VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[devilsdetails]

It's pretty obvious they hate each others guts. And with the fact that Ella never explains clearly why she wants the MC to grow stronger, it's pretty much a given that she doesn't share information. And with HERO wanting her, not captured, not recruited, but straight up gone... I doubt t hey have any idea of what she seems to know Otherwise they'd try to find a way to use her rather than take away one of the possible lines of defense against whatever seems to be coming.

You are right. What I was getting at was that we are not sure whether Ella and HERO even agree on what the "BIG PICTURE" threat is. They might be working towards completely different ends. Like maybe Ella wants monster apocalypse but on superhuman terms but HERO because they exterminate monsters are unsure about whether monster apocalypse is even on the horizon [Just as an example not saying thats what the story is]

I suspect the world conquering super soldiers are the numbered monster parents, either they were used like attack dogs and then rounded up but one day escaped, or possibly were superhumans originally but have since monsterfied.

Seems unlikely. The news snippets say they still have the super soldiers. They were used to put down a rebellion in one of the sectors. Whoever the super solider was, they used earthquakes to flatten the rebels. Seems like they are completely in control superhumans.

 

[Rutonat]

You are right. What I was getting at was that we are not sure whether Ella and HERO even agree on what the "BIG PICTURE" threat is. They might be working towards completely different ends. Like maybe Ella wants monster apocalypse but on superhuman terms but HERO because they exterminate monsters are unsure about whether monster apocalypse is even on the horizon [Just as an example not saying thats what the story is]

Nah Ella doesn't want a monster apocalypse. If she did, she'd just flood the city with her pills. The fact she carefully selects her "pupils" and tries to get the best of them to get stronger indicates something else. There's been hints that monster might be preparing something (as in, Numbered monsters, the top brass of them) that will likely not leave the Earth, and humanity, in great shape.
So far, things seem to point out that she's trying to prepare some sort of... top of the line Earth Defense Force I guess ? Some superhuman with enough strenght to stop whatever is coming, no matter the cost.

Of course, that's just a theory for now. But with the hints we have, that's the most likely so far.
But WeirdWorld has already shown a certain skill for throwing our theories out the window in one singular update...

 

[Dack_Dadgers]

Seems unlikely. The news snippets say they still have the super soldiers. They were used to put down a rebellion in one of the sectors. Whoever the super solider was, they used earthquakes to flatten the rebels. Seems like they are completely in control superhumans.

Maybe. But that could just be current HERO, it's not like the news anchors would know.

 

[Bear1]

Unfortunately, no.
I was looking at data changes in save games if you choose to eat it or let it go.

1) Eat her = +1 corruption, +1 Bailey eaten
2) Let her go = Nothing. The game doesn't consider it a choice with consequences at all.

I find this extremely sad and very unwise from a gameplay perspective.
Bailey could have been an extremely useful sidekick for the main character.
Due to the fact that she could take the form of objects, she would be great for surveillance and information gathering.
And the protagonist's abilities are already at a level where he should definitely be able to make her body a little more stable.

Like I said, very sad.
I also liked her very much and I hoped she would get more space in the game.

You do realize that just because it has no consequences now, doesn't mean it can't later, right? Having the game track whether she was eaten or not with a variable saying +1 to "Bailey Eaten" is in fact, the game code allowing for future content, because you can always program new content that checks for this condition.

It's really simple programming stuff. And even if it doesnt, adding a variable to track that is piss easy and can be done any time.

 

[empty sides]

I wonder if we have to option to not join HERO after the arrest

 

[Edvin]

You do realize that just because it has no consequences now, doesn't mean it can't later, right? Having the game track whether she was eaten or not with a variable saying +1 to "Bailey Eaten" is in fact, the game code allowing for future content, because you can always program new content that checks for this condition.

It's really simple programming stuff. And even if it doesnt, adding a variable to track that is piss easy and can be done any time.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple

As far as the game code goes, it makes no difference if you let Bailey go or if you never started/never finished her storyline.
That is why it is practically certain that Weirdworld has no plans to return to her.
It looks like "Bailey Eaten" only serves for tracking of acquired corruption.

