You get +1 to relationship with Nico, so "likes you a lot more" is perhaps overselling it a bit. :v
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Still, some characters go the entire game with only building up just a couple of points in wich case a single point can decide if she will end up grabbing your knob or the doorknob, so i sincerelly would get all the chances i could...
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Yeah, saying that is overselling it a bit, but I still think that you should try to get the honorable win, as RogueEagle said, it may decide whether you romance her or not. Even if you don't care about Nico, I still think that getting that honorable win is pretty nice.
I imagine it might also make a difference if there's some further interactions with Val down the road, provided it's sitting in the cage where MC could potentially visit it, eventually.
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There is a probability that the MC will end up eating or releasing Val at his request depending on how you defeated him, but who knows what is planned for Val or i almost forgot, what is planned for Tiffany that is still locked in the room after her injection.
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No you DON'T challenge Ella if you got the power point, but you CAN if you chose the skill point.
If it's true that Lucy will be taken care of (I think you say that as more of a lie because it's never brought up again) then I'll probably switch to killing him. If you don't kill him though, it is mentioned (by threat of death) that he'll take care of Liz's and Amber's career together through Lucy, so there may even be a potential threesome??? And maybe even meet a fan (Lucy's daughter, hopefully my public opinion doesn't go up).
Just for your last sentence I'm changing my route to beating Valravn's ass.
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Quick ask, is there any difference between the dialogue if you beat Valravn with power or with skill?
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Yeah, just for your first comment i might just change mine to letting Erik live wich is also an insult to him because now he will have to take care of both the girl that sucked the MC's dick at his request and the MC girlfriend that he failed to corrupt, so i might just change that part.
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I don't think there is, the fight works in a way where every right choice gives you +1 [valwin], getting 4 is required to win honorable, and you need 3 to win dishonorably. You can get the +1 [valwin] with either 80 power or 19 skill. I might be wrong though, and there might be a dialogue change if you have more power/more skill, I'll check it out a bit later.
Edit: I was wrong, actually, there is a difference even as early as soon as you and Valravn get on the roof, if you have 19 skill you trade with it almost blow for blow, while if you have less than 19 you are overwhelmed by it's technique. Either way you have to take hits in order to hit Valravn.
You also overpower it with your mace arms if you have over 80 power, so I'm double wrong.
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The "taken care of" flag is only ever used in the game if Erik lives, MC then forces Erik to give Lucy a raise.
That said, Erik and his pals are the only people my otherwise nice MC has zero problems with devouring* They're serial rapists and murderers who show absolutely no remorse, whoever takes over Erik's business and/or inherits his money would have to try really hard to do worse than them.
*) also Bailey, but that's at her own request
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It's possible to get both 19 skill and 80 power, here's what I did:
Go for technique in the Michael fight
The farmer, the scientist, Jake, Erik, basically all male characters that could be killed are killed
Danica is alive
Minyak submitted
Cops killed in the Jake fight
Horn taken
Kenny not eaten
Bailey killed when she ate the black liquid
I'm currently at the infinite cycle before the mall, so you'd probably have a bit more power before the Valravn fight. There's no real reason to do this since you'll be fine either having 80 power or 19 skill. And there's nothing special expect being able to almost trade blow for blow and overpower Valravn at the same time.
Final stats before the mall: 20 corruption, 80 power, 19 skill
270 public opinion
130 goverment opinion
- Sep 1, 2019
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Ok by guide I meant like... A good guy guide. The best playthrough kind of guide(in my opinion) would be one where I am a good person but I still follow a harem route.
You don't really need guide for harem route. You pretty much have to opt out, with quite obvious choices, from getting in pants of any and all fuckable characters.
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You have a very varied rooster of fertile females for making little Eldrich spawns of course as long infertility of the Superman is not a fact in that case just a team to do tentacle play. LOL
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I mean, seeing as the MC first evolution was able to seriously wound Ella and keep her regeneration at bay in the bad ending Ella route, and at his second evolution later stages he could basically fight one at his evolution like it was nothing and fight monsters on their third and is already able to morph other people, i wouldn't be surprised if our boy is powerful enough later on to be able to make himself and other sups fertile again for the sake of his Harem.
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Ella wasn't trying in that fight, when she strattles you; she pretty much kicks your ass and lets you know she can. I think it was more so a surprise you grew faster than anticipated. But make no mistake, this latest update truly showed the difference between an Evolution.
