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the concept of geas predates DnD indeed, but that does not mean it's something totally different....
The geas is a command the victim needs to fulfil, an order to do something.... Cole can't be coughing blood when he attacks Charlie, that's only possible from the Taboo.... The geas put on a person compels him to make an action or die if he does not complete the order...




Of course, that much is clear, but it's not a given, there's more factors... Just like it's not a given a level 2 will always beat a level 1.... What i said was if MC beats Ella in a one on one fight while both of them are level 5, it's not a given either that Ella would even be strong enough to even resist him when he "eats" her. (the nasty version, not the sexy)
I can't imagine her willpower will be that good after losing to MC, their powers are to similar, if her power was that much greater she would not have lost to begin with... And the eating people is pretty much the corruption/power path...

Danica was a level higher than MC and it happened before he fought Jake... There's really no reason to assume Ella will always be stronger, the whole purpose of her turning him is because he might be "the one"... The perfect evolution...
I think the term Geas in the game is being used technically incorrectly. Deryl broke the geas by trying to tell the MC what Ella's plans where, it was meant to prevent an action. Charlie also told Cole she was using the Geas and Taboo parts of her powers to prevent him from hurting monster Deryl.
Ella also has a specific purpose that she made the MC, she doesn't seem to be trying to make him the perfect Evolution. She needs a superhuman that has a specific power and she doesn't want it to be the MC. Whatever she has planned is something that she feels guilty about since she likes the MC, so it's likely going for him to be used as a sacrifice or as the host body to reawaken an ancient powerful monster so it will have a physical form again. Though I think many predictions will be off by a bit since we don't have enough information yet.
Her list of possible superhumans for that purpose were the MC, Jake or the jocks James or Kenny. It was pointed out earlier in the thread that each of them has a common ability for telepathy, which could be what she needs from the MC.
 

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Huh must have missed this details somewhere, well am planning to reply it once the new update comes out
If you ask about a book on Evolution in the library in this update he tells you that you shouldn't be chasing after evolutions, they're not always a good thing. He then says there was one person that had 4 evolutions in 4 days, and that after all that he's stuck wearing a clown costume.
 

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I think the term Geas in the game is being used technically incorrectly. Deryl broke the geas by trying to tell the MC what Ella's plans where, it was meant to prevent an action. Charlie also told Cole she was using the Geas and Taboo parts of her powers to prevent him from hurting monster Deryl.
Ella also has a specific purpose that she made the MC, she doesn't seem to be trying to make him the perfect Evolution. She needs a superhuman that has a specific power and she doesn't want it to be the MC. Whatever she has planned is something that she feels guilty about since she likes the MC, so it's likely going for him to be used as a sacrifice or as the host body to reawaken an ancient powerful monster so it will have a physical form again. Though I think many predictions will be off by a bit since we don't have enough information yet.
Her list of possible superhumans for that purpose were the MC, Jake or the jocks James or Kenny. It was pointed out earlier in the thread that each of them has a common ability for telepathy, which could be what she needs from the MC.
There's also the fact that she tells the MC directly that, while it would be difficult to find someone else and she doesn't want him to fail, he can be replaced.

As for them being host bodies, I also think some proxy stuff might be going down. While it's still speculation, I'm of the thought that the Numbered can't manifest on our plane for too long. Valravn touched on it a bit with the 2nd but it makes sense why we haven't seen the 3rd and 4th since then. Though they're apparently sleeping, according to Ella, while they make their way here from "distance lands" according to Valravn and the 4th(or 3rd) during our dream talk.
 

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Seeing as you can snitch on Ella completely and not die, I think the geass she put on us probably got cancelled out already or is avoidable.
Maybe the geass she puts on us is a weak one? I mean, isn't the reason people are supposed to say something and carve a symbol on their skin to join S.I.N so she can have stronger control over them?
 
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I think the term Geas in the game is being used technically incorrectly. Deryl broke the geas by trying to tell the MC what Ella's plans where, it was meant to prevent an action.
Yeah, the game uses different descriptions for it too, Cole mentions 3 skills possible of which 2 already used.
the 3 are taboo, rule (geas) and vow (promise)... Seems Charlie needs to mark a person and can put the skills on him/her after that so most likely Charlie so far only marked MC when visiting the orphanage...
Another thing these kids say is Valravn is immune to both Charlie's as Zara's skills... This could mean a possible way for MC to break any Taboo/geas/promise from Charlie or the mark from Zara.... He could be able to use memories from his fight against Valravn...


which could be what she needs from the MC.
When Ella asks about MC's skills and you "reveal the extend of your powers" you get the dead end where she tells you MC was perfect from the start ;

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Pretty much MC can copy "memories" of animals (monsters?) and not only apply them to himself but he can combine them too.... A really awesome skill if you at one point can use any defensive or offensive skills from your previous enemies...
 
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Maybe the geass she puts on us is a weak one? I mean, isn't the reason people are supposed to say something and carve a symbol on their skin to join S.I.N so she can have stronger control over them?
I believe the carving marks part involves the other girls power(Zara? I forgot her name) since the MC and the others had to get it removed afterwards. It could be true though about Charlie putting a weaker one on the MC.

