VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[DrakoGhoul]

yeah these are some good points, but throughout the game, Mc suggests that because of her power and the way she uses it(gravity bomb and other things), she can potentially one shot him. and that's level 1

yeah me too. but damn other monsters are baddass. I mean we have one of the most versatile abilities in game but others like Leigong and fairy have sheer destruction on their side.

Yeah but the MC overlooked the fact that she has to charge that stuff up. It may heavily damage him if he stood still but with his speed, superior strength, and high stamina, she won't last long. I'm only referring to her current state. If she reaches Evolution lvl 2, she can beat the MC, unless he went all out and doesn't care if she dies.

Also I agree. The other monster abilities are great. The dev did good with giving variety. I still prefer the MC having his own thing though(minus Ella). That said, they also gave our MC so many weaknesses. First it was lightning and now it's fire, acid and other things with corrosive/prolonged effects. I'm glad it's not a power fantasy but man the MC would get his ass kicked against some of this, especially if a superhuman has it as their power. Legit, we dodged Michael getting Lightning but Radiation might be even worse for us.

 

[Rutonat]

No problem. Also, as it is currently, the MC is still vastly stronger than Michael and Alice. When they reach Evolution lvl 2 they'll be on par or maybe even more stronger than the MC. Michael especially, since he'll potentially be a greater spawn like the MC but only if he unlocks his Radiation ability and accepts the 2nd Numbered.

The main thing Micheal will have over the MC is that he's been trained to fight since very young. The MC has no formal training other than the school's lessons and Micheal's. Just that means he could be a problem for the MC even at the current level.
Not saying he's superior, but I doubt the MC would wipe the floor with him if Micheal had the nature of his power figured out.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Which of the 2 parents the MC can have is the 3rd (Body) and 4th (Memory)? I am not relating their names to their appearances.

Black/Blue is the 3rd
Brown/Pink is the 4th

 

[Rutonat]

Which of the 2 parents the MC can have is the 3rd (Body) and 4th (Memory)? I am not relating their names to their appearances.

The 4th is Mommy, aka Tits Monster. The 3rd, Daddy, is the other one.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

The main thing Micheal will have over the MC is that he's been trained to fight since very young. The MC has no formal training other than the school's lessons and Micheal's. Just that means he could be a problem for the MC even at the current level.
Not saying he's superior, but I doubt the MC would wipe the floor with him if Micheal had the nature of his power figured out.

At lvl 1? Michael already admitted the MC was still stronger than him. At lvl 2 though, that's the exact reason why he'll beat the MC. The stat gap is closed completely and he wouldn't need to prep or anything.

Michael's Radiation ability is actually a horrible match for the MC. Depending on how it's used, I don't think the MC would ever be able to beat him again. At least while the MC is lvl 2 and/or at the same evolution lvl.

 

[Allan Trumbull]

At lvl 1? Michael already admitted the MC was still stronger than him. At lvl 2 though, that's the exact reason why he'll beat the MC. The stat gap is closed completely and he wouldn't need to prep or anything.

Michael's Radiation ability is actually a horrible match for the MC. Depending on how it's used, I don't think the MC would ever be able to beat him again. At least while the MC is lvl 2 and/or at the same evolution lvl.

These blue thing gonns kill him slowly

 

[Rutonat]

At lvl 1? Michael already admitted the MC was still stronger than him. At lvl 2 though, that's the exact reason why he'll beat the MC. The stat gap is closed completely and he wouldn't need to prep or anything.

Michael's Radiation ability is actually a horrible match for the MC. Depending on how it's used, I don't think the MC would ever be able to beat him again. At least while the MC is lvl 2 and/or at the same evolution lvl.

Did you notice how Micheal managed to hold up to a monster as a human ? Sure, he admitted his preparations were most of the reason, but still. At the end of the fight, he had no cards left. He basically went "fuck it" mode. Any other human would have gotten trashed at that point.
The fact is, Micheal was already more than a simple human just from his past alone.

