VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[jak1165]

While i agree this game is pretty good one, let's not overdo it, not being the best don't spare you from being very good.
This game is very good, but there others games that are good and even somes that are better.

I'd argue that a few of the really popular games on this site have kind of lost the plot a bit. DrPinkCake had to write an entire extra chapter because people kind of shrugged at the big reveal at the end of Chapter 8

 

[Rickyn227]

I feel like this is entirely subjective, and a disservice to WW's work to speak about, but I'd name The Last Sovereign and Elvensang as competitors in terms of "best written". Maybe Elvensang comes as a runner up, but if you've played through TLS, you know there's nothing that comes close to the gold standard in RPGMaker games, and perhaps the only epic porn story I've ever seen.

Not the internet kind of epic, the Odyssey, Iliad, Divine Comedy, and Lusiads kind of epic.

I'd agree TLS definitely has some good writing that stood out when I played it, especially in comparison to most porn games, and I admit it was the only other game that came to mind as somewhat comparable in terms of that, but, outside of the intro (which was pretty original), it feels pretty cliched and predictable for the most part. The initial concept is great in it's originality, but it felt pretty bog standard in it's plot progression/execution. I think the main issue I have, is that if you remove the porn aspects, TLS's story has been done to death through various forms of media and, in my eyes, that isn't the case with Superhuman.

 

[Deleted member 4058859]

I'd agree TLS definitely has some good writing that stood out when I played it, especially in comparison to most porn games, and I admit it was the only other game that came to mind as somewhat comparable in terms of that, but, outside of the intro (which was pretty original), it feels pretty cliched and predictable for the most part. The initial concept is great in it's originality, but it felt pretty bog standard in it's plot progression/execution. I think the main issue I have, is that if you remove the porn aspects, TLS's story has been done to death through various forms of media and, in my eyes, that isn't the case with Superhuman.

Really? I think TLS starts to shine only once you get past the intro. I have not played many games (including mainstream rpgs) that do large scale battles, politics, management and worldbuilding nearly as well. It is vastly superior to superhuman to me personally even though superhuman is among my top 5 VNs on this site and I think it has some of the best writing in an adult game.

 

[JustADude321]

I'd agree TLS definitely has some good writing that stood out when I played it, especially in comparison to most porn games, and I admit it was the only other game that came to mind as somewhat comparable in terms of that, but, outside of the intro (which was pretty original), it feels pretty cliched and predictable for the most part. The initial concept is great in it's originality, but it felt pretty bog standard in it's plot progression/execution. I think the main issue I have, is that if you remove the porn aspects, TLS's story has been done to death through various forms of media and, in my eyes, that isn't the case with Superhuman.

I'm very surprised you think that. TLS is a junction of so many different aspects, sporting philosophical discussions, well-structured characters, grand scale wars, exploration into the supernatural, gods, demons, and of course, copious amounts of sex, all crammed into a neat and harmonioud package. It's the story of a man's rise from the ashes, consolidating more power through allies, politics, economy, and the eldritch, all in order to bring about a new era of peace for his homeland.

Not many stories are as ambitious, and actually manage to deliver on it, as TLS. Hell, it has political segments that somehow don't bog the story down and are actually fun to figure out and weave around, and so far no other piece of media I know of has managed to get me that interested in the blabbering of rulers xD. We have to thank Sierra for being a massive pervert and writing porn instead of being the next George Martin or some shit.

But again, it feels really weird talking about this in Supernatural's thread.

 

[Dysphorika]

Now I wonder what is "TLS"

 

[monk_56]

Now I wonder what is "TLS"

*The Last Sovereign*

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-last-sovereign-v0-64-3-sierra-lee.616/
Its also free on Steam; So either way knock yourself out- but maybe roll with steam since it abstractly supports the creator.

It is one of the greatest titles out there.

I'm very surprised you think that. TLS is a junction of so many different aspects, sporting philosophical discussions, well-structured characters, grand scale wars, exploration into the supernatural, gods, demons, and of course, copious amounts of sex, all crammed into a neat and harmonioud package. It's the story of a man's rise from the ashes, consolidating more power through allies, politics, economy, and the eldritch, all in order to bring about a new era of peace for his homeland.

Not many stories are as ambitious, and actually manage to deliver on it, as TLS. Hell, it has political segments that somehow don't bog the story down and are actually fun to figure out and weave around, and so far no other piece of media I know of has managed to get me that interested in the blabbering of rulers xD. We have to thank Sierra for being a massive pervert and writing porn instead of being the next George Martin or some shit.