We don't exactly know what type Charlie put on us. All they said when that scene occurred was their names and that it "was nice to meet you" when they met at Ella's house. For all we know, Charlie could've cancelled it herself after hanging with Monster Deryl. It could be that we're focusing too much on the verbal part of the command as well since the Cole stuff proved that maybe she doesn't need to do that to put a condition on someone.

I'm not sure, if I'm being honest. Though, whatever Charlie did will most likely be overturned when we evolve to lvl 3. Especially if it's lethal as our regen would most likely get an upgrade to be even more potent.
 

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Yeah, the game uses different descriptions for it too, Cole mentions 3 skills possible of which 2 already used.
the 3 are taboo, rule (geas) and vow (promise)... Seems Charlie needs to mark a person and can put the skills on him/her after that so most likely Charlie so far only marked MC when visiting the orphanage...
Another thing these kids say is Valravn is immune to both Charlie's as Zara's skills... This could mean a possible way for MC to break any Taboo/geas/promise from Charlie or the mark from Zara.... He could be able to use memories from his fight against Valravn...




When Ella asks about MC's skills and you "reveal the extend of your powers" you get the dead end where she tells you MC was perfect from the start ;

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Pretty much MC can copy "memories" of animals (monsters?) and not only apply them to himself but he can combine them too.... A really awesome skill if you at one point can use any defensive or offensive skills from your previous enemies...
When Ella refers to the MC as perfect I'm pretty sure she was referring to him as perfect to be used in the role she needs him for in her project. Not like a perfect superhuman or evolution or anything. She also kills him right afterwards, so being perfect in that regard isn't really a good thing though.
 

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Yeah, the game uses different descriptions for it too, Cole mentions 3 skills possible of which 2 already used.
the 3 are taboo, rule (geas) and vow (promise)... Seems Charlie needs to mark a person and can put the skills on him/her after that so most likely Charlie so far only marked MC when visiting the orphanage...
Another thing these kids say is Valravn is immune to both Charlie's as Zara's skills... This could mean a possible way for MC to break any Taboo/geas/promise from Charlie or the mark from Zara.... He could be able to use memories from his fight against Valravn...




When Ella asks about MC's skills and you "reveal the extend of your powers" you get the dead end where she tells you MC was perfect from the start ;

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Pretty much MC can copy "memories" of animals (monsters?) and not only apply them to himself but he can combine them too.... A really awesome skill if you at one point can use any defensive or offensive skills from your previous enemies...
That's one of the bad endings if I recall correctly
 

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Okay let's all get to the fun speculation, any thoughts on Michael's power's gonna be? I'd imagine it would be something similar to the Hulk or using a form of energy, like something out of Infamous games. With Alice I'm thinking her control over her power would become more potent to the point she could make a blackhole or a powerful singularity explosion, for the MC yeah more like Alex Mercer or James Heller since MC's ability is a clear inspiration of the two. Plus I wanna know about this Fourth stuff more with all that "god and glory" thing.
 

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When Ella refers to the MC as perfect I'm pretty sure she was referring to him as perfect to be used in the role she needs him for in her project. Not like a perfect superhuman or evolution or anything. She also kills him right afterwards, so being perfect in that regard isn't really a good thing though.
She herself states she is an imperfect evolution. For her it may be enough if she can take that power from MC to make her own evolution perfect. Also possible her pact with the monsters forces her to deliver that power to them, we just don't know that.
The game however keeps pointing towards this "perfect evolution" : "Dead End 31: You're not the ultimate lifeform just yet"
Lochan Deus warns you for Ella for a reason, also they're enemies "of a sort", kinda vague if you ask me....
For all we know ALL of the superhumans will at some point have the goal to reach the status of "Ultimate lifeform" or "perfect evolution".. We know "the Lords" have not yet arrived.... Who knows what their goals are? (Valravn, but he wont tell lol)


any thoughts on Michael's power's gonna be?
Energy beams with radiation seems a valid guess. If we see "number 2", maybe some rock/metal protection and flight too...
We just don't see too much else happening to make further assumptions... Maybe his name is an indication too? (like number 1 is "the authority" and Jake can command others)
 
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She herself states she is an imperfect evolution. For her it may be enough if she can take that power from MC to make her own evolution perfect. Also possible her pact with the monsters forces her to deliver that power to them, we just don't know that.
The game however keeps pointing towards this "perfect evolution" : "Dead End 31: You're not the ultimate lifeform just yet"
Lochan Deus warns you for Ella for a reason, also they're enemies "of a sort", kinda vague if you ask me....
For all we know ALL of the superhumans will at some point have the goal to reach the status of "Ultimate lifeform" or "perfect evolution".. We know "the Lords" have not yet arrived.... Who knows what their goals are? (Valravn, but he wont tell lol)

Yeah that's what I also wanna know, or maybe they do have goals but its beyond human understanding, getting into the real of Lovecraftian horror wonder if the MC's power is something similar to nyarlathotep the crawling chaos IT does have the ability to assume forms and is known to use tendrils etc, might be something there. Or not who knows

Also it goes back to what I assume MC got to have a guarded trust between Hero and Ella neither have the best interest of the MC but one, and might be HERO, is more favorable base on what I've seen so far.