 

[Bear1]

Unfortunately, it's not that simple

As far as the game code goes, it makes no difference if you let Bailey go or if you never started/never finished her storyline.
That is why it is practically certain that Weirdworld has no plans to return to her.
It looks like "Bailey Eaten" only serves for tracking of acquired corruption.

Well, maybe if we ask nicely the dev will add more Bailey content


Unrelated, but I am wondering

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[Edvin]

Well, maybe if we ask nicely the dev will add more Bailey content

I think at this moment the chance of something like that is close to zero.
Don't get me wrong, Bailey was my favorite girl and I wanted nothing more than to have her as a sidekick.
Batman and Robin! (Somewhat weird, half-naked and nymphomatic Robin.)

But given the above, I think Weirdworld has already covered that road.


WeirdWorld
I know you don't usually discuss things like this, but could you please make an exception for once and either confirm or deny that Bailey's story is definitely over? Even saying that you haven't decided yet would be enough.

 

[WeirdWorld]

Unfortunately, it's not that simple

As far as the game code goes, it makes no difference if you let Bailey go or if you never started/never finished her storyline.
That is why it is practically certain that Weirdworld has no plans to return to her.
It looks like "Bailey Eaten" only serves for tracking of acquired corruption.

There's a separate flag for every time you visit bailey, so I can track if the storyline was never started, never finished, or even where specifically in the storyline you've progressed to.

Bailey Eaten is a simple yes or no variable. If it's true she's eaten, if it's false she's not eaten, either can be tracked. The default is false.

I think at this moment the chance of something like that is close to zero.
Don't get me wrong, Bailey was my favorite girl and I wanted nothing more than to have her as a sidekick.
Batman and Robin! (Somewhat weird, half-naked and nymphomatic Robin.)

But given the above, I think Weirdworld has already covered that road.


WeirdWorld
I know you don't usually discuss things like this, but could you please make an exception for once and either confirm or deny that Bailey's story is definitely over? Even saying that you haven't decided yet would be enough.

I'll give a vague answer, but understand that I generally keep my nose out of these discussions because I don't want people to think I'm making some sort of promise, and because in general, it's not my place to comment about the story as the author. Now with all that said, nothing is definitive, if I wanted to I could easily do content with the variables set in Bailey's code, it's just a matter of me choosing to spend the time. And yes I have decided, I've had the whole storyline for superhuman written for some time now, but everyone will just have to wait and see like with everything else in the game.

 

[newgrounds]

this game was a 10/10-I ate the content up

 

[Edvin]

Now with all that said, nothing is definitive, if I wanted to I could easily do content with the variables set in Bailey's code, it's just a matter of me choosing to spend the time. And yes I have decided, I've had the whole storyline for superhuman written for some time now, but everyone will just have to wait and see like with everything else in the game.

That is a perfectly sufficient and satisfactory answer.
Thank you very much.

 

[devilsdetails]

Well, maybe if we ask nicely the dev will add more Bailey content


Unrelated, but I am wondering

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So far the variables just count up or down. No effect on the story yet. But its easy to imagine where weird might inject it

 

[Rutonat]

Unfortunately, it's not that simple

As far as the game code goes, it makes no difference if you let Bailey go or if you never started/never finished her storyline.
That is why it is practically certain that Weirdworld has no plans to return to her.
It looks like "Bailey Eaten" only serves for tracking of acquired corruption.

I'll stop you right there. I've chosen to absorb Bailey, to her request, and I'm still at a pristine 0 Corruption. Just saying.
Edit : Nevermind, you are actually right. I could swear I had checked my stat after doing that part and I remember still being at 0... Ho well.

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It is supposed to reflect how they think of the MC's hero persona, as you know. That's all we know so far, though. It doesn't seem to have had much of an impact. Or at least, I haven't noticed any spot where it could have.
Though, now that the MC's identity has been blown, it's likely those variables are going to start getting into play, I think. There are no reason for WeirdWorld to have spent time making those, and having them display, just for them to do nothing at all, after all.