But again, it feels really weird talking about this in Supernatural's thread.

I felt TSL was bogged down and made somewhat predictable by its satirical elements / lack of choice. It is an objectively great game though.

Superhuman has some similarities with it since the MC is some sort of freaky sex-god who can become a tentacle monster at the drop of a hat (Same with Parasite Black).

TLS has a much more serious tone though- so the satire in it is kinda meh. In superhuman the anime satire / 4th wall shit is fucking hilarious.

 

[johnsmith001]

I can contribute an idea, MC can reshape his dick to the most favorite dick for that girl/boy, once inserted. That can be an automated feature of his dick, which he "programms". Surprise reactions can come to both him and the recipients.

 

[Dysphorika]

*The Last Sovereign*

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-last-sovereign-v0-64-3-sierra-lee.616/
Its also free on Steam; So either way knock yourself out- but maybe roll with steam since it abstractly supports the creator.

It is one of the greatest titles out there.



I felt TSL was bogged down and made somewhat predictable by its satirical elements / lack of choice. It is an objectively great game though.

Superhuman has some similarities with it since the MC is some sort of freaky sex-god who can become a tentacle monster at the drop of a hat (Same with Parasite Black).

TLS has a much more serious tone though- so the satire in it is kinda meh. In superhuman the anime satire / 4th wall shit is fucking hilarious.

Thanks

 

[Rickyn227]

Really? I think TLS starts to shine only once you get past the intro. I have not played many games (including mainstream rpgs) that do large scale battles, politics, management and worldbuilding nearly as well. It is vastly superior to superhuman to me personally even though superhuman is among my top 5 VNs on this site and I think it has some of the best writing in an adult game.

I'm very surprised you think that. TLS is a junction of so many different aspects, sporting philosophical discussions, well-structured characters, grand scale wars, exploration into the supernatural, gods, demons, and of course, copious amounts of sex, all crammed into a neat and harmonioud package. It's the story of a man's rise from the ashes, consolidating more power through allies, politics, economy, and the eldritch, all in order to bring about a new era of peace for his homeland.

Not many stories are as ambitious, and actually manage to deliver on it, as TLS. Hell, it has political segments that somehow don't bog the story down and are actually fun to figure out and weave around, and so far no other piece of media I know of has managed to get me that interested in the blabbering of rulers xD. We have to thank Sierra for being a massive pervert and writing porn instead of being the next George Martin or some shit.

But again, it feels really weird talking about this in Supernatural's thread.

Perhaps a fair bit of my unenjoyment is coloured by the MC. Imo making any significantly 'evil' choices just felt out of character and forced for the MC, even after he eventually gets over his initial reluctance to use his abilities. I think it would have been significantly better if he'd have been MORE of a 2 dimensional character, since in a 'choices matter', 'morality system' type of RPG, any forced development of the main character is actually a detriment to the experience in most cases. Since they essentially serve as nothing more than a vessel for the player to inhabit inside of the game, being blank is a boon. It ensures any choice or action taken by the MC is always 'in character', so to speak, because there isn't a pre-established history that dictates or suggests how they should/would act. Pathfinder and Fallout New Vegas are great examples of this.

And while I agree the worldbuilding is pretty extensive in TLS, the issue for me was that worldbuilding that comes through exposition tends to get tedious, boring, and be easily forgotten, and that was the case for TLS. 'Show, don't tell' is a good rule of thumb. Say, for example, in a generic fantasy type novel, there exists discrimination against Elves. As a writer, it would be much more effective to write a scene that actively shows the reader that's the case, rather than through exposition or dialogue. I think the primary issue is that the world building is extensive enough that there's no way to realistically distil that amount of information down to a more easily consumable level without essentially cutting whole swathes, lowering the quality of it. It's why, almost entirely, all of the most expansive and successful fictional universes have multiple entries. While a significant level of worldbuilding can be done, I don't think a fictional universe with a single entry is comparable to any fictional universe with multiple entries, and since the worldbuilding is constructed in multiple parts, it tends to come in far smaller and more palatable doses for the audience.

Imo both of these issues don't exist in Superhuman. The worldbuilding information comes pretty naturally as the plot necessitates it and the MC is enough of a blank slate that none of his actions feel incongruent. It's the difference between choosing how an already established character might react to a situation based on their personality, compared to deciding what or how a character even thinks about a concept.