The only ones MC can trust are his friends and Harem (?) such as Alice we also include Tiffany in that, I think so since her goal is still to kill off her old man.


Energy beams with radiation seems a valid guess. If we see "number 2", maybe some rock/metal protection and flight too...
We just don't see too much else happening to make further assumptions... Maybe his name is an indication too? (like number 1 is "the authority" and Jake can command others)
Same considering it was the monster that did him in, so it's very possible.
 

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Okay let's all get to the fun speculation, any thoughts on Michael's power's gonna be? I'd imagine it would be something similar to the Hulk or using a form of energy, like something out of Infamous games. With Alice I'm thinking her control over her power would become more potent to the point she could make a blackhole or a powerful singularity explosion, for the MC yeah more like Alex Mercer or James Heller since MC's ability is a clear inspiration of the two. Plus I wanna know about this Fourth stuff more with all that "god and glory" thing.
This shit is going warhammer level of wtf and i love it
 

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Michael sure is gonna go blood for the blood god and his power maybe is combat related something simple like saitama but keeping the hair XD
 
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Pretty sure Michael is solar powered and that's why his extra abilities haven't manifest since he's been being kept underground.

Unrelated question played the new content and went back cuz i heard there were some changes and cuz I didn't have a corrupt save. Used the console to give 20 corruption from the start so I wouldn't have to worry about min maxing it as I went through the game. got at least 80% opportunities for corruptions through the game, ate Jake, and the cross chick, but none of the monster text was ever translated. What gives does it just not work if I console any thing?
 
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Yeah that's what I also wanna know more about these lords, or maybe they do have goals but its beyond human understanding, getting into the real of Lovecraftian horror wonder if the MC's power is something similar to nyarlathotep the crawling chaos IT does have the ability to assume forms and is known to use tendrils etc, might be something there. Or not who knows

Also it goes back to what I assume MC got to have a guarded trust between Hero and Ella neither have the best interest of the MC but one, and might be HERO, is more favorable base on what I've seen so far.

The only ones MC can trust are his friends and Harem (?) such as Alice we also include Tiffany in that, I think so since her goal is still to kill off her old man.
 
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but none of the monster text was ever translated. What gives does it just not work if I console any thing?
Think only a few text are actually readable with high corruption. Some are even readable with zero corruption....
Some text is readable in the part where MC evolves to level 2 but for most texts it just does not seem to matter.

Most importantly the text that's readable with zero corruption is your inner monster speaking (resisting Jakes power)
and later with enough corruption it happens when you're evolving or just evolved....
So mostly it's the spawn (you) understanding it's elders...

Corruption now mostly gives the option to eat characters for more corruption and a few times power.
The most important result of high corruption is being able to submit the Minyak without a fight. (for now anyway)

The checks made for this are visible in the scripts, getting the level does not matter if it's console cheated or not...
 
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Yeah that's what I also wanna know more about these lords, or maybe they do have goals but its beyond human understanding, getting into the real of Lovecraftian horror wonder if the MC's power is something similar to nyarlathotep the crawling chaos IT does have the ability to assume forms and is known to use tendrils etc, might be something there. Or not who knows

Also it goes back to what I assume MC got to have a guarded trust between Hero and Ella neither have the best interest of the MC but one, and might be HERO, is more favorable base on what I've seen so far.

The only ones MC can trust are his friends and Harem (?) such as Alice we also include Tiffany in that, I think so since her goal is still to kill off her old man.
I Named Mine Dagon cus the other names are long and being honest he is a mix of the big ones.so meh
 
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Okay let's all get to the fun speculation, any thoughts on Michael's power's gonna be?
His monster coming from the sky all radiation-y and then zapping the lightning monster with electricity makes me think his power might manifest as some kind of energy absorption one. Maybe it'll start as just nullifying energy attacks, improve to him being able to throw it back, and eventually being able to charge up just from tiny amounts of ambient energy.
 
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She already placed the Geass back when Ella introduced us. DrakoGhoul I just realized that if we took the serum in the present update we might rid ourselves of the geass.




Thanks for the profiles. Also you trying to temp Drako to simp for Dancia when he moved on to a new busty chick who can tear his dick.
Just to be sure we have 5 profiles released so far? (Klaus, Oscar, Kenny, Dancia and finally Leigong)


DrakoGhoul Are you seeing this?
Based on the Origin I'd say we kinda have a smidgen of hint on Micheal power that being energy based along with the fact the Monsters are failed Spawns, but WTH is up with having multiple origins and the connection to the sea and moon?

Could they be the factions of the Numbered Monster?

Also I bet it must really dislike Sand
I checked the code in the beta and it seems that there arent any varaiables being changed if we decide to take the serum only -1 power? which implies that the choice doesnt really matter. Maybe it was changed in the public version?
 
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