Meh21

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You know. When it comes to the Numbered, I imagine a hypothetical meeting between the 4 "active" ones going something like this.

The 1st: WTF, 4th, my spawn lost to yours! I was so close to ruling the world!

The 2nd: My spawn killed a lightning monster and gave it to me as a gift. That is all...(in Guru's voice from DB Abridged for some reason :KEK: ).

The 3rd: My spawn is a crazy bitch. She won't even answer my calls anymore.

The 4th: .... My spawn wants to impregnate me....

1st, 2nd, and 3rd: .......

Anyway, I'm late but happy new years to everyone. Tried to cutback on porn games. We'll see how long I'll commit to it. :ROFLMAO:
I mean, she sucked his dick. Monsters probably don't give a fuck about human's sexual deviancy.
 

lavilao

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Val negates some elements, not all powers, power to negate powers means it negates all powers, physical included, it basically nullifies all powers, Val miasma is a protection against elements wich means that physical powers still hold...
As for the walls of HERO, that is a material that is not affected by powers, it doesn't nullify powers inside HERO seeing as the MC and poison dude literally released their power inside of HERO.
As for Accelerator and Number 7, they are meme fuel like i said in my comment "meme powers" and "plot armor".
I think val abilities negation comes down to his strengt, ella said to jake that he could not affect those who are way more powerful than him. An memes are the DNA of the soul xD.
 

necromater

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I think val abilities negation comes down to his strengt, ella said to jake that he could not affect those who are way more powerful than him. An memes are the DNA of the soul xD.
That reference is Metal Gear level of EXQUISITE. of fuck now im gonna play the album until the Red Sun XD.
 

Lord Kentus

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The Ella hate never ceases to amuse.

<_< I never really got it to be honest, the power disparity between the MC and her has been so apparent that anything short of her outright murdering the PC which only occurs in one scenario thus far is just the usual teasing and testing.

I would rather trust her then the government organization that wants to conscript any superhuman into it and kill them if they refuse under the mandate of "common good" >_> Like that has never been historically abused.
 

alkeera

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May 1, 2018
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The Ella hate never ceases to amuse.

<_< I never really got it to be honest, the power disparity between the MC and her has been so apparent that anything short of her outright murdering the PC which only occurs in one scenario thus far is just the usual teasing and testing.

I would rather trust her then the government organization that wants to conscript any superhuman into it and kill them if they refuse under the mandate of "common good" >_> Like that has never been historically abused.
Trust no one. Not even yourself if your corruption stat is high.
 

RonaldGrand6969

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Trust no one. Not even yourself if your corruption stat is high.
At least Ella is honest with us. I say that because while she has lied to other people, I don't think there was ever a case where she didn't either TRY to warn us or just not tell us the full truth; but always hinting at more.

Now take H.E.R.O for example; so many god damn variables it's not even funny. While you may have had a heart to heart moment with Ella (end of training), H.E.R.O has NEVER shown it's true colors so far. We've got snippets of Xanthe disregarding human life, Dexter threatening global domination, hell, you're out right killed if you don't join H.E.R.O and they are ready to replace you.

Ella is one person, get to know her, you're fine. H.E.R.O is a council with POWERFUL non council members to boot. So far we've got;

Council:
1. Dexter- Literal richest guy alive AND a politician to boot, of COURSE he has skeleton corruption in his closet.
2. Xanthe- ...
3. Bernhard- Literally refers to humans as humans, comon.
4. Lucifer- Delusional, he seems good, but may I remind you he was the one to burn down the Frat Party I believe, regardless of survivors.

Misc Members:
1. A Necromancer- I'm like 90% sure that's the teaser character if I'm not mistaken, though I could be wrong. REGARDLESS, I'm sure she turns a blind eye to a few civilians in the crossfire for some extra "help". (Plus if you could name me a morally good necromancer...)
2. Nicolette- ...
3. Alexis- Unhinged.
4. Clark- Actually, he's fine.
5. Deus- Literally fed the crow that butched an entire cafe. Plan or no plan, that's still fucked up, how many monster attacks does he predict and keep to himself just to fit his future plans? (His mannerisms also strike me as uncaring)
6. Alice- Head of the FUCKING MAFIA! She literally has her end arc asking whether or not we could love the chick that just nuked a building! (Love her tho obviously)
7. Michael- ...

And that's just the members we KNOW of (minus Zack, nei). Now the politics are also obviously BONKERS. You have walking gods all over the place with no regulations whatso ever. Financial support just for a sign on which obviously boosts the ego of these young impressionable super powered idiots. I know they SAY the helmets do something but, comon, did we see Acid guy, Clothes burning guy? Any of the elite members unbridled rage? I could be over exaggerating, but in a world filled with gods, monsters, and madness; I think a chick tutoring you and running an orphanage should be the LEAST of your trust issues.