So yeah, I think that, if Michael was to find out what his power is, he could be a better opponent to the MC than the average Level 1. Because he has a whole life of fighting, training and experience behind him, while the MC started from nothing. And on those points, Michael is still far above the MC.

I'm not saying Michael would win, again, I'm saying he'd be a far stronger opponent than any other Level 1 Superhuman we've seen so far. Hell, or even any of the ones we've seen above Level 1, when they were Level 1.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Did you notice how Micheal managed to hold up to a monster as a human ? Sure, he admitted his preparations were most of the reason, but still. At the end of the fight, he had no cards left. He basically went "fuck it" mode. Any other human would have gotten trashed at that point.
The fact is, Micheal was already more than a simple human just from his past alone.

So yeah, I think that, if Michael was to find out what his power is, he could be a better opponent to the MC than the average Level 1. Because he has a whole life of fighting, training and experience behind him, while the MC started from nothing. And on those points, Michael is still far above the MC.

I'm not saying Michael would win, again, I'm saying he'd be a far stronger opponent than any other Level 1 Superhuman we've seen so far. Hell, or even any of the ones we've seen above Level 1, when they were Level 1.

That doesn't change the fact that he prepped and slowly trimmed down that lightning monster over a vast amount of time. Michael absolutely would have lost if he didn't prep and if he didn't use those syringes towards the end he actually would've died. His "fuck it mode" was backed by a drug that he took for years. He was never a normal human so that's a poor argument from you. If he fights the MC right now he would also lose.

In my eyes, the MC is still stronger than him in a straight up fight and I don't think he'll stand a chance at all with his current status. Can he prep to beat the MC while at lvl 1? Sure, Deryl did it so I don't see why not. When he gets his radiation the odds would also increase. Other than that, you'll get nothing but disagreement from me.

 

[Rutonat]

In my eyes, the MC is still stronger than him in a straight up fight and I don't think he'll stand a chance at all with his current status. Can he prep to beat the MC while at lvl 1? Sure, Deryl did it so I don't see why not. When he gets his radiation the odds would also increase. Other than that, you'll get nothing but disagreement from me.

Again, Drako, I didn't deny the MC was stronger. Please, just pay attention. Hell I didn't even deny that in the end the MC would win. What I'm trying to make you notice is that I'm fairly sure, out of any possible Level 1 Superhuman, even in a fair match, say in an arena duel scenario, Michael would be by far the strongest match for the MC. As in, "the one he'd have the hardest time defeating", by comparaison with the other Level 1s.

I don't get why you seem to think I'm putting Level 1 Michael and Level 2 MC on the same powerlevel... I've literally not said so...

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Again, Drako, I didn't deny the MC was stronger. Please, just pay attention. Hell I didn't even deny that in the end the MC would win. What I'm trying to make you notice is that I'm fairly sure, out of any possible Level 1 Superhuman, even in a fair match, say in an arena duel scenario, Michael would be by far the strongest match for the MC. As in, "the one he'd have the hardest time defeating", by comparaison with the other Level 1s.

I don't get why you seem to think I'm putting Level 1 Michael and Level 2 MC on the same powerlevel... I've literally not said so...

Once again.... I disagree. Alice would be a stronger match among the lvl 1s he'd fight.

 

[Rutonat]

Once again.... I disagree. Alice would be a stronger match among the lvl 1s he'd fight.

Alice figured out her powers very easily though. WW is building the suspens with Michael but all hints point that he's likely gonna get lightning powers (after all the big guy disintegrated the lightning monster before "blessing" Michael). And lightning is the #1 weakness for the MC. Either touching him or being at range will do nothing.
For Alice, the MC knows touching her would be dangerous thanks to her hands gravity orbs, but he can fight her at range, either with tentacles he can detach or projectiles. And Alice's attacks don't run the risk of half his body blowing up.