 

[necromater]

Gotta check it out as i wait the update

 

[tiotiop]

with the new update is there a way to not die in the fight agains crow monster?
Yes, I did all the training possible and even got the horn when the shop owner offers it that increaser power even more,
what do i need to do to win? anyone know?

 

[Ebrietas]

I wonder if the MC impregnate both Minyak and since they combined would it create twins or something?

 

[masonwile]

I mostly just post stat dumps, but things are getting a bit off-topic, so... what does everybody think regarding potential character arcs for the main cast?

• Alice: Kuudere characters. Gotta love 'em, especially given how rare they are. We're already done with an Alice arc, so I think she'll generally be relegated to a major or couple of minor fights per arc a la the usual shounen... Bit of a depressing thought. Would love more Alice. Maybe her powers might get an arc of their own (gravity, a fundamental force, so pretty darn OP), but I doubt it. Maybe a sub-arc at most.
• Deryl: Already has a set plotline as far as we can see. Either fuse with monster Deryl, or kill monster Deryl and potentially gain a power-up. Then turn into a good support. Surprisingly, we haven't seen much from him outside battles. To be honest, not quite satisfied with that; we basically see nothing from him until he suddenly pulls out the perfect object for the job. Mind you, it's plausible given his genius intellect and hand-picked ability. It's just that it feels too much of a Deus Ex Machina in the context of a narrative.
• Michael: Opposing the protagonist to test his power is too obvious and cliche. And a rehash of Deryl vs Protagonist in a way. I hope he has more of an Eowyn arc: truly demonstrates his power to himself, only to realize he can have better goals. Probably an unpopular opinion here though. Or he could be a parallel to the Protagonist when it comes to Corrupt points. Either compete based on their connection to their parent rather than their power (could be funny) or a more emotional arc for the Pure route players. No Michael vs Protagonist though, hopefully. Maybe a serious training bout at most.
• H.E.R.O. Gals: I think Nico might be a superhuman supremacist. I hope she isn't a Corrupt-route only LI. On the other hand, not too fond of, "Purify the evil chick," arcs. Here's hoping WW has something unexpected in store for her. Alexis should be fun.
• Danica & Angelina: (Comparatively) Older women, hubba hubba! Really hope they turn into useful assets (with a plethora of scenes), but given their optional nature, I doubt we'll get impactful arcs for them. Sad.
• Ella: I'm quite surprised to see some players try to paint her as a misunderstood villain. She's clearly evil, no matter her intentions. Doesn't mean we can't like her. My Protagonist is Pure as they come, but still down to have fun with her. Her band are a bonus. She's clearly in cahoots with at least her parents' monster faction, but we don't know how high an echelon she occupies. Probably not that high given the one Dead End. The current newsroom attack is probably her attempt at getting the Protagonist to evolve to level 3. In the long term, she'll probably lead a monster-allied faction that a Pure Protagonist might be able to turn to humanity's side.
• Mia: Meh. Really hope she has a happy route without dating Protagonist. Probably another unpopular opinion.
• Tiffany: By far my most awaited reveal. Hyped to see her powers. If Protagonist ever does go against or take over H.E.R.O., she will probably play a pivotal role. In fact, now that I think about it, Protagonist will probably play a pivotal role in her attempt to usurp H.E.R.O. Their success is irrelevant. And picture it: Tiffany and Alice devilishly grin at each other, then absolutely drain the Protagonist, sexually. Hnngh! ...Okay, maybe that's just my fantasy.
• Bailey: Oh bring back my Bailey to me, to me! ;_;
• Brianna: Police liaison for the Protagonist? At least during the H.E.R.O. arc.

Other characters like Jess (Jared's father's arc?), Tess, the twins, Christy, Emily, etc. will probably be important down the line, but no idea how. Quite a few of them have unused relationship scores. I hope they aren't simply for throwaway lines during the ending...

 

[Deleted member 5561147]

The memory monster is the mommy one right?

 

[necromater]

Nico is a cunt so she fucks everyone not caring of them being súper or normal. Alice best girl yep. we Need to see how W.W goes on with the story is a big cast yes so is kind of hard to keep all people relevant but thats good because this story is getting Dark so dead is gonna be a thing.

 

[TerminusPrime]

The memory monster is the mommy one right?

That's correct.

