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Nah she's a great villian and all but as soon as I get the chance i'm gettin her outta here.
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I don't understand why people say Ella is misunderstood and complex.
From the very first moment in the game, she has tried to kill you, she has fucked over multiple friends of yours, has released monsters that have killed countless people, has converted hundreds of people into deformed monsters but mfs will ignore that because she had sex with you a couple of times. I have a feeling that half of you guys will accept if a girl offers you sex if she can stab you 10 times afterwards with a knife, and then argue that she had a reason for that if you survived.
From the very first moment in the game, she has tried to kill you, she has fucked over multiple friends of yours, has released monsters that have killed countless people, has converted hundreds of people into deformed monsters but mfs will ignore that because she had sex with you a couple of times. I have a feeling that half of you guys will accept if a girl offers you sex if she can stab you 10 times afterwards with a knife, and then argue that she had a reason for that if you survived.
- Nov 22, 2020
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I have no words to describe just how fucking horny I am for this update, and it has nothing to do with the girls or sex.
- Jul 13, 2018
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Speaking for myself, it would be hypocritical for my MCs to hold some of that against her when I'm doing terrible shit myself, like slaughtering thousands of police officers, except for my 0 corruption MC. She's on thin ice but she's my woman so my MCs tries to hold back. That said, if anyone has seen my rants and posts on Ella in the past, they know that I'm well aware of Ella's behavior and do hold the stuff she aimed at me and my friends against her. My MC has a thing for this though and it applies to all characters. It's a 3 line rule. If you cross all 3 or the same ones too many times then we're enemies until one of us die.
Those 3 lines are:
- Trying to kill me
- Trying to mess with my friends
- Trying to mess with my women
It's simple and straight to the point. So far, Ella crossed two of those, the first and second. One more and our relationship is done forever. Jake and Cole crossed all 3 so they have to die. Ella hasn't touched any of our women yet or threatened to kill them, like Cole, but as soon as she does, that's it. I don't care what her intentions are or how valid her reasons could be. That's the end of the line on all of my playthroughs.
You might say that I should be against her already because of the Kenny thing, which had our friends and women, but that was partly on Kenny and before Ella and the MC got in their relationship. Yes Ella let him go there but it's split between them and I killed him for it. That said, I'm on a mission to slaughter her students. Once I get my get back, then it's all in Ella's court from there. Hell, actually, if she messes with anymore of my friends, that's probably enough for me to end our relationship, thinking about it. Depending on the severity, I will kill her.
It's actually why Danica is alive and I'm not hostile against Deryl. They kept it between us and since I came out on top, all was forgiven. It's also why I don't have a strike against Nico. While she did leave us hanging with Valravn, she made up for it against Cole and saved our women too, even if that wasn't her intention.
That's how I manage my interactions with characters. I can forgive you for messing with me but when it bleeds into messing with my harem and friends, that's it. My Murderhobo MC doesn't really care though, that bum will kill you for even looking at him wrong.
- Aug 21, 2018
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yessyesssss let the hate boil that cunt has to go along a few others i would not care if she was just a huge pain but she is gonna be a problem in the long way she is not like alice who is our mate or tiff who is just pragmatic her plan includes our downfall so yes fuck you goth cunt. Jake is a danger yes so i second the motion to turn him into her you know for reasons XD
She can be both an unrepentant villain *and* misunderstood/complex. And she never "tries" to kill you. She constantly puts potentially lethal obstacles in your path, but not in the hope if them killing you. She sincerely wants you to overcome these "challenges" but won't lift a finger to save if you aren't passing her little tests. If at any point she actually wants you dead she just kills you. Very easily. In more then one bad end.
Ella's atrocities are not random. She is working towards some purpose which she clearly considers worth sacrificing almost anything, making it incredibly difficult to truly judge her while we remain ignorant of her agenda. She is corrupting dozens and slaughtering thousands, ruthlessly manipulating almost everyone around her but is it for her own benefit or what she percieves as a greater good?
We get to see her in moments when she is alone and even hear her thoughts, so unless there is some meta aspect where she knows she is in a game she has no one to perform for and is not being manipulative. In those moments, we see how much she despises some of her "students" like Jake while actually liking others like the MC and wishing that it didn't have to be him.
So whatever purpose she is preparing a Superhuman for, it is likely unpleasant for the person. More importantly, Ella is willing to do all this to give power to people some of whom she detests, even including power over her, while alienating those same people and giving them reasons to hate her. Does she consider her "work" so necessary that she is willing to sacrifice her autonomy and dignity or does she simply fetishize power to such a degree that she is willing to create her own doom? We don't know. Just like we don't know whether her orphanage is a sincere attempt to help other kids with nothing or just a way to gain willing test subjects and pawns no one else will miss.
Every time we learn something about Ella, we are almost immediately given multiple interpretations for what we learn. She is a masterclass in ambiguity and for someone like me who rates "interesting" well above "morality" she makes for a top tier waifu.
EDIT: Does anybody else think Ella is directly responsible for MC's mothers death and his scars?
- Jan 9, 2021
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Not totally sure about that, but it's a possible theory. I guess it's possible Ella killed MC's parents and even took his father's identity. Both the father and Ella have a history of disappearing for months and when MC meets Ella for the first time she greets him by his name like it's her standard behavior. She's a shapeshifter so that supports the possibility and she says something like not hoping MC is the one... However there's also mention of Daryl being on her radar before MC so it could be Ella has another alter ego close to both Daryl and MC, (close enough to automatically address MC by his name).
No idea if Ella is directly responsible for MC's scars/eyes incident, several monsters only eat certain organs, the mother could have been infected because of Ella and Ella just had to intervene... But she knows MC used to wear bandages because of that incident so that means she either has access to his memories or she was there, or got info from the people who were. But it means there is the possibility Ella has been monitoring MC for a long time and really close to him...
- Oct 1, 2018
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I must admit, that Ella is one of the most well-written antagonist characters, I've never seen such a well-written character in these VNs. And I'm really curious what truth she wants to tell the MC when he reaches Level 5 evolution, and why she's turning half the world into Superhuman. Regardless, on my good BOI route, I'll probably devour her, putting an end to this nasty cunt.
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- Nov 22, 2020
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The idea of Ella possibly being our friend because of shapeshifting is new to me, and it's unsettling. Ella was on her 4th evolution when MC met her, and MC was just another normal human so it's more than likely that's how she knows what she knows because she accessed MC's memory. But Ella being MC's dad, well that's just gonna make me second guess everything from now on, until we meet MC's dad later and confirm if he is another human or not. What if it was Ella who got MC into that school, so that MC could make connections with Alice and Tiffany and Michael and H.E.R.O., also it's unrelated to that but who the fuck is the Shopkeeper and why is nobody asking any questions about him?
Is he the actually the devil? Because he has connections to Charlie, so that must mean he at least knows about Ella too. He took a liking to MC as well, just who the fuck is he and what is he
- Jul 23, 2020
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- Oct 1, 2018
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Man, I wouldn't be surprised by that. after all, any shit that happens in this game has Ella's rotten finger
- Aug 21, 2018
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All of you ella Simps would you still defend her if she was a he? O_O maybe some of you would want to clap those goth man cheeks but almost everyone would want to murder that ass same with nico and dani if they had a dick put them on the assholes list Next to jared . Ok lets make a kill list. Mine is; cole,Dexter,bramon,jared and his dad, klaus parents, the twins mom, and many more boy i have a problem it is a long list.XD
- Jan 9, 2021
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Well, MC used to work for him, but he always seems to call MC "Charlie"... The shopkeeper could be another alter ego of Ella, but it's unlikely since he is always in the shop, well, as far we know, but he doesn't seem to disappear for months...
It would be nearly impossible for Ella to do what she does and fill the role of shopkeeper in between her activities...
Dunno if he's a monster or a superhuman or even something else... He's not of this world but hard to place...
- Oct 14, 2019
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W.W has gone above my exceptions and have blue balled us harder than i could have possibly imagine. I will now go on a two week nap as a defense mechanism against this looong wait. I wish you all the best of luck
- Jun 3, 2017
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Ella is complex because her actions can be interpreted in many ways and we don't know her ultimate goal.
I think it's pretty clear that she's not some good samaritan, but can we really categorize her as a villain?
Take for example Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars (book version).
Or Revan, if you're more of a gamer than a reader.
At first glance, they were cruel conquerors and dictators who killed millions of people.
But they both wanted practically the same thing.
A catastrophe of enormous proportions was approaching, and unless something was done, virtually all life in the entire galaxy could be destroyed. The leaders of the planets were disunited, corrupt, and motivated by self-interest. The republic was not united and democracy worked too slowly and unreliably. The galaxy needed to be united, by force if it had to be, and a capable leader who could make quick and effective decisions needed to be put at the helm. That was the only way to have hope of survival. Both were actually martyrs, willing to take on the mantle of a cruel dictator just so they could save everyone.
For the same reason, I refuse to classify Ella as a villain.
We don't have enough information for that. We still don't know what her goal is. We know that she has no problem killing people, but we also know that she doesn't kill for no reason and doesn't cause more suffering than she has to. Can such behavior be justified by the nobility of her goal? Time will tell...
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Last post before the game comes out, which will be in about a week. Sorry for the delay, the days just fly by when I'm working on this thing. Over a thousand CGs in just the main battle, I swear I must be getting up there with the Daz games now, how many do they release with their updates? I don't even know. Anyway, lets just hope quantity also means quality, yeah? Anyway, see you in about a week
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Last post before the game comes out, which will be in about a week. Sorry for the delay, the days just fly by when I'm working on this thing. Over a thousand CGs in just the main battle, I swear I must be getting up there with the Daz games now, how many do they release with their updates? I don't even know. Anyway, lets just hope quantity also means quality, yeah? Anyway, see you in about a week
- Oct 14, 2019
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This just mean that the game has the optional date of coming out on mother's day may 14Here's the new patreon post:
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Last post before the game comes out, which will be in about a week. Sorry for the delay, the days just fly by when I'm working on this thing. Over a thousand CGs in just the main battle, I swear I must be getting up there with the Daz games now, how many do they release with their updates? I don't even know. Anyway, lets just hope quantity also means quality, yeah? Anyway, see you in about a week
- Nov 8, 2020
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is that deryl?Here's the new patreon post:
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Last post before the game comes out, which will be in about a week. Sorry for the delay, the days just fly by when I'm working on this thing. Over a thousand CGs in just the main battle, I swear I must be getting up there with the Daz games now, how many do they release with their updates? I don't even know. Anyway, lets just hope quantity also means quality, yeah? Anyway, see you in about a week