And since I suppose you'll bring it up, yes Michael could get radiation powers, but not only we don't have any idea how the MC's body would react to that, but it seems strange, sotrytelling-wise, to emphasize the deletion of t he lightning monster's body before Michael getting his granted... It smells way too much of an hint...

 

[Carefree247]

Yeah but the MC overlooked the fact that she has to charge that stuff up. It may heavily damage him if he stood still but with his speed, superior strength, and high stamina, she won't last long. I'm only referring to her current state. If she reaches Evolution lvl 2, she can beat the MC, unless he went all out and doesn't care if she dies.

Also I agree. The other monster abilities are great. The dev did good with giving variety. I still prefer the MC having his own thing though(minus Ella). That said, they also gave our MC so many weaknesses. First it was lightning and now it's fire, acid and other things with corrosive/prolonged effects. I'm glad it's not a power fantasy but man the MC would get his ass kicked against some of this, especially if a superhuman has it as their power. Legit, we dodged Michael getting Lightning but Radiation might be even worse for us.

I noticed that every Superhuman has weakness to their unbalanced build same for the monster if this update has anything to foreshadow, but damn the numbered are the elites of them if Micheal could take that one down easily and Ella did say at lvl 5 the laws of reality are merely guidelines as ella killed a Lvl 3 easily with mere presence of her shifting ability, she must have accumulated lots of power for that to be easy


DrakoGhoul

You still haven't answered the remaining 2 question of what you asked of Tiffanys and did you take the horn or eye ?
So I'll use this chance to ask Rutonat as well of the above question

While Micheal trained to kill humans, Superhumans are a another deal and since MC has more experience and knowledge on his power as well as his mindset I'd see Micheal catching up quickly but MC's is a wild card in any team since he can fit several roles while Alice and Micheal are fixed to their builds and roles. I like how Alice displayed this by adapting her style to incorporate her new powers same for MC and now it's Micheals turn.

Have we made sub divisions on power types ?
Bio/physical type(MC, Ella,Deryl and iron sword punk), Mentalist(Jake, Demi,The tracking Supe and Deuce) and finally power types(Alice,klaus and gang, Wanabe saiyan/Picachu) are the one's I've identified so far

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Alice figured out her powers very easily though. WW is building the suspens with Michael but all hints point that he's likely gonna get lightning powers (after all the big guy disintegrated the lightning monster before "blessing" Michael). And lightning is the #1 weakness for the MC. Either touching him or being at range will do nothing.
For Alice, the MC knows touching her would be dangerous thanks to her hands gravity orbs, but he can fight her at range, either with tentacles he can detach or projectiles. And Alice's attacks don't run the risk of half his body blowing up.

And since I suppose you'll bring it up, yes Michael could get radiation powers, but not only we don't have any idea how the MC's body would react to that, but it seems strange, sotrytelling-wise, to emphasize the deletion of t he lightning monster's body before Michael getting his granted... It smells way too much of an hint...

Eh, no? Michael's Monster Parent is the 2nd that vaporized the Lightning Monster. He's most likely not getting lightning at all. Michael getting irradiated by the 2nd was part of his transformation. It's highly likely he's getting radiation powers as that seems to be the 2nd's main power.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I noticed that every Superhuman has weakness to their unbalanced build same for the monster if this update has anything to foreshadow, but damn the numbered are the elites of them if Micheal could take that one down easily and Ella did say at lvl 5 the laws of reality are merely guidelines as ella killed a Lvl 3 easily with mere presence of her shifting ability, she must have accumulated lots of power for that to be easy


DrakoGhoul

You still haven't answered the remaining 2 question of what you asked of Tiffanys and did you take the horn or eye ?
So I'll use this chance to ask Rutonat as well of the above question

While Micheal trained to kill humans, Superhumans are a another deal and since MC has more experience and knowledge on his power as well as his mindset I'd see Micheal catching up quickly but MC's is a wild card in any team since he can fit several roles while Alice and Micheal are fixed to their builds and roles. I like how Alice displayed this by adapting her style to incorporate her new powers same for MC and now it's Micheals turn.

