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Edvin

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I liked one guy's answer/wish of Tiffany having ice powers.
Personally, I would rather give her something that would allow her to control lightning and electricity.
That would make her important enough even at the first stage of evolution.

If I don't count the bombs that Alice can throw (and which aren't very practical if you don't have the opportunity to surprise the enemy) all the "good guys" are melee specialists. If someone could cast electricity and generate an electric field around his/her body that would deal a powerful blow to anyone who came close, he/she would be VERY dangerous enemy.

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Personally, I would rather give her something that would allow her to control lightning and electricity.
That would make her important enough even at the first stage of evolution.

If I don't count the bombs that Alice can throw (and which aren't very practical if you don't have the opportunity to surprise the enemy) all the "good guys" are melee specialists. If someone could cast electricity and generate an electric field around his/her body that would deal a powerful blow to anyone who came close, he/she would be VERY dangerous enemy.

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That would be michael if somehow he didnt get the radiation power or both monster ability got fused in his body(very unlikely)
and i would prefer michael as the lightning wielder than tiffany considering electricity is mc deficiency and the ice queen slut will definitely back stab mc if that makes her closer to killing her daddy
 

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That would be michael if somehow he didnt get the radiation power or both monster ability got fused in his body(very unlikely)
and i would prefer michael as the lightning wielder than tiffany considering electricity is mc deficiency and the ice queen slut will definitely back stab mc if that makes her closer to killing her daddy
We don't exactly know how infection works so far. We only have observations.
It could very well be that Angel Daddy decomposed the lightning monster to infuse Michael with it. Or he gave the guy radiation poisonning because lolroflmao.

But narratively speaking, it would work better for Michael to get lightning powers indead, because he trains with the MC and is far more experienced in fighting than him. For him to get the biggest threat to the MC and teach him to overcome or manage his weakness thanks to that would very much work.

Tiffany is more likely to get something else, I think. We have no hint as to what, however. All we know is that she's likely to turn that against her father.
 

necromater

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Meh tiff is going to make us work she looks like the Kind of wife who dont let the husband laze around an we Need
To take hero down jhon wick style or go up like really up so we are not under the table like Clark said to much red tape
 

Edvin

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But narratively speaking, it would work better for Michael to get lightning powers indead, because he trains with the MC and is far more experienced in fighting than him.
MC was already kill several hundred people and around a dozen monsters.

Michael may have considerable experience in melee combat against normal humans, but he's still a novice when it comes to fighting monsters and superhumans. Some of his experience might have been useful in the beginning, but right now the MC's fighting style is too unique to benefit from his knowledge.

For him to get the biggest threat to the MC and teach him to overcome or manage his weakness thanks to that would very much work.
Electricity prevents MC cell division, so it's not something he can overcome.
The best he can hope for is to create an insulating layer on the surface of his body.
 
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necromater

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Lol now the witcher alice is triss who wants to stand side by side and tiff is yen who wants to own our ass Lol
 
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MC was already kill several hundred people and around a dozen monsters.
I feel like you are exagerating with the kill count on humans. If he had killed hundreds, he wouldn't be up for negociations with the government, he'd be public enemy #1.

Michael may have considerable experience in melee combat against normal humans, but he's still a novice when it comes to fighting monsters and superhumans. Some of his experience might have been useful in the beginning, but right now the MC's fighting style is too unique to benefit from his knowledge.
Michael was trained since he was young. Saying the MC has the leg up on him because he fought different targets is akin to saying a guy who's been in a hundred bar brawl is a better fighter than a profesionnal boxer.
There's a vast difference between what the MC does in order to survive, which is closer to flailing around, and the discipline Michael has, forged throughout over a decade. Sure the MC might have more hands on experiences with monsters and superhumans, but Michael has the basis to progress far faster than the MC on that front (and to be clear, I'm not talking Power and evolution, I'm talking purely on fighting efficiency).

Electricity prevents MC cell division, so it's not something he can overcome.
The best he can hope for is to create an insulating layer on the surface of his body.
It's still something he can learn to manage. For example, fire was way more dangerous for him until he learned to somewhat protect himself. It's not foolproof, but at least he doesn't get it as bad as before.
 

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I feel like you are exagerating with the kill count on humans. If he had killed hundreds, he wouldn't be up for negociations with the government, he'd be public enemy #1.
His kill count during the attack and later escape from the mob headquarters was quite high, but it pales in comparison to the number of guards killed during the attack on Jake's headquarter.