SN: I'm obviously not trying to belittle the comment, this was just a justification for best girl.
 

alkeera

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At least Ella is honest with us. I say that because while she has lied to other people, I don't think there was ever a case where she didn't either TRY to warn us or just not tell us the full truth; but always hinting at more.

Now take H.E.R.O for example; so many god damn variables it's not even funny. While you may have had a heart to heart moment with Ella (end of training), H.E.R.O has NEVER shown it's true colors so far. We've got snippets of Xanthe disregarding human life, Dexter threatening global domination, hell, you're out right killed if you don't join H.E.R.O and they are ready to replace you.

Ella is one person, get to know her, you're fine. H.E.R.O is a council with POWERFUL non council members to boot. So far we've got;

Council:
1. Dexter- Literal richest guy alive AND a politician to boot, of COURSE he has skeleton corruption in his closet.
2. Xanthe- ...
3. Bernhard- Literally refers to humans as humans, comon.
4. Lucifer- Delusional, he seems good, but may I remind you he was the one to burn down the Frat Party I believe, regardless of survivors.

Misc Members:
1. A Necromancer- I'm like 90% sure that's the teaser character if I'm not mistaken, though I could be wrong. REGARDLESS, I'm sure she turns a blind eye to a few civilians in the crossfire for some extra "help". (Plus if you could name me a morally good necromancer...)
2. Nicolette- ...
3. Alexis- Unhinged.
4. Clark- Actually, he's fine.
5. Deus- Literally fed the crow that butched an entire cafe. Plan or no plan, that's still fucked up, how many monster attacks does he predict and keep to himself just to fit his future plans? (His mannerisms also strike me as uncaring)
6. Alice- Head of the FUCKING MAFIA! She literally has her end arc asking whether or not we could love the chick that just nuked a building! (Love her tho obviously)
7. Michael- ...

And that's just the members we KNOW of (minus Zack, nei). Now the politics are also obviously BONKERS. You have walking gods all over the place with no regulations whatso ever. Financial support just for a sign on which obviously boosts the ego of these young impressionable super powered idiots. I know they SAY the helmets do something but, comon, did we see Acid guy, Clothes burning guy? Any of the elite members unbridled rage? I could be over exaggerating, but in a world filled with gods, monsters, and madness; I think a chick tutoring you and running an orphanage should be the LEAST of your trust issues.

SN: I'm obviously not trying to belittle the comment, this was just a justification for best girl.
It could be true if Ella was by herself but something is definitely pulling her ropes and we don't know what it wants. She could be honest and cuddly with us for now but in the future? Who knows. In nature some creatures copulate with their mate before killing and eating it.
 

Alandir

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The Ella hate never ceases to amuse.

<_< I never really got it to be honest, the power disparity between the MC and her has been so apparent that anything short of her outright murdering the PC which only occurs in one scenario thus far is just the usual teasing and testing.

I would rather trust her then the government organization that wants to conscript any superhuman into it and kill them if they refuse under the mandate of "common good" >_> Like that has never been historically abused.
"Teasing and Testing" is certainly a way to describe turning multiple of mc's close friends into superhumans and sending them to kill us.
 

necromater

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Aug 21, 2018
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The Ella hate never ceases to amuse.

<_< I never really got it to be honest, the power disparity between the MC and her has been so apparent that anything short of her outright murdering the PC which only occurs in one scenario thus far is just the usual teasing and testing.

I would rather trust her then the government organization that wants to conscript any superhuman into it and kill them if they refuse under the mandate of "common good" >_> Like that has never been historically abused.
Fascist suits them more than Hero ,but yep both sides are evil and the MC and the team are in a pinch. Good thing Alice knows how to keep the MC happy or just horny XD.
 

RonaldGrand6969

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It could be true if Ella was by herself but something is definitely pulling her ropes and we don't know what it wants. She could be honest and cuddly with us for now but in the future? Who knows. In nature some creatures copulate with their mate before killing and eating it.
Except I don't think so, everything points to otherwise as of now. I would've agreed with that in the beginning, she was (and still technically is) a GOD DAMN PSYCHOPATH!

But, once she achieved Lvl 5 status and didn't get what she wanted, it seems that she almost, gave up...no, if she was going to kill us, she would've done it by now just based off of the failure alone. She does still have a plan, but I don't think it's as big of a scale as it used to be. That heart to heart strikes me as genuine, if anything; it's the opposite, and she even hints at the fact that it may be possible that WE "mate with her" (use her to grow) and then kill her.