I'll finish with two little things.

First off, I'd simply like to give a friendly warning to some people : do not confuse theorizing with wishfull thinking. There have been some people slinging "theories" that have no basis to stand on, or even go against other hints and details shown in the game so far. I completely understand what it is to want something, but please, if you wanna join in on bouncing theories off each other, you are most welcome to, just please keep in mind that it's just not throwing any idea around. It has to be based on hint or proof.
I'm not gonna name anyone because I don't want people to feel called out publicly, but I'm just saying it to make sure you don't end up sorely dissapointed because you hyped yourself on something that is pretty clearly very highly unlikely to happen.

Second... I wonder if WeirdWorld reads those theory talks we have...
I have no idea how to tag people, but I'm kinda curious if they read them and, if so, how they feel about it. Are they amused or thrilled to see us try to piece things together ? Do they get excited when we get anywhere close to the truth ? Or deeply amused when we go on a wild goose chase on basically the opposite direction ?
At the very least it must feel really good to see fans like their work enough to try to read into the hints, right ?

 

[masonwile]

I'll stop you right there. I've chosen to absorb Bailey, to her request, and I'm still at a pristine 0 Corruption. Just saying.

Could you confirm this? Code shows eating Bailey, even at her request, should increment Corrupt by 1.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple

As far as the game code goes, it makes no difference if you let Bailey go or if you never started/never finished her storyline.
That is why it is practically certain that Weirdworld has no plans to return to her.
It looks like "Bailey Eaten" only serves for tracking of acquired corruption.

Eating Bailey is tracked. Her storyline is tracked. Whether WW will do anything with that is another matter, but your assertion is false. Jess' storyline, for example, has a couple of unused flags that will likely come into play in the upcoming epilogues.

 

[Rutonat]

Could you confirm this? Code shows eating Bailey, even at her request, should increment Corrupt by 1.

Well I had checked my stats during other routes I finished later on, and it was still at 0.
I'll check in game and edit in a few minutes.

Edit : Huh... Actually I have 1 Corruption now. Weird... I could swear I was at 0 when I checked the stats after doing that part...
Well, there goes my pristine No Corruption run, I guess.
It's alright, Bailey's worth the sacrifice.

 

[Dominosaur]

some choices have an immediate effect, but some wait until after the thing actually happens. It might be when you clicked consume, the game waited for the textbox where she is actually consumed, before incrementing corruption.

There's no reason, codewise, that every choice has to impact your stats immediately after choosing it. "delayed" triggers are comparatively trivial to implement

 

[Rutonat]

some choices have an immediate effect, but some wait until after the thing actually happens. It might be when you clicked consume, the game waited for the textbox where she is actually consumed, before incrementing corruption.

There's no reason, codewise, that every choice has to impact your stats immediately after choosing it. "delayed" triggers are comparatively trivial to implement

When I say I checked it later, I don't mean "right when I clicked on the chocie"... That's not "later" dude...

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Second... I wonder if WeirdWorld reads those theory talks we have...
I have no idea how to tag people, but I'm kinda curious if they read them and, if so, how they feel about it. Are they amused or thrilled to see us try to piece things together ? Do they get excited when we get anywhere close to the truth ? Or deeply amused when we go on a wild goose chase on basically the opposite direction ?
At the very least it must feel really good to see fans like their work enough to try to read into the hints, right ?

If he does, he's probably losing it at some these replies . Some of these theories be all over the place, especially mine. We probably went so far away from truth going like this that even the dev is probably questioning what he wrote in the game at times.

 

[Bear1]

regarding the ending to the latest update

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[mcmng]

Rutonat if you have js enabled for this site just write @ + the username you want to tag and a small box will pop up prompting you who you want to tag.

If he does, he's probably losing it at some these replies . Some of these theories be all over the place, especially mine. We probably went so far away from truth going like this that even the dev is probably questioning what he wrote in the game at times.

WeirdWorld right now: