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vogelbeest

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Not only can he test his prowess against these monsters of varying lvls but he can also devour some of them.
I'm hoping to see more body modifications based on animals.... With mantis shrimp and gorilla arms, crocodile skin, octopus tentacles, kevlar type skin support from those spiders, we're already pretty badass... But ad a scorpion tail and their venom combined with that of snakes, hornets and killer bee, duck build platypus... Pretty much any poison you can get your hands on... There's plenty more animals we can still copy for their poisons, either defensive (spikes, tendrils) or offensive, and the good thing is your poison combination will attack more of their systems at the same time... And coconut crab claws for those pesky armored opponents... Lets hope we got a shitload of animal samples from Xanthe in that last month of training...

With any memories he is/was able to copy from monsters, there must be a decent number of improvements possible to even further improve himself... And he could have received some special monster samples from Xanthe too...
The third evolution might even give more powers/abilities.... Can't wait to see MC's growth in next update lol...
 

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I'm hoping to see more body modifications based on animals.... With mantis shrimp and gorilla arms, crocodile skin, octopus tentacles, kevlar type skin support from those spiders, we're already pretty badass... But ad a scorpion tail and their venom combined with that of snakes, hornets and killer bee, duck build platypus... Pretty much any poison you can get your hands on... There's plenty more animals we can still copy for their poisons, either defensive (spikes, tendrils) or offensive, and the good thing is your poison combination will attack more of their systems at the same time... And coconut crab claws for those pesky armored opponents... Lets hope we got a shitload of animal samples from Xanthe in that last month of training...

With any memories he is/was able to copy from monsters, there must be a decent number of improvements possible to even further improve himself... And he could have received some special monster samples from Xanthe too...
The third evolution might even give more powers/abilities.... Can't wait to see MC's growth in next update lol...
some variatons on sex scene could be nice too(i miss female mc:cry:)
but at this point im more interested on lore and story plus fight scene rather than the smut
 

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Can we get a summary of the MC's ability and what we think his Level 3 upgrade or new power would be? Along with the lines similar to Prototype? Cause I think I can safely say MC ability is similar to Prototype
 

vogelbeest

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Can we get a summary of the MC's ability and what we think his Level 3 upgrade or new power would be? Along with the lines similar to Prototype? Cause I think I can safely say MC ability is similar to Prototype
Well, he's similar to Barbapapa too, except he's the 18+ warforged version... Alex Mercer in Prototype is a result of some laboratory designed virus, MC is the result of some infection by a monster from another dimension...
They just happen to have a lot similarities, but there's no reason to assume they will follow the same growth pattern or will always get the same powers and abilities... They're both shapeshifters, that alone will result in many similarities and that concept is way older than Prototype... (wendigo, mimic, Zeus... there's many more shapeshifters)

Anyway, his abilities : inreased strength, shapeshifting and forming extra limbs or other bodyparts, memory reading, copy traits from animals and combining them and apply them to himself, forming metal parts on his body and limbs, fast regeneration, an inner voice that's somehow linked to his monster parent or tree... weakness to electricity, however that will most likely result in even faster regeneration in the future... a somewhat autonomically acting tail and increased spinal functionality... Can compress a body to tennis ball size, can change objects and/or their colors....

As for what to expect in terms of abilities gained from his next evolution? That's gonna be hard to predict, we know the potential for that is largely dependent on what powers and abilities his monster parent has (and we know very little) and it's also a matter of what his body and mind will activate... We know Jake gained his powers in a way that his personality affected how his powers manifested... We know Ella's powers are based in her eyes/sight, MC's in his spine, no doubt we will see different results even if both have the same parent...

So my prediction? MC's spine will evolve more autonomy, resulting in MC being able to handle more limbs just by instinct...
MC's weakness to electricity will turn into his biggest strength by being able to directly turn it into regeneration or even direct it into other functions in his favor. (shooting needles or forming "flesh" shields etc etc) And i expect his "copy and apply to himself" skills will grow more and more effectively... We may get some powers based on who we ate (or the eye from shop).

But some teleport skills and shields against mental powers or energy based attacks would be very nice too....
Ella on her fifth evolution gets some aura that at least partly does that, so i guess we'll have to evolve a bit more for that..
Either way, it will be better than the second evolution but we need the fourth and fifth to be even bigger.... ;)
 
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Well, he's similar to Barbapapa too, except he's the 18+ warforged version... Alex Mercer in Prototype is a result of some laboratory designed virus, MC is the result of some infection by a monster from another dimension...
They just happen to have a lot similarities, but there's no reason to assume they will follow the same growth pattern or will always get the same powers and abilities... They're both shapeshifters, that alone will result in many similarities and that concept is way older than Prototype... (wendigo, mimic, Zeus... there's many more shapeshifters)

Anyway, his abilities : inreased strength, shapeshifting and forming extra limbs or other bodyparts, memory reading, copy traits from animals and combining them and apply them to himself, forming metal parts on his body and limbs, fast regeneration, an inner voice that's somehow linked to his monster parent or tree... weakness to electricity, however that will most likely result in even faster regeneration in the future... a somewhat autonomically acting tail and increased spinal functionality... Can compress a body to tennis ball size, can change objects and/or their colors....

As for what to expect in terms of abilities gained from his next evolution? That's gonna be hard to predict, we know the potential for that is largely dependent on what powers and abilities his monster parent has (and we know very little) and it's also a matter of what his body and mind will activate... We know Jake gained his powers in a way that his personality affected how his powers manifested... We know Ella's powers are based in her eyes/sight, MC's in his spine, no doubt we will see different results even if both have the same parent...

So my prediction? MC's spine will evolve more autonomy, resulting in MC being able to handle more limbs just by instinct...
MC's weakness to electricity will turn into his biggest strength by being able to directly turn it into regeneration or even direct it into other functions in his favor. (shooting needles or forming "flesh" shields etc etc) And i expect his "copy and apply to himself" skills will grow more and more effectively... We may get some powers based on who we ate (or the eye from shop).

But some teleport skills and shields against mental powers or energy based attacks would be very nice too....
Ella on her fifth evolution gets some aura that at least partly does that, so i guess we'll have to evolve a bit more for that..
Either way, it will be better than the second evolution but we need the fourth and fifth to be even bigger.... ;)
When the MC was evolving he felt his power concentrated in his spine, both at the tailbone and at the base of his skull.
Jake also felt his power concentrated at the base of his skull before he blacked out during his evolution. Also, Deus said that the MC didn't have Ella's vision, but Ella didn't have the MC's understanding, so I think all of that is foreshadowing an enhanced mental part to the MC's power that is likely to get stronger with the next evolution.
There was already the joke of the MC asking Alice if she saw Power +1 after they trained, which I also think is going to be the base of his enhanced understanding.
I'm really not sure how that's going to further manifest in the story though.
 

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Since we're on this topic. With evolution lvl 3 coming soon-ish(it has to come eventually Dev!), I'll give my own view on how I see it looking and the additions. Keep in mind that I don't really see most of this coming to the game and would be shocked if it did.

So to start. I'll assume, just like his 2nd Evolution, that he has a sort of transformation or mode shift to visualize himself using that lvl of power. The way I see this lvl 3 "form" is him reverting back to his shorter self(slightly taller than when he was human). He'll shorten the distance between his tailbone and head. This will allow his power to flow throughout his body at an even greater accelerated rate. It will also increase his transformation and energy recovery speed as well. At least, that's my headcanon for it.

More into his looks. His hair would be the same(a bit longer) but now are tentacles. Similar to how the 4th looks but more in line with how FMC and Ella's hair looks with poison lacing them. Meanwhile, his tail will gain more sentience and coordinate even better with him during fights. His armor would mostly look the same but more refined.

Now we're at the power section. With his 3rd Evolution, he should now be able to form mental links without touching but it's weaker based on the distance and how strong the target is. He'll also be able to scan and absorb memories from a distance as well. When it comes to shapeshifting, he can now shift down into microscopic lifeforms, like tardigrades, and learn their traits or recreate the most deadly ones for for biological attacks. His regeneration would also now be on par with Ella's(lvl 4).

Finally, to the stuff involving his monster parent. Now I can safely say this ain't happening at all in game but it's cool as shit. That thing would be him linking his mind/memories to his parent and/or their plane to store a copy of himself. As long as he can establish a connection, he can regenerate from complete destruction. It's similar to my previous theory(about using other's memory of him, that he syncs to, to regen) but is more reliant on having a strong connection to his monster parent. This will also allow him to abandon his body completely and reform at any place in his recent memories. Kind of like how the 3rd and 4th turned to goo and disappeared after turning the MC.

That's how I see MC's Evolution lvl 3 being. I think it'll focus more on the memory aspect more than his shapeshifting. Not that it's going to actually happen, mind you. It's just what I hypothetical think his lvl 3 traits and additions could be. I really do need to go touch some grass but this memory stuff just reminded me of something else. I'll make a post about it later.
 

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I think it'll focus more on the memory aspect more than his shapeshifting.
If he gets any power based on the people he ate, there are strong indications they're going to be mind control or influence...
You can eat Kenny ; Kenny spits oil to create "soldiers", we know from Bailey she got telepathic orders from Kenny...
You can eat Jake ; Jake's powers speak for themselves... You can eat Calvin the researcher at HERO ; "Calvin's area of research being into monster thought patterns and psychology." You can kill Demi, but you don't eat her/his memories, weird enough these powers are in the mental/influence area too, so it would fit with the others...

You can eat the 4 thugs in the cafe ; thug memories, maybe useful for your work with Alice but otherwise unknown..
You can eat Eric and his 2 henchman, but besides being manipulative crooks they don't seem to give any specific knowledge. (enough to finish your plan, but that's most likely related to helping out Liz and possibly Lucy)
You can eat AB, but you're to tired to even process the content, you just store his knowledge in case you ever need it...
You can kill Nikki, but no mention of gaining any memories, you just kill, compress the body and trash it...
Just corrupted people, besides more corruption the only thing i see coming from this is decreased morals...
Corruption level is important for submitting monsters, that alone can be valuable... Downside being your tail, that thing might turn into the next serial killer just by itself...

You can eat the farmer, but since you already ate his herd you only are about to vomit, no info on any knowledge gained.
You can eat the milkmonster ; no mention of memories gained, but the milk Angelina produces regenerates/heals...
There's a connection between farmers and milk.... But besides starting a career in monster dairy farms, there's no obvious benefit from that. But again they increase your corruption....

And finally you can eat Christie ; dead end though, so that's definitely useless in terms of gaining powers...

If we can eat Deryl in the future, that might fit in as well, but more in terms of controlling summons, something Kenny's powers already offer, but Deryl getting 4 heads so 4 brains, might indicate greater autonomy for your "summons" or splitting yourself.. Charly and Zara would fit a possible mental power gained too, if we ever get the option to eat them...
 
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This will also allow him to abandon his body completely and reform at any place in his recent memories. Kind of like how the 3rd and 4th turned to goo and disappeared after turning the MC.
Ella "Haha, as if I could be killed so easily. You could vaporize my body and I'd still survive if there was even the slightest trace of me remaining."

From the dead end after your first fight if you didn't train : (you're on your first evolution here, lol)

Female "Ugh. Call Malik will you? Tell him to come over here and torch the remains. This guy had some of the best regenerative powers I've ever seen, he was definitely infected by an S class."
Female "Who knows, he might be able to come back from even this."

You "(Ugh. Where am I? What happened?)"
You "(W-what's this heat, I-)"
"A scorching inferno engulfs my helpless form, erasing me from existence, leaving no trace of my flesh and blood behind."

Seems liquifying like the monsters did after your infection, and you did during your fight with Valravn is the basis of the shapeshifting ability, once infected you start "melting"... However cutting of your head when captured by Klaus, or surviving being cut in half by Klaus, is due to your regenerative powers, if we look at Ella we see the same ; only a small part needs to survive to regenerate, it can be liquid or in Ella's case just vapor...
 
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If he gets any power based on the people he ate, there are strong indications they're going to be mind control or influence...
You can eat Kenny ; Kenny spits oil to create "soldiers", we know from Bailey she got telepathic orders from Kenny...
You can eat Jake ; Jake's powers speak for themselves... You can eat Calvin the researcher at HERO ; "Calvin's area of research being into monster thought patterns and psychology." You can kill Demi, but you don't eat her/his memories, weird enough these powers are in the mental/influence area too, so it would fit with the others...

You can eat the 4 thugs in the cafe ; thug memories, maybe useful for your work with Alice but otherwise unknown..
You can eat Eric and his 2 henchman, but besides being manipulative crooks they don't seem to give any specific knowledge. (enough to finish your plan, but that's most likely related to helping out Liz and possibly Lucy)
You can eat AB, but you're to tired to even process the content, you just store his knowledge in case you ever need it...
You can kill Nikki, but no mention of gaining any memories, you just kill, compress the body and trash it...
Just corrupted people, besides more corruption the only thing i see coming from this is decreased morals...
Corruption level is important for submitting monsters, that alone can be valuable... Downside being your tail, that thing might turn into the next serial killer just by itself...

You can eat the farmer, but since you already ate his herd you only are about to vomit, no info on any knowledge gained.
You can eat the milkmonster ; no mention of memories gained, but the milk Angelina produces regenerates/heals...
There's a connection between farmers and milk.... But besides starting a career in monster dairy farms, there's no obvious benefit from that. But again they increase your corruption....

And finally you can eat Christie ; dead end though, so that's definitely useless in terms of gaining powers...

If we can eat Deryl in the future, that might fit in as well, but more in terms of controlling summons, something Kenny's powers already offer, but Deryl getting 4 heads so 4 brains, might indicate greater autonomy for your "summons" or splitting yourself.. Charly and Zara would fit a possible mental power gained too, if we ever get the option to eat them...
Ella "Haha, as if I could be killed so easily. You could vaporize my body and I'd still survive if there was even the slightest trace of me remaining."

From the dead end after your first fight if you didn't train : (you're on your first evolution here, lol)

Female "Ugh. Call Malik will you? Tell him to come over here and torch the remains. This guy had some of the best regenerative powers I've ever seen, he was definitely infected by an S class."
Female "Who knows, he might be able to come back from even this."

You "(Ugh. Where am I? What happened?)"
You "(W-what's this heat, I-)"
"A scorching inferno engulfs my helpless form, erasing me from existence, leaving no trace of my flesh and blood behind."

Seems liquifying like the monsters did after your infection, and you did during your fight with Valravn is the basis of the shapeshifting ability, once infected you start "melting"... However cutting of your head when captured by Klaus, or surviving being cut in half by Klaus, is due to your regenerative powers, if we look at Ella we see the same ; only a small part needs to survive to regenerate, it can be liquid or in Ella's case just vapor...
???

Keep in mind that I don't really see most of this coming to the game and would be shocked if it did.
 

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Wonder would the next update emphasize more on the corruption level like depending on your corruption level on how your power becomes more stronger but with caveats like you become more and more evil or bad, maybe unhinged like what we saw in one of the bad ends

Though I'm hoping like a balance between good and corrupt like certain choice its better to kill of and consume the person for the power etc, thoughts?
 

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Wow, I've been reading alot of the comments on this thread and realized how much of the story I either missed or did not understand. As I want to have a better understanding of the lore, I have some questions I hope others can answer:

1) I was under the impression that you were infected by both the 3rd and 4th, but reading through comments it seems to be one or the other. The ability you get (shapeshifting) doesn't change no matter which monster infects you, so does that mean both the 3rd and 4th have the same power?

2) Could someone tell me the point where the Numbered monsters are described as being 12 in number?

3) What exactly are the pieces Ella is collecting, and what is their purpose?
 

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Wow, I've been reading alot of the comments on this thread and realized how much of the story I either missed or did not understand. As I want to have a better understanding of the lore, I have some questions I hope others can answer:

1) I was under the impression that you were infected by both the 3rd and 4th, but reading through comments it seems to be one or the other. The ability you get (shapeshifting) doesn't change no matter which monster infects you, so does that mean both the 3rd and 4th have the same power?

2) Could someone tell me the point where the Numbered monsters are described as being 12 in number?

3) What exactly are the pieces Ella is collecting, and what is their purpose?
1) You get two aspects of the power of the 3rd or 4th. Their shapeshifting power and their memory reading power. Both of them are shown to be capable of using each of those powers when they infect you. As far as we've seen the 4th is a stronger mind reader than the 3rd, but we haven't witnessed any other differences between the two other than their appearance yet in the story.
Valravyn calls the 3rd the Body and the 4th the Memory, so there are implied differences between them, but nothing that's been shown so far to further differentiate between them.

2) I don't remember the exact quote, but Alice's monster parent the Blue Fairy tells you a little bit when it talks to you after the car crash.
Edit: I might have misremembered this. It was either there or when the MC had the vision when they were evolving that made reference to the 12 numbered.

3) They seem to be fossilized pieces of an ancient monster, but the last update showed that Deryl's Monster Form was able to make an effigy to replace one out of other objects. We don't know what purpose Ella has for collecting them yet.
 
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Wonder would the next update emphasize more on the corruption level like depending on your corruption level on how your power becomes more stronger but with caveats like you become more and more evil or bad, maybe unhinged like what we saw in one of the bad ends

Though I'm hoping like a balance between good and corrupt like certain choice its better to kill of and consume the person for the power etc, thoughts?
More corruption will most likely lead to your tail acting by itself and more aggressively too. Also you'll likely have more trouble to prevent your tentacles eating people. But you'll get more chances to make monsters submit to you as well...
Corruption decreases your humanity, it means your instincts will decide your actions instead of your reasoning...

I don't know if it necessarily means zero corruption is "good" or that corruption means "evil".. Full corruption can only be achieved by committing evil acts, but i don't think every person you can eat/kill now is an evil act by itself...
Eating Kenny gives corruption, killing Kenny doesn't. Eating the milkmonster gives corruption, dumping it's body doesn't.
Bailey even wants you to eat her... And i can understand Jake, but only to a certain point, i really don't see killing him as an evil act by itself. Same for Danica, Eric, AB, there's a certain feeling of justice killing them, but if it's worth it in the end?

The corruption path will lead to you becoming a monster... The zero corruption path will be that of a zealot, but you'll keep your humanity... The path of you acting like the judge will be somewhere in between and might actually be the most interesting, you're not bound to bloodlust and not restricted by honor and being forgiving at against your feeling of justice...
I have 3 saves ; full corruption, zero corruption and one pragmatic. (eat for +power or possible future abilities only)

Possibly eating certain people will give some abilities, same as high corruption, but the shop eye could give abilities too.
The difference in power right now is not that big, but in the endgame it could be huge, but on the zero corruption path you can rely on allies, on the full corruption path you most likely ate them all... But i hope next update makes things more clear.
 

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More corruption will most likely lead to your tail acting by itself and more aggressively too. Also you'll likely have more trouble to prevent your tentacles eating people. But you'll get more chances to make monsters submit to you as well...
Corruption decreases your humanity, it means your instincts will decide your actions instead of your reasoning...

I don't know if it necessarily means zero corruption is "good" or that corruption means "evil".. Full corruption can only be achieved by committing evil acts, but i don't think every person you can eat/kill now is an evil act by itself...
Eating Kenny gives corruption, killing Kenny doesn't. Eating the milkmonster gives corruption, dumping it's body doesn't.
Bailey even wants you to eat her... And i can understand Jake, but only to a certain point, i really don't see killing him as an evil act by itself. Same for Danica, Eric, AB, there's a certain feeling of justice killing them, but if it's worth it in the end?

The corruption path will lead to you becoming a monster... The zero corruption path will be that of a zealot, but you'll keep your humanity... The path of you acting like the judge will be somewhere in between and might actually be the most interesting, you're not bound to bloodlust and not restricted by honor and being forgiving at against your feeling of justice...
I have 3 saves ; full corruption, zero corruption and one pragmatic. (eat for +power or possible future abilities only)

Possibly eating certain people will give some abilities, same as high corruption, but the shop eye could give abilities too.
The difference in power right now is not that big, but in the endgame it could be huge, but on the zero corruption path you can rely on allies, on the full corruption path you most likely ate them all... But i hope next update makes things more clear.
The game keeps track of a hidden morality stat as well as your corruption to determine if you're good or evil, so it could be a bit more complicated than just your corruption dictating your actions. You might be more instinctive, but if you have high morality you might still commit more good acts than evil acts since that's the basic nature of your character.
 

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1) You get two aspects of the power of the 3rd or 4th. Their shapeshifting power and their memory reading power. Both of them are shown to be capable of using each of those powers when they infect you. As far as we've seen the 4th is a stronger mind reader than the 3rd, but we haven't witnessed any other differences between the two other than their appearance yet in the story.
Valravyn calls the 3rd the Body and the 4th the Memory, so there are implied differences between them, but nothing that's been shown so far to further differentiate between them.

2) I don't remember the exact quote, but Alice's monster parent the Blue Fairy tells you a little bit when it talks to you after the car crash.
Edit: I might have misremembered this. It was either there or when the MC had the vision when they were evolving that made reference to the 12 numbered.

3) They seem to be fossilized pieces of an ancient monster, but the last update showed that Deryl's Monster Form was able to make an effigy to replace one out of other objects. We don't know what purpose Ella has for collecting them yet.
Ok, so it seems no matter who infects you (3rd or 4th) you do get aspects of both their power, alright then. And I'm glad we're unsure about the pieces then, I thought I had missed some crucial info about them.
 
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