So that point doesn't really make sense to me, to start off as a two sided character only to reveal her true crazy side, now reverting to a vulnerable state (multiple times mind you), only to revert AGAIN to a conniving bitch? Nah, but that's not to say she isn't capable of killing us, or defending herself, or making big plans. She's obviously got something in the works, but most of it was to obtain Lvl 5, and once she wasn't chosen by the Numbered, she seemed to have detoured the plan to something perhaps more personal, less grand scheme. None of which I don't think target the MC in a specific malicious way, we'll probably be more of a third party.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Jul 13, 2018
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Here we go again with this "Ella's a saint, and isn't objectively evil or manipulative". She has "toyed" with the MC so much that he and his friends could've died. We're also not going to act like she didn't slaughter a middle school full of children and let Valravn loose to kill even more people because she didn't want Hero interfering with her. While this last one is partly Alexis and Clark's fault, Ella is the reason the Minyaks are all over the sewers killing women as well.

Her "tests" are something she forces on the MC. Her having a heart to heart and hinting that she's about to fuck him over isn't some excusable thing. In fact, let's go over it all.

1 - Ella tells you to meet her but tries to get you killed at the Cafe. When you meet her at her apartment later, she pretends she has nothing to do with that and blames the Mafia. Literally, it's her fault and this is when she nearly kills you herself. If you show too much progress, she does outright try to get you killed by Mother. It's a dead end so it doesn't count? Yeah, no that counts just like you guys count the Hero dead ends against them.

2 - She turns Kenny and lets him go to the Frat party with all of your friends present. Prior to that, she tells the MC to "train and get stronger soon". Oh, really? Thanks for the vague hint there. That could've went way worse for the MC. Him overcoming Kenny is no excuse for her nearly getting the MC's bestfriends killed. Wow, thanks Ella for the earlier advice and I should definitely trust you and your motives.

3 - the Klaus event was also manufactured by her or so she claims. It's hard to tell what she did and didn't do so I'll give her the pass for this one. Her killing the MC if you tell her about your 2nd ability for the 2nd time. Even if it's another dead end, it shows you can't trust her with shit lol.

4 - Jake. His manipulation and gaslighting needs no detailing. She turned an innocent guy into ego tripping maniac. All so she could get him to mess with the MC, help her get stuff from Hero and get even more people killed. She revealed our powers to him and painted us in a bad light while also not telling us about him "to be fair to him"(wtf). Let's also not forget that she wanted him to mind fuck Deryl so that he can do her bidding as well.

5 - The Deryl clusterfuck doesn't need saying either or the fact that we now know Ella also might've made Charlie put her spell on us too. A spell we don't know the trigger for but can possibly kill us. She is the reason Deryl is a monster right now. People can try to blame Deryl but Ella had the intention to mind control him and then most likely get him infected while under her control. If not for Mia messing up Jake's imprint, Ella would've definitely forced him to become a Superhuman, if he refused, once he was under her control.

6 - The "Heart to Heart" scenes where she flat out tells the MC she's doing it all for his " own good". Oh, wow, thank you again Ella. Thanks for telling me that everything that happened was your fault and that it's going to keep happening until I get strong enough to do something to you about it. And yeah, it's partially the MC's fault for seeking her out to train as well. He's also to blame for running to her whenever he hits a road block. Hopefully that stops now that we're in Hero.

7 - This last one happened at the end of the current update, so we don't know if she did it but it's Ella so we know she did it. Cole and her other "students" appearing on stage with us and killing that interviewer live. I wouldn't be surprised if her provocative comment to Cole earlier wasn't for this reason. If that's indeed the case, she's now manipulated a lvl 3 character to "toy" with us. Thanks, once again Ella?

As for Hero. Did anyone really think otherwise with a group that hunts monsters and superhumans? Why wouldn't they kill the MC if he refuses to join? They do what they do to progress humanity and stop the Monster threat(as far as we know currently). Even Clark had to accept that this is the reality of Hero.

To finish this up, labelling messed up things done by Ella isn't "hate". This is exactly what she's done in game. She shouldn't be excused for that shit. Just like you don't excuse stuff Hero's done. You can wholeheartedly trust Ella and her intentions to the very end but that doesn't change that what she's done is still messed up. You don't have to hold it against her, of course, but my MC(Main and Corruption) will.

I don't trust Ella and so far Hero hasn't done anything that makes me trust them more or even less. I'm neutral on them(hero) and going to be reaping the benefits for it. Not like either side matter much to my MC. The only person I trust in this game, and you probably already know where this is going, is Mommy 4th. :KEK:
 
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