportunities for MC to grow stronger or keep his identity hidden. Which makes sense when we take the ultimate trope of all stories, MC will prevail in the END. Therefore informing HERO about MC early would just fuck up his progression as we know it.

In league terms: Lochan lets his Jinx afk farm bot and intervenes to help Jinx get core items to carry.
 
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RabbidSupreme

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That's not weird at all, the female greek figure of a goddess isn't shredded, the archetypical female superhero isn't shredded. They are idealized humans, men are buff, women are sexier. Muscle women, same as Demi's shorty appearance, are niche in appeal.
Ok but that explanation falls apart when we're outright told that all superhumans bodies only change to handle the powers their given, not sure where your getting this idea of "idealized humans" from. Hell, the earliest section of the game says that MC's body was mutated to a human that has evolved under the harshest circumstances for thousands of years
 
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One_Black_Sun

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Ok but that explanation falls apart when we're outright told that all superhumans bodies only change to handle the powers their given, not sure where your getting this idea of "idealized humans" from. Hell, the earliest section of the game says that MC's body was mutated to a human that has evolved under the harshest circumstances for thousands of years
Well, the wiki itself says that Superhumans gain their "idealized body", which takes into consideration the person's mental state and their own securities and insecurities.

Still, we've never really gotten an MC level of body uplift on any of the women, which is strange when you take into account the law of averages.

Like, I've only seen men transform like that, while the women barely ever change, save for a few - but it's hard to count some of them, because we have no idea what they looked like pre-Superhuman.

Alice didn't change one iota, and neither did Liz or Amber besides an outfit change and some more superficial ones. Like, are their bodies *really* their idealized versions?
 
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obibobi

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Ok but that explanation falls apart when we're outright told that all superhumans bodies only change to handle the powers their given, not sure where your getting this idea of "idealized humans" from. Hell, the earliest section of the game says that MC's body was mutated to a human that has evolved under the harshest circumstances for thousands of years
Health is directly related to how physically attractive someone is, if you have obvious outward signs of being physically health, you are more physically desirable outside of abnormalities like fat fetishists, people use make up to disguise physical imperfections and aging to look more attractive, to look healthier.

But this is all being pedantic, the game is about hot people with powers, attractive people with perfect physiques is an iconic trope and the "evolved to survive the harshest conditions" would look nothing like what a normal human looks like, we are actually very frail for our size and weight, writers don't need to be expert biologists, this is acceptable enough to explain why the characters are stronger and most importantly, hotter when required, look at what happened to Cole, no homo.
 
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jjtom000

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Lochan seems to be in opposition to Ella due to him obviously siding with HERO. The only times he has been shady with HERO is regarding MC and these cases were opportunities for MC to grow stronger or keep his identity hidden. Which makes sense when we take the ultimate trope of all stories, MC will prevail in the END. Therefore informing HERO about MC early would just fuck up his progression as we know it.

In league terms: Lochan lets his Jinx afk farm bot and intervenes to help Jinx get core items to carry.
I don't know where you get the idea of Deus "obviously siding with HERO". Since we literally saw him mocking HERO's name and the idea of the agents calling themsevles HERO, it can't be more obvios that he has no respect or loyalty for HERO and is only there for his own reasons.
 

RabbidSupreme

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Well, the wiki itself says that Superhumans gain their "idealized body", which takes into consideration the person's mental state and their own securities and insecurities.

Still, we've never really gotten an MC level of body uplift on any of the women, which is strange when you take into account the law of averages.

Like, I've only seen men transform like that, while the women barely ever change, save for a few - but it's hard to count some of them, because we have no idea what they looked like pre-Superhuman.

Alice didn't change one iota, and neither did Liz or Amber besides an outfit change and some more superficial ones. Like, are their bodies *really* their idealized versions?
I wouldn't recommend the wiki because there's a good amount of head cannon in there, iirc the only reference to this whole idealized body thing was a speculative comment from MC about why Alice and Michael still look the same
 

devilsdetails

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I wouldn't recommend the wiki because there's a good amount of head cannon in there, iirc the only reference to this whole idealized body thing was a speculative comment from MC about why Alice and Michael still look the same
Actually during the SIN infiltration one of the SIN soldiers does comment that all the men do get buff and hot but complains that women tend to mostly get bigger tits and not the muscles. Tiffany also comments that her evolution made her tits get bigger and the MC speculates that its because she wanted them subconsciously. Other examples include Rina getting a lot younger but Nathan staying similar to his normal appearance. Met also doesn't change much and he had the same drugs Michael and Alice got. All of this points to superhumans getting to kinda getting some say over how they look. I suppose whether is unconscious or them actively picking is up for debate.

Side Note: afaik most of the wiki writers are in the forum so if you think there's something wrong or needs cites just drop it here. They're pretty responsive
 
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devilsdetails

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Actually during the SIN infiltration one of the SIN soldiers does comment that all the men do get buff and hot but complains that women tend to mostly get bigger tits and not the muscles. Tiffany also comments that her evolution made her tits get bigger and the MC speculates that its because she wanted them subconsciously. Other examples include Rina getting a lot younger but Nathan staying similar to his normal appearance. Met also doesn't change much and he had the same drugs Michael and Alice got. All of this points to superhumans getting to kinda getting some say over how they look. I suppose whether is unconscious or them actively picking is up for debate.

Side Note: afaik most of the wiki writers are in the forum so if you think there's something wrong or needs cites just drop it here. They're pretty responsive
That's not to say I don't agree with the earlier post about "idealized" in a Grecian statue secondary sexual characteristics sense rather than internal human sense. It's pretty obvious that guys "in general" get jacked and women "in general" get hot and that applies to monsters too since coded male monsters are buff but coded women monsters get the exaggerated sexual characteristics. But there is clear variability
 
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Dark T-Rex

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Is it just me or does the Mc's liquid form look a little like the black ocean in the monster world? Do you think that has anything to do with Syla consuming 'bad things' and lowering her purity?
Hmm...it's possible. At the very least we know that the black water of the Monster World is alive as it actively avoided coming into contact with Amber.

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Though we still don’t know what that water really is, only that it’s incredibly dangerous and most monsters and even Ella are terrified of it.

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The closest comparison I can think of is dark water from that old 90’s cartoon, “The Pirates of Dark Water.”

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JicioJ

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Where's preview 8 from? Finished up to current patch and I don't remember seeing that. Is it from a bad end?
yup, in the battle of diamonds, you have to let the eye be born and be above a certain corruption, he also appears against cole id you have power and choose correctly. The walkthrough pdf will tell you how.
 
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