According to my estimate, he has killed roughly 200-300 people to date.

Michael was trained since he was young. Saying the MC has the leg up on him because he fought different targets is akin to saying a guy who's been in a hundred bar brawl is a better fighter than a profesionnal boxer. There's a vast difference between what the MC does in order to survive, which is closer to flailing around, and the discipline Michael has, forged throughout over a decade. Sure the MC might have more hands on experiences with monsters and superhumans, but Michael has the basis to progress far faster than the MC on that front (and to be clear, I'm not talking Power and evolution, I'm talking purely on fighting efficiency).
Michael is a master tactician.
Its preparation is flawless and he can quickly adapt to changes on the battlefield and adjust his fighting style.
Like you said, he has years of experience and specific style of thinking. Unfortunately, this is not something that can be taught. As for the training, it's like you want the minotaur to teach the kraken how to fight. They just have too different bodies, abilities and fighting styles.

Right now, the best combat instructor for MC would be a biology professor...
Seriously, doesn't the school he attends have at least an optional biology class?
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It's still something he can learn to manage. For example, fire was way more dangerous for him until he learned to somewhat protect himself. It's not foolproof, but at least he doesn't get it as bad as before.
The fire only burns on the surface and if it is not too intense MC can regenerate quickly enough.
The electricity directly prevents him from using his abilities. If he can't completely change how his body works on a cellular level, then it's something he'll never have a defense against. If MC was capable of such changes, then he is invincible because there would be no limit to how he can change his body.
 
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His kill count during the attack and later escape from the mob headquarters was quite high, but it pales in comparison to the number of guards killed during the attack on Jake's headquarter.

According to my estimate, he has killed roughly 200-300 people to date.
Somehow I feel like WW probably didn't keep a clear count and just went with feeling over maths. During huge fights, with the adrenaline pumping, it's very easy to lose count and feel like there are way more people than what there actually are. I doubt the MC is that much of a mass murderer yet. Also I doubt the gangsters and the military guys get in the same pile as far as governement counting goes.

Michael is a master tactician.
Its preparation is flawless and he can quickly adapt to changes on the battlefield and adjust his fighting style.
Like you said, he has years of experience and specific style of thinking. Unfortunately, this is not something that can be taught. As for the training, it's like you want the minotaur to teach the kraken how to fight. They just have too different bodies, abilities and fighting styles.

Right now, the best combat instructor for MC would be a biology professor...
Seriously, doesn't the school he attends have at least an optional biology class?
:)
Actually you can teach a bar brawler to actually fight instead of just doing whatever comes to mind at the moment. The MC lacks discipline in his fighting style. I'm not saying Michael can teach him to have the experience he has, I'm saying he can impart this discipline on him. In different terms (if that makes it clearer, english isn't my first language so...) it's the difference between a bar fighter and a martial artist. Both can fight, but one has significantly more thought put into his movements, making him quite more adept.

The fire only burns on the surface and if it is not too intense MC can regenerate quickly enough.
The electricity directly prevents him from using his abilities. If he can't completely change how his body works on a cellular level, then it's something he'll never have a defense against. If MC was capable of such changes, then he is invincible because there would be no limit to how he can change his body.
The MC can form iron now. If you want to talk purely biology, there's no loginc in him, a living being, being capable of spontaneously creating iron and then turning that back into flesh. But he still does. At this point, nothing says he can't end up finding a way to lessen the impact of electricity. Not necessarily get immune to it (that would be pretty boring) but at least manage to make it so he doesn't instantly explodes at the first zap.
 

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Meh the mc gets cocky too much Weight on the body mending he only looks to master his power when he needs to. only the poison is a main survival tool he should study more of them plus tentacle fu slice bite stab punch and what not he can fuck almost any orgánic the matter manipulation he lacks power to use it in combat but he could copy better materials and structures maybe learn Needle trow so he can produce them coat them and thats a shady weapon there. or lets go full quimera it worked to take down Pinky beam ( klaus) . Or Eldrich asshole so aberrant being that make people lost their mind to the Maws of fear Lol
 

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Somehow I feel like WW probably didn't keep a clear count and just went with feeling over maths. During huge fights, with the adrenaline pumping, it's very easy to lose count and feel like there are way more people than what there actually are. I doubt the MC is that much of a mass murderer yet. Also I doubt the gangsters and the military guys get in the same pile as far as governement counting goes.
A human being is still a human being regardless of who they serve ;)