 

[TerminusPrime]

I need help, im hard locked it would seem with the battle against valvarn. No matter what i choose i lose every time & am game over? How can i beat this guy, I've done every combination and nothing works.

When you're fighting choose "keep your distance", "go all in" and "do not evolve" in order to win the fight.

 

[ScholarOfTheFirstSin]

Nico is a cunt so she fucks everyone not caring of them being súper or normal. Alice best girl yep. we Need to see how W.W goes on with the story is a big cast yes so is kind of hard to keep all people relevant but thats good because this story is getting Dark so dead is gonna be a thing.

Stopped reading at "she fucks everyone"

 

[bebroeater]

I mostly just post stat dumps, but things are getting a bit off-topic, so... what does everybody think regarding potential character arcs for the main cast?

• Alice: Kuudere characters. Gotta love 'em, especially given how rare they are. We're already done with an Alice arc, so I think she'll generally be relegated to a major or couple of minor fights per arc a la the usual shounen... Bit of a depressing thought. Would love more Alice. Maybe her powers might get an arc of their own (gravity, a fundamental force, so pretty darn OP), but I doubt it. Maybe a sub-arc at most.
• Deryl: Already has a set plotline as far as we can see. Either fuse with monster Deryl, or kill monster Deryl and potentially gain a power-up. Then turn into a good support. Surprisingly, we haven't seen much from him outside battles. To be honest, not quite satisfied with that; we basically see nothing from him until he suddenly pulls out the perfect object for the job. Mind you, it's plausible given his genius intellect and hand-picked ability. It's just that it feels too much of a Deus Ex Machina in the context of a narrative.
• Michael: Opposing the protagonist to test his power is too obvious and cliche. And a rehash of Deryl vs Protagonist in a way. I hope he has more of an Eowyn arc: truly demonstrates his power to himself, only to realize he can have better goals. Probably an unpopular opinion here though. Or he could be a parallel to the Protagonist when it comes to Corrupt points. Either compete based on their connection to their parent rather than their power (could be funny) or a more emotional arc for the Pure route players. No Michael vs Protagonist though, hopefully. Maybe a serious training bout at most.
• H.E.R.O. Gals: I think Nico might be a superhuman supremacist. I hope she isn't a Corrupt-route only LI. On the other hand, not too fond of, "Purify the evil chick," arcs. Here's hoping WW has something unexpected in store for her. Alexis should be fun.
• Danica & Angelina: (Comparatively) Older women, hubba hubba! Really hope they turn into useful assets (with a plethora of scenes), but given their optional nature, I doubt we'll get impactful arcs for them. Sad.
• Ella: I'm quite surprised to see some players try to paint her as a misunderstood villain. She's clearly evil, no matter her intentions. Doesn't mean we can't like her. My Protagonist is Pure as they come, but still down to have fun with her. Her band are a bonus. She's clearly in cahoots with at least her parents' monster faction, but we don't know how high an echelon she occupies. Probably not that high given the one Dead End. The current newsroom attack is probably her attempt at getting the Protagonist to evolve to level 3. In the long term, she'll probably lead a monster-allied faction that a Pure Protagonist might be able to turn to humanity's side.
• Mia: Meh. Really hope she has a happy route without dating Protagonist. Probably another unpopular opinion.
• Tiffany: By far my most awaited reveal. Hyped to see her powers. If Protagonist ever does go against or take over H.E.R.O., she will probably play a pivotal role. In fact, now that I think about it, Protagonist will probably play a pivotal role in her attempt to usurp H.E.R.O. Their success is irrelevant. And picture it: Tiffany and Alice devilishly grin at each other, then absolutely drain the Protagonist, sexually. Hnngh! ...Okay, maybe that's just my fantasy.
• Bailey: Oh bring back my Bailey to me, to me! ;_;
• Brianna: Police liaison for the Protagonist? At least during the H.E.R.O. arc.

Other characters like Jess (Jared's father's arc?), Tess, the twins, Christy, Emily, etc. will probably be important down the line, but no idea how. Quite a few of them have unused relationship scores. I hope they aren't simply for throwaway lines during the ending...

I really hope Jake has a huge redemption arc or something, he fucked us over pretty badly so he better make up for it. Other than that I'm excited to see more of Michael and his powers.

 

[bebroeater]

Thanks, it seemed to work even though I'm sure I did it before but now I'm stuck on the talk show guy & what I should answer without him dying & game over.

That's the end of the current version, and the talk show guy dies no matter what you do. You'll need to wait for the new version.