Have we made sub divisions on power types ?
Bio/physical type(MC, Ella,Deryl and iron sword punk), Mentalist(Jake, Demi,The tracking Supe and Deuce) and finally power types(Alice,klaus and gang, Wanabe saiyan/Picachu) are the one's I've identified so far

? I did answer.

I took the horn on my high corruption and asked Tiffany for more power.

On my main, I took the eye and asked for Claudia's hand in marriage. Or it might've been for power in that one as well.

I haven't got nothing from Tiffany. At least, as far as I've noticed. I'm guessing it'll happen later.

 

[Rutonat]

Have we made sub divisions on power types ?
Bio/physical type(MC, Ella,Deryl and iron sword punk), Mentalist(Jake, Demi,The tracking Supe and Deuce) and finally power types(Alice,klaus and gang, Wanabe saiyan/Picachu) are the one's I've identified so far

Not really, since we aren't clear on what some do.
For example, the MC is a bit of a mess to categorize... I stick with my theory that his "power" is Adaptation, but that's very broad.

Eh, no? Michael's Monster Parent is the 2nd that vaporized the Lightning Monster. He's most likely not getting lightning at all. Michael getting irradiated by the 2nd was part of his transformation. It's highly likely he's getting radiation powers as that seems to be the 2nd's main power.

If the 2nd gave him his power specifically. Hell, we don't even know if that's systematically how it works. Nothing seemed to imply that demi's parent had illusion powers for example. And I don't remember the Fairy showing his powers (altough my memory is admitedly shit).

Also we have huge hints that the MC might have gotten powers from both the 3rd and 4th somehow, if the name has any logic. Just stick with me for a second :
We know the 3rd is the Body and the 4th is the Memory. You mentionned yourself (if memory serves) that the 4th being "the Memory" checks out with the MC's ability to see and search memories of people. ...but then why can he modify his body too if the 4th is his parent ?
Same thing the other way around, chekcs out that the MC can modify his body if his parent is the 3rd, but then why can he also toy with memories ?

Clearly there's more than just "parent gives the same power as his to his spawns" there. So in that logic, why couldn't the 2nd have use the corpse of the defeated lightning monster to reward the human who managed to defeat it and at the same time make Michael his own spawn ? We don't exactly know how power transferance works, nothing says that type of "transplant" is impossible.

And for another point that would make it for an interesting development that Michael would get a lightning based power : the MC.
Either Michael ends up somehow becoming at odds with the MC, or they figure out that's a great opportunity for the MC to train towards overcoming his biggest weakness, one that is literally the easiest way to kill him, therefor leading to a new sub-arc of the MC getting stronger in a different way than just "kill shit and come up with new transformations like you've always been doing".

 

[mrttao]

WeirdWorld , just got to the part where Tiffany confronted the MC. This is beyond any borders of stupidness:

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So you made up a guy who can read minds by touching people and take on their appearance, getting fucked up by random cunt? He can easily get any information about blackmail material, destroy evidence, take the form of a blackmailer, record a suicide speech and throw the corpse of Tiffany from a skyscraper, for example. Or solve the problem in a dozen other ways.

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OMFG, not even leaving a chance, so lame...

It has been a while since I saw it but... how far along was the MC on his mind reading skills by the time this comes up?
His mind reading is a highly limited secondary talent.

That said, this bit should probably be reworked a bit. Probably with an option to kill her which would result in a bad end of being killed by HERO

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Not really, since we aren't clear on what some do.
For example, the MC is a bit of a mess to categorize... I stick with my theory that his "power" is Adaptation, but that's very broad.


If the 2nd gave him his power specifically. Hell, we don't even know if that's systematically how it works. Nothing seemed to imply that demi's parent had illusion powers for example. And I don't remember the Fairy showing his powers (altough my memory is admitedly shit).