Actually you can teach a bar brawler to actually fight instead of just doing whatever comes to mind at the moment. The MC lacks discipline in his fighting style. I'm not saying Michael can teach him to have the experience he has, I'm saying he can impart this discipline on him. In different terms (if that makes it clearer, english isn't my first language so...) it's the difference between a bar fighter and a martial artist. Both can fight, but one has significantly more thought put into his movements, making him quite more adept.
I understand what you're trying to say, but I don't agree with it. Humans and even superhumans have certain limits to what they can do. Michael knows his limits, is good at determining the limits of others and fights and adjusts his strategy accordingly. MC limits are not unlimited, but they are VERY high. Even he doesn't quite know what he's capable of. His fighting is therefore quite chaotic, as he always tries to find the form that would best suit the given situation and then use it to fight. Discipline is something that MC does not need. It is his chaotic fighting style that makes him unpredictable and thanks to that he won against much stronger opponents.

But I'm definitely not saying that Michael is useless to him.
Due to his tactical mind, he is a wonderful advisor who can help him uncover enemy weaknesses.

The MC can form iron now. If you want to talk purely biology, there's no loginc in him, a living being, being capable of spontaneously creating iron and then turning that back into flesh. But he still does. At this point, nothing says he can't end up finding a way to lessen the impact of electricity. Not necessarily get immune to it (that would be pretty boring) but at least manage to make it so he doesn't instantly explodes at the first zap.
Actually, iron is a substance that is found in most living organisms.
Even humans have iron in their blood.

Anyway, we can no longer apply human logic to MC because his true form is black slime.
He only imitates the form he had when he was still human.
Who knows what the slime is made of...

And as I said, partial protection already exists.
It would be enough for him to create an armor out of something hard and non-conductive. For example, bone armor could work. If he had also used some hard bone, such as rhinoceros horn, it would have been even more effective.
 

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The MC can form iron now. If you want to talk purely biology, there's no loginc in him, a living being, being capable of spontaneously creating iron and then turning that back into flesh. But he still does. At this point, nothing says he can't end up finding a way to lessen the impact of electricity. Not necessarily get immune to it (that would be pretty boring) but at least manage to make it so he doesn't instantly explodes at the first zap.
This actually does get mentioned in one of the training things from two updates ago. The MC turns into rubber, but it doesn't matter. As theorized moooonths ago in either this thread or the discord, one of the outcomes (and the outcome which is true) is

MC shapeshifts
Electricity touches his body
Electricity breaks his shapeshift
He explodes from electricity
 
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This actually does get mentioned in one of the training things from two updates ago. The MC turns into rubber, but it doesn't matter. As theorized moooonths ago in either this thread or the discord, one of the outcomes (and the outcome which is true) is

MC shapeshifts
Electricity touches his body
Electricity breaks his shapeshift
He explodes from electricity
Exactly what I came to comment on after reading the thread. Though it's honestly a stupid weakness when you think of how universally generated electricity is. Is there a minimum charge required?

Does the static electricity from rubbing a balloon make him and the balloon go pop? Does one of his ladies walk through a thunderstorm and get extra frizzy hair, then as she hugs him all we see is a mushroom cloud?
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Is there a minimum charge required?
Yes. small amounts of electricity are trivial to the MC. Also the damage he suffers scales with the quantity of the electricity.

The more electricity, the more mental effort he needs to control it. and if it exceeds a certain amount he explodes.

The stronger the MC is, the more electricity is needed to overwhelm him.
 

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Exactly what I came to comment on after reading the thread. Though it's honestly a stupid weakness when you think of how universally generated electricity is. Is there a minimum charge required?

Does the static electricity from rubbing a balloon make him and the balloon go pop? Does one of his ladies walk through a thunderstorm and get extra frizzy hair, then as she hugs him all we see is a mushroom cloud?
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There's so much in this game, I admit I outright forget and misremember things. I wish I knew where to find it but it seemed to me like the description of the feeling immediately preceding an evolution and the feeling of being hit with electricity was similar, just far more intense and localized with the electricity. Like the electricity was causing the destruction because it was instigating a rapid evolution on only parts of his body which caused it to tear itself apart. I had the notion at one point that if he could survive a large enough charge of electricity that was administered body wide it might literally jumpstart his next evolution. Don't know, just some analgenic theorizing.
 
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