Ella seems to have a time table, she wants you to grow fast but not TOO fast as to skip past her little bubble of guidance. Example being if you reveal your secret weapon (jellyfish). Notice she cares not for huge boots in power, but only when it's puppeted by her. Example also being helping you achieve metal, giving you challenges, knowing about Klaus and seeing how you'd handle it. But the second you do something out of term it's pretty much death. I know not for the reasoning, nor for the guestimated know it all theories behind them. But those are the facts so far.
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The spawn of might looked at the void eyes of the one who once was his brother in arms and asked what have you become? The father of monsters was the answer he was gifted before his mind meld with all the others he once knew so he would not have to behold the dawn of the protean from the husk that was mankind.
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I know about the taken care of flag. Which is used in the game not if Erik lives, but when you actually speak to Lucy. If you speak to Lucy about Erik's location, she pleads for you to let her keep her job to support her sickly daughter. You can say not to worry and that she will be taken care of, but then can go and do the exact opposite by killing Erik. There is no indication of mention that she is EVER well off after that fact.
It is only during sparing Erik, that you kill his "rapist and murdering" associates, and spare ONLY HIM to see that Liz AND Amber are taken care of for their JOINT swimming career, and Lucy is tied into it by getting a raise, and Erik is to only interact with the twins through her. As far as I'm concerned for a harem evil route, this is the best option. As you open up (potential) future scenes with the 3 of them perhaps when we get out of H.E.R.O.
Like I mentioned, should you kill Erik, not only does Liz lose her sponsorship to go "do something else" (probably leading to Amber not wanting to do swimming either), but it also seems that you completely fuck over Lucy and her dying daughter. Not a very good harem Master are you...?
Edit: I would've loved if Liz and Amber found a new sponsor instead, and Lucy was covered by the Mafia, but it doesn't seem like that is the case.
Perhaps "Evil" is too subjective, I'm not a ridiculously unnecessary douche bag, and I don't think the game allows for that kind of narrative anyway (to some extent). I suppose I'm kind of like a less compassionate Eren Jaeger. I have little to no regard for those outside of my immediate circle who get in my way. But I cherish those close (that don't fuck me over; Deryl and Jake). I like Michael, I like the bar fight with Daryl, I even like the little kid at H.E.R.O, and Clark kinda (he stole from me, I'll return the favor if needed). But of course, I also like tits and ass, so females will be added to the harem one way or another (fuckin tsunderes). I was nice to Jake in the beginning, then he turned into a dog that had to be put down. I liked Deryl, but then he had to be childish in a life or death scenario. It's the little things that tick me off, the farmer caught me, I don't know him, he's dead, none will be the wiser. The world is cruel as Ella puts it, and that applies to real life, given a chance to have powers like this; I probably would only care about those close, and screw everyone else around me, but this is a porn game, and there is sex, and with sex comes a harem that must be satisfied.
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Oh yeah, i know the MC was vastly weaker than her, but the fact remains that the MC was on his very early stages of his first evolution and Ella was probably at her third or fourth evolution by that point and the MC was still able to surprise her and restrain her healing factor even if for a bit.
- Jul 13, 2018
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Now that you mention the Ella dead ends again, this update was weird when it came to the MC's powers being revealed. He just casually told Xanthe everything about his memory and "perfect" shapeshifting power and nothing happened. It makes it seem like Ella's reaction early on seem a bit too brutal. While Xanthe thought his abilities were impressive, he wasn't shocked or gave off heavy desire for it, at least on the surface.
It's safe to say the 3rd and/or 4th already know about the MC's secrets after he evolved to lvl 2. That still brings up why Ella tried to get you ate by the 4th the 1st time and then outright killed you the 2nd time. Ella most definitely knows about both of our abilities by now but she hasn't tried to kill us since we reached lvl 2.
Maybe it was like I guessed and it was only useful to kill him prior to his evolution. Once he reached lvl 2, it seemed like they were willing to accept him as their greater spawn since he actually proved his worth and "developed" nicely.
I'll have to continue paying attention to this as the game progress. If it's still relevant, of course.
It's safe to say the 3rd and/or 4th already know about the MC's secrets after he evolved to lvl 2. That still brings up why Ella tried to get you ate by the 4th the 1st time and then outright killed you the 2nd time. Ella most definitely knows about both of our abilities by now but she hasn't tried to kill us since we reached lvl 2.
Maybe it was like I guessed and it was only useful to kill him prior to his evolution. Once he reached lvl 2, it seemed like they were willing to accept him as their greater spawn since he actually proved his worth and "developed" nicely.
I'll have to continue paying attention to this as the game progress. If it's still relevant, of course.