Also we have huge hints that the MC might have gotten powers from both the 3rd and 4th somehow, if the name has any logic. Just stick with me for a second :
We know the 3rd is the Body and the 4th is the Memory. You mentionned yourself (if memory serves) that the 4th being "the Memory" checks out with the MC's ability to see and search memories of people. ...but then why can he modify his body too if the 4th is his parent ?
Same thing the other way around, chekcs out that the MC can modify his body if his parent is the 3rd, but then why can he also toy with memories ?

Clearly there's more than just "parent gives the same power as his to his spawns" there. So in that logic, why couldn't the 2nd have use the corpse of the defeated lightning monster to reward the human who managed to defeat it and at the same time make Michael his own spawn ? We don't exactly know how power transferance works, nothing says that type of "transplant" is impossible.

And for another point that would make it for an interesting development that Michael would get a lightning based power : the MC.
Either Michael ends up somehow becoming at odds with the MC, or they figure out that's a great opportunity for the MC to train towards overcoming his biggest weakness, one that is literally the easiest way to kill him, therefor leading to a new sub-arc of the MC getting stronger in a different way than just "kill shit and come up with new transformations like you've always been doing".

I mean, the 4th can shapeshift as well. He just inherited more of her powers. The 2nd Trait stuff could be what he got from the 3rd's "Body" stuff with being able to perfectly copy some beings right down to actually becoming them. Shapeshifting could just be their base power.

Alice's power are the same as the Fairy. He summoned a gravity attack that turned into a black hole. Danica's was the same as well. Demi's monster had multiple faces which probably lines up with her ability to make people see her the way they desire her to be.

As for Michael's situation, the lightning monster could've easily been sort of an offering to show that Michael is worthy of being the 2nd's spawn. Ella told him to only take the pill of the 2nd after he beat the 1st monster. The 1st pill he fed to the guard to summon the Lightning Monster.

While it's true that we don't know all about the infection process. The one's that we've saw has shown that it's usually via them biting you(Angelina and Deryl) or using their powers(MC, Danica, Demi and now Michael) to infect their spawn.

 

[Farhan124]

I mean, the 4th can shapeshift as well. He just inherited more of her powers. The 2nd Trait stuff could be what he got from the 3rd's "Body" stuff with being able to perfectly copy some beings right down to actually becoming them. Shapeshifting could just be their base power.

Alice's power are the same as the Fairy. He summoned a gravity attack that turned into a black hole. Danica's was the same as well. Demi's monster had multiple faces which probably lines up with her ability to make people see her the way they desire her to be.

As for Michael's situation, the lightning monster could've easily been sort of an offering to show that Michael is worthy of being the 2nd's spawn. Ella told him to only take the pill of the 2nd after he beat the 1st monster. The 1st pill he fed to the guard to summon the Lightning Monster.

While it's true that we don't know all about the infection process. The one's that we've saw has shown that it's usually via them biting you(Angelina and Deryl) or using their powers(MC, Danica, Demi and now Michael) to infect their spawn.

If mc wants to have some sort of chance in a equal fight against any of them from now on, he either needs better protection or some way to negate or steal others powers. Hell, a few snipers shot through his armor.
But that's a story for another update.

 

[LightmanP]

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[DrakoGhoul]

If mc wants to have some sort of chance in a equal fight against any of them from now on, he either needs better protection or some way to negate or steal others powers. Hell, a few snipers shot through his armor.
But that's a story for another update.

I mean, Ella begs to differ, no? Her powers are the same as the MC's and she 1v2 Alexis and Clark twice. The first time she was lvl 4. Then she fought them again when they both reached lvl 5 and still gave them trouble while being lvl 4. That could be the difference in their status though.

The MC is basically a better version of Ella, in the shapeshifting department. The only problem with the MC is his lack of being able to utilize his abilities to their full potential. His current evolution could be capping his abilities. Once he evolves, that hurdle should be gone and he should also gain new powers as well.